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Draft Discussion Thread

Discussion in '2010 GM League Forum' started by Paul 13, Mar 27, 2010.

  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    whats the record for deals made in a GM league by team? Im at 20 now...
     
  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    What's the record for fewest? I'm at 0.
     
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  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Four more picks !
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'll trade with ya :console:
     
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  5. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    lol

    Unless you want to trade me Vontae for a pauper's sum I don't think we'll be able to do anything.
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Now I see why you have ZERO... :pity:
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Well when you start this thing with only 5 draft picks and only 1 of which is in the 1st 2 rounds, you are kind of limited.
     
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    you don't want to trade any of your players? HOARDER! :lol:
     
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  9. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm sorry my guys aren't overvalued like yours.
     
  10. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Nice pick Washington.
     
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  11. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    :tongue2: lots of players are overvalued, undervalued around the league in this thing... all about perception. Not to pick on Boik (he's a grown man, he can take it) but he just traded Donald Brown for a fourth? What did he do to lower his value from where he was traded last year (bottom of round one) to the top of round four? I can see trading him for a second, maybe a third... but a fourth?

    I don't even know that you tried making a trade... Did you come into this thing and then look at what I was doing and say "hell, I can't beat that, why even bother?" (pretty smart if you did... :pointlol:)
     
  12. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    yea that picture made me hungry and thirsty...
     
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  13. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I have an idea of who SICK is picking here.
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    :up:
     
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  15. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    you know me too well :lol:
     
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  16. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    It's funny how his stock has apparently dropped since the senior bowl. I saw him rated in the second round area. I thought he did very well at the SB practices, him and Taylor Price impressed me the most out of the WR's. Interested to see where he is drafted in a few weeks. Raiders?
     
  17. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I need to get into this round...

    I no longer need to get into the 105- 110 area (although I would not mind)

    Anybody that wants to trade a pick in this round...I am game.
     
  18. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I was disappointed in his route running at the Senior Bowl. He had trouble separating at times when it was underneath stuff. He did sit in his route, took too many steps to stop and didn't show the short area quickness IMO. Vertically though, he did damage.

    Message me.
     
  19. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I understand your point on the Brown trade but here is my perspective. There's two points I think I need to explain here.

    Point one is that I liked Donald Brown a lot coming out of U Conn last year. i liked him so much he was my highest rated back coming out of the draft last year. What changed is probably the next question you have. Well in watching some video on Brown last year there's two things I realized. One is that the "shiftiness" I saw from Brown at UConn has not translated in the NFL. Last year his running style was very stiff. So I compared it to some film from his time at UConn to see if I was just seeing things. Turns out the only thing that really changed was that he was able to get away with it at UConn because what really changed is the level of competition. His running style, from what I have seen simply does not translate the way I thought it would. The only thing worse then not admitting your mistake is not being able to recoup some of the value lost. I think I salvaged that. His YPC average last year furthers this claim to a degree, though the Colts OL in reality is not a great run blocking line. Still, with Hardesty who I drafted earlier in the day I found a much more decisive runner who seems to have much more wiggle in his step. So in re-evaluating the way I watch RB's I looked through some old film and the player most similar to Hardesty I found in terms of style is Marcus Allen. Im not saying Hardesty would be on that level, thats not a reasonable expectation. But Hardesty is a patient runner with a low pad level like Allen. Hardesty, like Allen, also is a classic one cut back meaning he will pick the hole to run through and not waste movement in the backfield like I caught Brown doing quite a bit of. Lastly, in Hardesty I found a back that runs with power that Donald Brown simply doesnt have. Put this guy in a zone blocking scheme or behind an OL with some very good run blockers (i.e. Phil Loadholt) and hes going to have quite a few 1000 yard seasons if his knee checks out (which it does according to my teams doctors :yes: ).

    The second part of the idea behind dealing Brown is quite simply a need at other positions. Having 4 running backs would have been overkill in my opinion. Donald Brown was 4th on my depth chart at RB after I picked Hardesty. However, I really wanted a good backup NT and I think Arthur Jones is that guy. Jones as a 2nd stringer would be more valuable then a 4th string back and since this is the pick Brown was traded for the comparison holds weight. In a lesser draft Jones is a top 60 player. He still may yet be one if his knee checks out. To me there was value in getting him in the fourth. It was a position of serious need in a 3-4 scheme and in the week Brown was on the block, I really didnt get a better offer.
     
  20. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    If Arthur Jones is healthy, he's got a lot of Randy Starks in his game IMO. I think he could do damage as a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 end. I was going to take Jones in this round if I didn't have Gerald McCoy at 6. :up:
     
  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    one pick away from the guy i want. alen or section better not take him or you will see legs broken :angry:
     
  22. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    so in other words your team will have no chemistry and will flounder for most of the year as it learns how to play with all the new additions
    :tongue2:
     
  23. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Oops?
     
  24. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Good pick Alen. I would've considered him at my pick if he were there.
     
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  25. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Thanks. I hate drafting wide receivers but there are some that are an exception and White was one of them. He adds to my average WR group. I don't think I'll ever win the GM league because I ignore some skill positions but I'm ok with it, haha.
     
  26. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    BTW, someone needs to take my BPA right now, because I don't want to be considering him if he falls to my pick.
     
  27. PeaTearGriffin

    PeaTearGriffin Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm trying to move up if anyone needs extra draft picks
     
  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'm trying to aquire a pick that happens SOON. Willing to move Peko for the pick
     
  29. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I think I know who adam is picking here.

    EDIT: Woops. I didn't even realize he picked ten minutes ago.
     
  30. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    who :lol:
     
  31. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    well I mean the OL needed some serious upgrades, we needed to get some running backs that dont suck, and we were transitioning to a 3-4. Additionally, we previously had a Tampa 2 cover scheme now we're going to play man press so the responsibilities of the DB's changed. So its quite an overhaul but I think things will be just fine. After all we still have Peyton Manning and you dont. :tongue2:

    Jones offers a lot of versatility. I believe he could be a very good 5 technique nose tackle in the Jason Ferguson mold. :wink2:
     
  32. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    i have pick 108 make an offer
     
  33. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Exactly. I like it cause Im enjoying the trading and the negotiations as well as learning more about the different picks available. :knucks:
     
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  34. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I think he spends too much time on the ground to be a nose tackle. Five technique I can see though.
     
  35. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm really surprised Mitchell fell as far as he did in this league.
     
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  36. Tractor Traylor

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    What defines 'soon'?
     
  37. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    My Manning has just as many rings as yours :tongue2:
     
  38. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Why?
     
  39. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    :lol:
     
  40. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    If my player is still on the board when said pick comes, I'll pull the trigger. Pretty much.
     

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