It seems we have begun negotiations with two players now. Is it possible that Ireland begins negotiations with three players with no intention of signing any of them before draft day? My thinking is that Ireland may just want to get as close as possible to agreeing in principle with a few players and leave the door open for a trade. If push comes to shove and you have to make the pick at #1, you have already hammered out the details of a contract and could have him signed much quicker than usual. Final question being, Is it possible to negotiate a contract with a player and still not have him signed before draft day? It's a little absurd but it's a slow day. I'm bored give me a break.....
Agreed...He's doing his 'due diligence' with the top guys. I'm sure that, whether it becomes public or not, he'll be negotiating with Chris Long and Dorsey. This way, when the time comes that we're on the clock, we're ready...he'll have the card made out and ready to run up to the commish, as time expires on that pick... Is he trying to use one against the other to get the best deal...absolutely. What we have going for us is that no matter what, whoever we sign will get the best deal...once that pick is signed the slotting can begin, but whoever it is that we don't choose, won't be getting the same money as the one we do choose...
When you stop to think about it, I think negotiating with the players now is a win win for the phins. One you get a leg up on negotiations. Two you still have everyone confused to as who you will take, especially when you do it with more then one player. Three you could possibly get your potential picks to move down in a price. By giving yourself time you give yourself the ability to start a war for whoever wants to join your program and be the first pick which in turn can lead to more leverage. Of course this assumes players care about what number they are chosen at.
I think it's smart, however does anybody think it could potentially backfire if we do in fact trade down a couple slots but then end up selecting a player we had negotiated with? Could he not then argue, hey, you were willing to pay me this at #1, why not now?
It is very smart and could be also be very profitable if certain teams think that the Dolphins will sign their guy.. Marino1983
Naw I wouldn't. Everyone knows about the slotting. Agents argue about the slotting. In the end, there's a slot, and you work your contract in between there.
Arent we negotiating with both Longs and Gholston at the moment? I think we just like multiple people and we'll take which one signs the best deal for our cap situation. My guess is we've accepted that a trade down isnt likely.
i think it is a smart move by the fins to do this it opens up multiple possibilities and it also allows them to make sure the pick is in camp on time
If you think about it, actually selecting a player at #1 overall costs you a huge amount of leverage in any negotiations. Right up until that moment, the guy you're negotiating with could end up getting passed up and fall to 2nd, 3rd, 4th or farther. A bad deal for #1 overall beats a great deal for #3 any day, so there's an incentive for him to take a subpar deal and lock up that top spot. Once you actually pick him #1, he's free to hold out for the best possible deal.