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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by RickyBobby, Mar 17, 2010.

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  1. RickyBobby

    RickyBobby VIP DIY

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    Is there a Spiller bandwagon?

    I saw people on thephinsider writing about Spiiler being a good option. This was based upon the Doplhins being able to develop our WR or acquiring one later, but mainly on the fear of the Ronnie and Ricky situation in the future.

    For the record I think this is crazy
     
  2. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    I think Spiller is going to be a hell of a player. I also know we have some holes that we need to fill before we can become 'kiget' contenders. So here is my thinking on him. If when we pick he is clearly the best player on our board and we aren't able to trade down and pick up some picks then you take him. Reaching for need can get you into trouble.

    However at #12 there should be some pretty good options on the board so I just don't see it happening.
     
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  3. Pariah

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    If we had addressed more of our defensive holes in free agency (or if we do), I wouldn't be upset with Spiller as he adds a style of back with youth we really don't have.

    But without a FS, NT, and OLB I would be shocked if we snagged Spiller.
     
  4. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    I think the Spiller bandwagon is just a natural reaction to watching this video:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxkNT9IxEu8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxkNT9IxEu8[/ame]

    But I don't think it will happen either.
     
  5. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    nope :up:
     
  6. rafael

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    While he wouldn't be my first choice I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Spiller bandwagon in the Dolphin's FO.
     
  7. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I'll have to ask why?
     
  8. rafael

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    This is a FO that has focused a lot of attention on finding players that are offensive mis-matches. That's why thy wanted Harvin last year. Spiller can have the same kind of effect.
     
  9. jim1

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    I got quite a snoot full last year about the Dolphins not wanting Harvin, which I always suspected was pure rubbish, and that's what it turned out to be. I suspected last year, as I do now, that the Dolphins FO was drooling over him. Spiller offers a similar skill set, but the obvious bias towards RB position as opposed to WR, and I could see us coveting him as well. As you pointed out, he's mismatch heaven. In the 1st round it's often best to go for pure talent, which Spiller is. A few months ago I would have shied away from the thought of taking Spiller, but not only would he add firepower and explosiveness to an offense starved for it, Ricky Williams has one year left before he retires. If Dez Bryant is there at #12, great. If a defensive player is there that the teams love at #12, then great. But if Spiller is the best talent on the board when we selcect I would have no problem with us taking him.
     
  10. Jaj

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    I would be surprised if Spiller were not in the discussion. The front office has some faith in its current players so much so that may say the OLB in round 2 is not worth missing on Spiller.

    They're not need whores like we are. They have patience.
     
  11. jim1

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    At the end of the day reaching doesn't do a whole lot of good. Free agency is for picking and choosing; the draft is, or should be, about the available talent at the time of your selection and figuring out how to maximize that with an eye on team needs as well. Baltimore Ravens/Ozzie Newsome are probably the template for successfull early round drafting. It seems that with them talent trumps need more often than not.
     
  12. CashInFist

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    CJ Spiller SHOULD be our pick if he is there. However, Dez Bryant has a better chance to be there for us at #12 before Spiller is. I doubt CJ is there when we draft.
     
  13. rafael

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    I have a feeling that Spiller goes to Seattle, but if he doesn't go there, he may be available for us.

    My board has Bryant #1 and then E. Thomas just ahead of Graham. Spiller might be in the next group. But my gut says that this FO might have him higher.

    And the truth is, it's not crazy. More and more the NFL is becoming about match-ups. If you have an offensive player that defenses can't match-up with then you have a huge advantage.
     
  14. Omaha

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    if spiller is there at 12 then we become real players in trading down
    several teams have need for him
    mock drafts have him going 13 to 49ers or 14 to seattle
    possibly letting us drop a few picks and gather an extra pick or 2
     
  15. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    :up:
     
  16. corbyons

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    Let me preface this by saying I'm not sure Spiller would be my choice at 12 but he does add something our team needs and that is Big play ability. He can score a touchdown from anywhere on the field and is a match-up problem. Two areas I think our team is in need of are miss-matches when we are on offense and big plays that score points.
     
  17. mroz

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    Unless he can play, FS, OLB, OLB, NT, WR or TE I don't see the point.
     
  18. PhinsRock

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    Based on who's there. I want, in this order:

    Dez Bryant
    Earl Thomas
    Spiller

    But it is not my decision to make :lol:
     
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  19. rafael

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    He can play WR.
     
  20. Killerphins

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    wasn't Spiller hurt quite often at Clemson?
     
  21. rafael

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    I think he often had injuries but played through them most of the time(turf toe comes to mind for some reason). I heard he played in something like 51 of 52 possible games.
     
