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Could the NFL to take action?? On Ireland...provides link

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finyank13, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  2. MikeHoncho

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    I say a 4 game suspension is in order...
     
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  3. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ha! behavioral classes with Big Ben, but seriously what can they do?? draft picks? please no.....
     
  4. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Taking away picks is a bit extreme. It's not like we recorded team practices of opposing teams or anything. Probably a fine or something. And it'd be ridiculous to fire someone over COMMENTS. I mean, hell Big Ben gets to rape a few people before the league even takes notice...
     
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  5. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    if they tag ireland for this they better get the other gm who asked the racial question about toby gerhart being a white running back in the nfl. do you smell double standard?
    i think this whole damn thing is being blown out of the water
     
  6. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I mean they did that for the Pats cheating thing, plus draft picks.....make J-Lo pay the fine....
     
  7. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    or nothing.
    Had he not already apologized, I would have said they might make him issue an apology.
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ohhh come Killa, there is no such thing a reverse racism!!!! you should know that....

    maybe the letter includes that incident as well...
     
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  9. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I really hope they try to take action, at which point Ireland comes forth with evidence that Bryant's mom has actually been a prostitute. Would that shut Dez up?
     
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  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I actually dont think it is Dez this time, I think the Union is starting to kick the tires on it, along with the Gerhart thing.....
     
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  11. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    this is becoming a ridiculous witch hunt created by dez the douchebag. we don't draft the guy and we still can't get away from him. I am going to laugh when he gets harrassed on the field about his mom being a prostitute and retaliates. oh wait maybe the ref will take diva's side and they will totally censor trash talk.
    this is a mockery of a sham of a travesty folks
     
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  12. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    We can knock Dez Bryant all day long, but the fact remains it was Ireland who asked the dumbass question.
     
  13. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Let's put this in perspective. If you were in the schoolyard and some other kid asked you: "was your mother a whore, " you would've decked him, right? How does an interviewer get to do the same thing? Seriously. We learned in grammar school to leave mothers out of things for a reason. It takes a 24-carat gold-plated a-hole to put a kid in that position at a job interview.
     
  14. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    and ireland apologized for it
    what do you want to happen with this whole thing. that a team loses a draft pick or something everytime a gm asks an esoteric question. there isnt anyone in the league who hasn't done that
    besides the apology i'm not sure what else you would expect him to do.

    for the record dez bryant is a whiny little bihtch who needs to just STFU
     
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  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    There is a time and a place for you to get mad, the kid almost slipped out of the 1st round, and with that went all that first round money too.....bad enough he wasnt top 15 or even 10, because his talent is........his atitude had alot to do with it, but instead of looking in the mirror, shutting up, playing the role, and cashing in, he blamed other people.....very common theme in society nowadays....

    although one could say he cashed in being on the Cowboys too lol.......but there is a big difference between number 10, 11, 12 money than number what 30?? who knows if the scarecrow didnt take him, how far he would have fallen??
     
  16. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    IMO There was nothing wrong with the question. It was designed to make him mad, and it did. Which is probably one of the reasons we didn't end up drafting him at the #12 spot.

    If someone asked if my mom was a prostitute at an interview, I'd just laugh and say no. Dez is a complete idiot.
     
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  17. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I don't even have a problem with Ireland. I don't want anything to happen to him. He did apologize, and the issue should be dead. But saying this is somehow Bryant's fault is silly.
     
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  18. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    If Ireland didn't draft Bryant because of his reaction (which was hardly a reaction at all) to that question, he is incompetent and should be fired. There were more than several reasons not to draft Dez. That wasn't one of them.
     
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  20. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    the guy is a crybaby
    if he had any balls or smarts he wouldn't have been offended by the question
    he did this with the shoes issue too
    he feels like he was being personally attacked.
    I'm sure that wasn't the intent.
    the guy is going to take so much heat on the field. it will affect him mentally imo
     
  21. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    If it led Ireland and company to trade for Marshall, forget fine... he should be given a key to the city!
     
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  22. MikeHoncho

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    Crying helps, Dez. Just wipe away the tears with all that Jerry Jones money, bro. You'll be okay.
     
  23. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Good point........technically there isnt anything they can do......also screw that no way should a private entity be told how to run their show...
     
  24. MikeHoncho

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    Just to be a Devil's advocate, Enron was a private entity...
     
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  25. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    I'm MUCH more floored by these comments than I am by Irelands conduct.

    I've never heard so many grown men spouting off about how a COMMENT would have legitimized throwing a tempertantrum and hitting someone, or flipping over desks. From players, fans, and talking heads there is an abundance of egos flaring up over one of the silliest non-issues ever.

    I'll go on record and say you can say anything you want about my mama...fact is you don't know Jack **** about her. I'll also say you can say nearly damn near anything about me and I won't bat an eye. The only thing I can see feeing me off is if you were making lude or derrogatory comments about my spouse or child repeatedly over time or in their presence. Because once again...you don't know Jack **** about me or my family. Getting teed off and so offended about a dumbass comment from someone else is juvenile to say the least.

    Dez isn't a kid on a playground. He's a grown man. At the end of the day Irelands comments didn't change affect who Dez is. People need to take an ego check and look at what happened. The "yo mama" chip on their shoulders should have been left back in the 3rd grade.


