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Doughy Porter

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CaribPhin, Mar 19, 2010.

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  1. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    No typos here. As per ESPN's Adam Shefter:

    http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

    That's a big contract. It can max out at about $24.5 million meaning Joey will be making on average between $6 and $8 million a year. How is he still worth that bank?
     
  2. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Desperate measures/idiotic measures
     
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  3. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    no way he lasts 3 more years. 2 at the most.
     
  4. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    I guess they think all that money is going to effectively plug up the hole in his face that talks a lot.
     
  5. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Well good for him, but talk about overpaying! Seems to me that Arizona got themselves in trouble with bad contracts before. Doesn't look like they learned much.
     
  6. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    Who were they bidding against? I wonder how much is guaranteed as well.
     
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  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Huh, and I was called all manner of imbecile for suggesting we hang onto Porter and pay his 1 million dollar bonus because he had trade value.

    Cardinals agreed...hmm seem to recall saying something about them...
     
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  8. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I'm sincerely happy for him.
     
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    I have to think that they tried to trade him. And nobody bit (or bit hard enough). Regardless of whether we paid the bonus, we weren't going to hang on to him. And teams knew that. So why trade?

    No real details on the contract, but I bet there's not much guaranteed and it's probably (typically) backloaded. So I don't know how much of that $17M (or $24M) he'll actually see. I think either way though, Arizona way overpaid.
     
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  10. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I'm sincerely happy he plays for someone else
     
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  11. skippysphins

    skippysphins Well-Known Member

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    i think the cards got the short end of the stick, but also lost alot of money . goodbye joey,hello karlos the phins win !!!
     
  12. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Whatever trade value he had, Porter blew that up with his mouth and ridiculously classless behavior.....and IMO he did it by design so that he could just get his release, go where he wanted and renegotiate. Get some new signing bonus money

    No one was going to give us jack for that guy...... IMO anyway

    Love seeing him go to a team like Arizona that will be lucky to hit .500 next year....it's exactly how he deserves his career to end.
     
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  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Sure...:shifty:
     
  14. PerfectTeam

    PerfectTeam Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't see how they agreed. They signed him for less than what his contract with us was. We did the right thing getting rid of a locker cancer that didn't want to be here anymore.
     
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  15. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    His salary was a one yr 5 million deal, they could have cut him after the season and before the salary cap was reinstalled, if it were reinstalled in 2011.

    They could have rented JP for a yr at 5 million, instead they gave him 3/17 million.
     
  16. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    This is probably the one player i wouldnt have minded gone to a division rival cause he would have talked trash the week before we played them, guranteed a win, and then embarassed himself.
     
  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    More or less, Porter will help the Cardinals, make no mistake about it.
     
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  18. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Porter could have a Chad Pennington type year if he feels he has something to prove. But chances are he will just run his mouth and take plays off like usual.
     
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    This
     
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  20. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Didn't you hear....we did trade him. :lol:

    By the way just because someone spends money on a player does not mean they will trade picks. Especially to a team that everyone knows they are going to have to cut the player cause he's acting like a jackass.
     
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  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I still dont think they would have traded for him, but was hoping I was wrong on that, oh well we will never now.....Ariz was the only team that wanted him....

    Dude 17.5 over 3 years!?!?!?!?!?!?! then add another 7 plus if he hit bonuses!?!??!!?? 25.5 possibly....you are talking like around 8.5 a year!!!!

    :headscratch:
     
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  22. dirtywhiteboy

    dirtywhiteboy Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    glad it's az instead of buffalo. you know if he went there he would have his best season ever with our luck!
     
  23. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Hey, at least Doughy is closer to Las Vegas where he might be able to get into trouble again, you know...if he sees his pal Levi...
     
  24. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Porter will probably have a good year next year, I've got a strong feeling about it. I think most of last year was probably attributed to him throwing a tantrum, and being injured.

    That being said, I think that'll be the last year of gas he's got in the tank, he won't make year 3 of that contract.
     
  25. padre31

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    :chuckle:

    9 sacks, seriously FY, he was the best FA OLB available, who else was there?

    And a hidden point is, if JP was worth 17 million, what is JT's worth?

    Jt had a much much better year, the "stats" won't show it, however JT was head and shoulders above Porter. .
     
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  26. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Good luck to him.

    P.S. I'm still not sure why we should care what a team pays for a player in an uncapped year. Am I missing something?
     
  27. PerfectTeam

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    Yea but also add in a one million dollar bonus too to the draft pick compensation they would have given and all of a sudden its a lopsided deal for us.
     
  28. padre31

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    No, because the Cards are paying him the 1 million dollar bonus in his salary already, at worst it would have been a push.

    Porter's sack number was one less than Julius Peppers, but of course the other numbers like pressures were better:

    10 sacks/33 pressures/10 Qb hits

    Porter:

    9 sacks/11 pressures/5 hits

    All in Peppers favor, the difference is the 64 million dollar contract vs 24 million, Porter is not as good as Peppers but the gap is not 40 million dollars worth, Porter is 80% of the player that Peppers was in 2009 imho.
     
  29. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    WOW is a three letter word
    Now why didn't they resign Dansby again?
     
  30. phinagan

    phinagan New Member

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    Good Trade!:hi5:
     
  31. SCPhinFan

    SCPhinFan Junior Member

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    Just stupid money for an over the hill big mouth like porter. This is the year he had either hamstring or knee issues that keep him out of training camp.

    One thing we do not know is the amount of guaranteed money and his signing bonus. That tells it all. A 3 year deal means nothing without guaranteed money and a larger signing bonus.
     
  32. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    You mean the Madden Challenge right? Joey Porter is not even close to Julius Peppers. Peppers is an All-Pro with commitment issues. Any given year Peppers can get 17 sacks. The guy just doesn't try.
     
  33. padre31

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    Bro, I don't play Madden, and "yes" Porter is comparable to Peppers stats wise, he falls nicely into the 80/20 rule when compared to Peppers.
     
  34. Vaark

    Vaark Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium

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    I was actually hoping he'd sign with the Redskins so that he could scrimmage against Levi Brown.. but 1-on-1 this time. :) He served his purpose for the Fins in 08, but I suspect his next season will more resemble an 09 where his mouth was writing checks his play play couldn't cash. Good riddance thug!
     
  35. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Numbers are not indicators of talent or ability all the time. Julius Peppers right now is better than Porter ever was. Peppers's problem is a lack of effort. Joey Porter's best year ever was 2008. Looking at stats, however, Joey Porter has 529 tackles and 92 sacks. Peppers came in the league 3 years after Porter and has 381 tackles and 81 sacks. Peppers averages 48 tackles and 10 sacks a year. Still in his prime you can expect him to keep that up for at least three more years. In three years which will make them equivalent, Peppers should have around 525 tackles and 111 sacks. These stats are assuming that Peppers didn't just need a change of scenery to play at his full potential.
     

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