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  22. LandShark13

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    Why is it so many of us Dolphin fans look at draft prospects who play other positions and say he can play receiver? As hard as its been for us to find quality receivers who can play in the NFL you would think we would have learned our lesson by now.

    PS. Raf this wasn't a shot at you in anyway. I have looked at prospects and said the same thing.
     
  23. The Aqua Crush

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    I think he would probably be on the our FO's draft board. It wouldn't suprise me if they have done their homework on him and and placed him somewhere on our board.

    Ricky realistically has one year left, maybe two. One serious injury and were down to Ronnie and Cobbs.

    Ronnie has a contract comming up, which will be difficult to assign a fair value to. He's had a bad run of luck with various injuries but he starting to get up in age as well. Sure he still has several years left but the trend in the NFL is younger RB's who are fresh in the league are making the most impact on gamedays. The 27-30 year old RB's are productive but not nearly as productive as the 23-26 year old ones. We built our line to run and run lots, i can't see them abandoning that mentality. A young RB who can come in at the start of next season isn't a bad option. If our backs are not stable and healthy it could put ALOT of pressure on Henne to win every game on his arm. Not sure they want that to arise.

    Sure there are many other players who will be on Ireland/Parcell's and Sparano's board at the 12 spot, but to think they wouldn't even consider him should he be available doesn't make much sense. He's a terrific athlete and football player. I'm sure he's somewhere on the top 10 for our FO come draft day, whether he's there at 12 or not is another question.
     
  24. Phinperor

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    I know it probably won't happen but I want Spiller...Ricky will be gone, and Ronnie, unfortunately, may get injured...yet again
     
  25. mroz

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    great, unless he can play FS, WOLB, SOLB, NT or TE I don't see the point.:up:
     
  26. Larryfinfan

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    I don't think it's crazy but I think we have too many other holes to worry about a potential hole after next season. Brown may not be 100% at the seasons' start, but Ricky can fill in until he gets back to speed. Can Cam Wake, JD Folsom, Charlie Anderson and Erik Walden replace JT and Peezy at this point ??? I don't think so...I'd much rather see Jerry Hughes at #12. Fills a need and adds a potential star to a maligned defense.
     
  27. rafael

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    I don't know of a single player that can play all of those positions, so should we not take anyone?
     
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    He's played in games but he's often left games because of an injury. It seemed like every second/third game, he had to go out because of a strain or something. Either way, all we can do speculate right now because Miami was at the Clemson Pro Day today so don't count out anything just yet.
     
  29. DaFish

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    He was not 100% all of last season due to turf toe and his hamstring nagging him.
     
  30. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Do I really have to explain that post?
     
  31. finfansince72

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    I wouldn't have a problem with us drafting Spiller, then again if we passed on him for defense I wouldn't have a problem with that either. Having Ronnie and Spiller on the field at the same time would be a nightmare for defenses, I could see the coaching staff having him high on their board. Our offense put up a decent amount of points but we never had the time of playmaking that scares defenses, I think Spiller adds that to a team. I think he's worth picking where we are so I wouldn't be mad if we took him.
     
  32. rafael

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    Not really, you don't want Spiller, but you gave a nonsensical reason for it. The team isn't so simplistic that it's biggest concern is plugging in positions.

    The Dolphins know they need to get chunk yards on offense and stop the chunk yards on defense. They're not going to just fix one side first and then the other. They're going to pick the best players to solve those issues. Spiller is a player that could potentially provide that for the offense.
     
  33. mroz

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    it is not simpistic to think that a team that needs two OLB's a FS, NT, WR and TE to think that it would be a waste of resourses to draft a guy that plays the teams strongest position.

    As for chunk yardage, they need to address that with the TE and WR positions on offense and FS on defense. :up:
     
  34. BB Ocho

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    at the RB position, Ricky is probably Miami's best chunk yardage player and he will be gone soon. Ronnie isn't getting big plays, and when he seems to break it he get's caught or tripped up. Cobbs? Hilliard? Sheets?
     
  35. skippysphins

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    hey i want dez but spiller would more than likely be my second. i would love to see him in our wildcat . ricky fast but not like spiller . the jet sweep im drooling about it as i write think about it . 51 out of 52 games that is a really good number of starts . after dez is gone would pick spiller imagine the possibilities WOW!! now that is electric go wild cat!
     
  36. CaribPhin

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    Cause you're a donut.
     
  37. LandShark13

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    Huh wha? I always considered myself more of a waffle.....
     
  38. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
    216 1212 5.6 66 12 36 503 14.0 63 4 0 0

    Plus another 960 in return yards and 5 more TDs.

    Wow!
     
  39. krypto

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    Ronnie Brown is not as good as you worship him to be.
     
  40. krypto

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    Stop living and dying by his numbers in college. Ted Ginn was great in college.....
     

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