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  26. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I think this whole thing is ridiculous. Let me start by saying that NFL executives do a very thorough vetting process on any player they sign, including draft picks. Part of this process is to find out exactly what makes these people tick. Rookies are prepped by their college coaches, people at the camp they go to, or wherever else for the types of questions they will be asked in these interviews. These NFL coaches and GMs and execs are not going to hold your hand and stay in your comfort zone and bring you flowers and tissues during your interviews. They want to know who you are, what you're about and that you have the mental, physical and emotional toughness to play this game. Was Ireland's question in poor taste? Probably. Is it any different than any other question asked to gauge a similar response out of a possible draftee? Not at all. And I think that Dez Bryant has shown time after time after time that he does not have the mental or emotional toughness to play this game. I place him the Ryan Leaf arena when it comes to that.

    And to the other point, I think the Toby Gerhart incident is MUCH more important. Ireland may have made some blue collar remarks but what happened to Toby was blatant racism. Rush Limbaugh lost his job for making disparaging remarks about Donovan McNabb as a black QB. Given that he lost his job with ESPN not the NFL, and Limbaugh is a complete moron, but the fact remains that there would be a much larger stink if the roles were reversed here. At least that's how I see it.
     
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  27. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    If Dez doesnt think he will be hearing this on the feild from opponents constantly he can certainly count on hearing about what a cry baby he is.

    The NFL can do whatever they want to Ireland, honestly the NFL as a whole is becoming to big to handle and is going to a bad place right now. Its sad honestly.
     
  28. LandShark13

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    If I was a CB and covering him every other word out of my mouth would be referring to this line of questioning. You're 100% correct he best get used to it because if he thinks getting asked about this once in a private interview was harsh wait till he lines up in the NFL now that this is out. :lol:
     
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  29. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    so if I called your mom a whore it wouldnt bother you?
     
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  30. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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  31. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    if you're considering giving me several million dollars to play football, knock yourself out.
     
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  32. SeanP

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    Calling her a whore, and asking if she is a whore are two very different things. One is an insult, the other is a question.

    Either way it wouldn't bother me. I've got thicker skin then to let someone whom I hardly know/don't know say something to bother me.

    Not meant as a shot at you, just saying, it's hard for me to understand being an adult, going through the public school system, and caring what anyone says about you who does not intimately know you. I'm sure the majority of the population has had much worse said to, or done to them while growing up.
     
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  33. cdz12250

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    We're not communicating. It has nothing to do with whether I know anything about your mother. It's a question of the decorum, respect and manners that a professional organization is supposed to exercise with people who deal with it. That's why we stayed away from mothers in the schoolyard: Matter of respect. No one really believed what was said, but everybody knew it was an attack on your dignity as a person. Ireland was an a-hole for saying it to the kid because it was unprofessional and disrespectful, regardless of its not having changed or affected who Dez is. That said, Ireland apologized man to man (although that's hollow because the kid is in no position to confront him), and that's the end of it. But in my book he's still an a-hole and his behavior is unbecoming the Miami Dolphins. No big deal; if the NFL sanctioned every a-hole who works around it, Belichick, for one, would be in the poorhouse.
     
  34. sloppyjoer

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    ...or a class action suit against Ireland for defamation of character...it seems it's turned into a national story.
     
  35. rafael

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    My guess is that the worse potential result (not saying likely result) would the commissioner or the team mandating some HR training. I could also see some guidelines being written into the new and eventual collective bargaining agreement. I expect the union to lose quite a bit this time around. This could be one of their "wins".
     
  36. LandShark13

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    Come on man. It was Jeff that leaked the story it was Dez so He can Sue himself. :tongue2:
     
  37. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Well, I don;t know about anyone else, but if I about to hire a candidate for a big job in my department, and he's gonna make $20 mil bucks and be critical to our company succeeding or failing, AND I find out his Mom was a crack head for years and was in trouble with the law etc... plus it seems like the candidate himself has had rumors of character issues around him... I wouldn;t even WANT to take a risk on the guy when I have a waiting room full of candidates WITHOUT crackhead Mom's and character questions.

    So, honestly, for Byrant to have any chance he'd have to reassure me about all that stuff. The onus isn;t on me to convince myself to take a risk on some dude when I could just hire someone else.

    The onus is on the dude with question marks to go above and beyond to reassure his prospective employer. If that means bluntly addressing some tough questions, then he better be willing to do that.

    That said, I wish we knew how Ireland had phrased it. I suspect it was not what he asked, but how he asked it that annoyed Dez. Ireland doesn;t seem to have wonderful soft diplomacy skills.
     
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  38. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    What's wrong with a mother being a whore?
     
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  39. Phin-o-rama

    Phin-o-rama Well-Known Member

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    everyone is such a *****


    at least ireland owned up and apologized...if you think ireland is the only gm to do this you are sadly mistaken


    i honestly don't see the big deal...he asked a question and dez said no...move on
     
  40. Phin-o-rama

    Phin-o-rama Well-Known Member

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    i know...it's a legit profession in many countries and in nevada



    she probably WAS one and that's why he's blabbing about what's supposed to be a private interview.:up:
     

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