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NY Times: Five Trades That Need to Happen During Draft

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Colmax, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Link: HERE
     
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  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I wouldn't want Thigpen traded in the division for a mere 5th rounder.

    If Charlie Whitehurst is worth a 20 position swap in rd 2 and a 2011 3rd rounder, Thigpen has to be worth more than a 5th.
     
  3. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I agree.

    Miami is in a strong position if that proposition is there. I would be fine with an early 4th/late 3rd, though.
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    i dont see why the bills wouldn't draft tim tebow. i really see him going there. If Gaileys willing to make some crazy make-shift offense for Thigpen, which is what the chiefs were during Thigpens time there, then why not go for a younger, more talented, Tebow? Thigpen may have slightly better throwing abilities but its not really going to matter in Buffalo as they have no offensive line to speak of. And pretty poor wrs. And...they don't want Marshawn lynch anymore...and their defense isn't very good...

    my god the bills suck right now.
     
  5. Thunderbolt89

    Thunderbolt89 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with that article. Thigpen to Buffalo for a 5th rounder,no way. I would rather keep Thigpen,what is to say Pennington will play for us in 2011? I really like the potential Thigpen has as a backup and would rather keep him.
     
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  6. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    As much as I like Pennington he is still an injury risk and Pat White hasn't proved he can play at the pro level. If Henne got injured, (God forbid) then we would have to bank on Pennington finishing out the season without getting injured himself. If Pennington was out for any reason we would be down to Pat White and he hasn't shown any sign of being a reliable NFL starting QB. If that happened we could be wishing we had Thigpen back and we would be looking for a starting caliber QB. But thats JMO.
     
  7. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    While agree with what you're saying, I really didn't know much of anything about Whitehurst, so I went looking.
    Man, the guy's stat line is a series of goose eggs.
    I guess they're hoping he turns into the next Matt Schaub. But what a gamble.
    http://www.nfl.com/players/charliewhitehurst/gamelogs?id=WHI646241
    So yeah Thigpen has to be worth more than a 5th, and as you said we don't want to trade him the the Bills.
    In spite of the byline in the article - it really does not make sense for the Dolphins to do this trade.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Add sports to the long list of topics for which the New York Times is not a credible source of insightful information.
     
  9. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    no doubt what a ridiculous trade scenario.
    reading that I had to look again and make sure I wasnt at The Onion.
     
  10. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Maybe a certain newspaper should stick to writing pretentious literature articles and holding its nose just slightly above the rest of the world. It's a bit better at that.
     
  11. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Yeah here's a great idea....let's basically give a player to a division rival that could make them better....
     
  12. Rhody Phins Fan

    Rhody Phins Fan Well-Known Member

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    That would be an awful trade. We would be giving a division rival a solid starting quarterback for a 5th round pick.
     
  13. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    I think everyone would rather keep Thigpen, problem is what do you do with White ?? Can't cut him...to soon to admit such a draft blunder (which I still firmly believe it was/is). Can't trade him...no one would give even a 5th rounder for someone who did virtually nothing in his rookie year, after all the fanfare surrounding his being drafted. The man is not a QB, not a WR, not a RB and not a return guy....what is he ??
     
  14. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    1st, Thigpen is worth more then what we gave up for him (a 5th round pick).
    2nd, IF you are going to trade him with in the division you have to get more than you would outside the division.
     
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  15. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    No way is giving the Bills Thigpen for a mere fifth rounder a good trade. They need to offer at least their fourth rounder, and even then I'd hold out for their third, maybe throw in a sixth rounder along with Thiggy for their third.

    As for what White is? He's a project right now. Maybe a bust if he doesn't find a spot to play this year. If he could add at least 10 lbs of muscle and get some confidence throwing the ball at the NFL level, he might be a good situation QB for the Wildcat/Spread formation.
     
  16. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Take Tebow when? You mean with their pick in round one?

    He is a coin flip to be there with their pick in round two , imo. He could be wearing Viking purple at the end of round one ....
     
  17. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Another trade scenario with Buffalo involving Thigpen could be us using him in a deal where we swap 1st rounders....

    If Berry fell to #9......I'd deff give them Thiggy to trade picks
     
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  18. finfansince72

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    We got Thigpen for a 5th so.....thats about what he is worth in a trade. Now should we just trade him or a 5th? I dont' thinkso but I don't think he has any more value than that, not sure what he's done since we traded for him to raise his value. Whitehurst is obviously a much more sought after player than Thigpen, there isn't anyone beating down our door to throw us a high round pick for Thigpen. I like Thigpen as a backup but lets not get silly about his trade value.
     
  19. Roman529

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    HUH??????? Trading Thigpen for a 5th rounder will "soothe then pain of losing this year and next's year 2nd rounder for B. Marshall." ?????? Sorry but I would just keep Thigpen. No sense helping anyone in the AFC East for peanuts in return.
     
  20. AllianceCollect

    AllianceCollect The Beautiful Mrs. AC....

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    On the surface this trade makes sense to the casual NFL fan. If you look deeper, you see how ridiculous it is. Trade to a division rival a QB who basically torched your own defense with a crappy team theyerr we won the division? Our front office has made some arguably questionable moves, bu. Unless there is some real value like that swap of 1's for Berry scenario, it won't happen.
     
  21. DolfanCole

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    If it was up to me, he'd be an employee of a different team. How he gets there, I don't really care. I'd just assume cut our losses and let him go, even for nothing if nobody is willing to trade for him.
     
  22. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    it's just too soon for that. We drafted him knowing he's a project player. He was never supposed to get in the game last season as a QB. Pennington was never supposed to get hurt, White was never supposed to go in and try and run a normal offense yet. He wasn't ready obviously.


    Now many people say he never will be and their entitled to that opinion. I say give him one more year. after that, cut the loss if that's the case.
     
  23. DolfanCole

    DolfanCole Season Ticket Holder

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    I understand that he was a project player and his learning curve would be very steep. But, the biggest reason I'm for letting him go this year is the cap ramifications. The uncapped year provides somewhat of a "get out of jail free" card and allows teams to almost "right some wrongs" as the penalty is much less. Another reason is that I really like Thigpen. He is just a much better QB that White IMO. And I would prefer us not to carry 4 QBs on the roster as it means another position is cut and has less depth.
     
  24. Dorfdad

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    Pennington is not going to be here long. Yes he has a 2 year deal but thing happen.

    We need a true #2 and Thigpen should be that guy. As much as Pennington has done to help us he should be the #3 hes only getting older and injured keep him as the teacher.

    Henne, Thigpen, and Pennington. White was a mistake this Front office made and will be egg on their faces I assume. Unless he can convert to something usable I don't know what hes worth.
     
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  25. DolfanCole

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    I agree and I think Sparano is on record saying that Pennington will be the #3 this year.
     
  26. Vaark

    Vaark Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium

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    For us, and also Dallas, 5th round picks haven't even been "hit-or-miss." They've been all "Miss!" since 97 for us and 01, when Ireland became the scout for Dallas. To forearm our divisional enemy merely to move up 2 positions in the 5th round, giving up a sturdy, mobile QB who can fill in if Henne goes down, is a lot more durable than Pennington and can run the WC for us, is frankly Rucking Fidiculous! I don't know what that writer's smoking but it's gotta be stronger than the medicinal crop!
     
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  27. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    I read somewhere that we may be able to get a 2nd for Thigpen.. I think a 5th is closer to his value than a second
     
  28. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    we could put white on the practice squad for two seasons with his pal turner...
     

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