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Jason Taylor discusses signing with the JETS

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, May 1, 2010.

  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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  2. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    It's clear to me that he is sad and would have rather played in Miami. I think he thought he was home again. I think he still hates the JETS but was between a "rock and a hard place"
     
  3. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    It is sad to see him go. He is a legendary Dolphin and a class act, and I wish things were different. I wish him well.
     
  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thats a crock. If he wanted to play here he would have signed one of the offers we made to him.
     
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  5. DHPVW

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    Now thats just stupid, their offer showed just how much they appreciate JT. It was not a reasonable offer, and should have been a lot more money. That and the fact that they wanted him to wait around until they were ready to sign him at their convenience. Then after the draft they would have simply told him to piss off, he did what he should have done and signed with a good team.

    Don't blame him for a second
     
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  6. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    While I dont blame him either, the fact still remains... if he wanted to sign here, he would have signed our offer, or hung around. Im not sure who he thinks he is at this point in his career. Our offer wasnt reasonable? We dont know the terms do we? Personally, I dont feel JT is worth the 13 million(if I recall correctly) his contract is potentially worth with the Jets. So for him to say its sad he's not here, he played the game, he got the Jets to overpay for him, and we weren't willing to go along, and decided to get younger through the draft... So don't go crying to the media after that you wanted to be here. If he really still hated NY, he wouldn't have gone there. But he went, for the big fat contract. I know, it was his only offer at the time, and you gotta do what you gotta do, but had he waited, between post draft, and up until the start of training camps, and the start of preseason, surely he'd have gotten another offer. It is what it is.

    What we did, its textbook personnel management from our GM. Why sign an older vet player, in the decline of his career to a fat contract when you can get younger in the draft.
     
  7. padre31

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    "Blame"?

    Why? He made a professional decision, he wanted to play for the NY Jets, and signed with them.

    This idea that Taylor (he is no longer "JT") just had to sign with the Jest is one of the more delusional notions I've seen.

    Does anyone recall what Jason Tessio's mantra was in April of 09?

    "I missed my family while I was in Washington, I am willing to take less money to be with my family in Miami"

    Has anyone..and I do mean anyone...heard that from Jason Tessio before he signed with the Jets this year?

    Bueller...Bueller...
     
  8. late again

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    Jason Ferguson and Chad Pennington were just recently offered new contracts. Ronnie Brown still hasn't been offered a new one. Yet Taylor was made an offer back in November before anyone, while his shoulder was still injured - and again right after the season was concluded. How much more respect should he be shown? The fact that they made an offer so early makes the statement that he was their first choice.
    Getting overly sentimental and overpaying a player just because he's a fan favorite is a sure way to put together an unsuccessful team. You keep doing this and the next thing you know you have no money to sign the Dansbys and/or the Marshalls, etc.
     
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    boohoo
     
  10. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    Nobody knows what's going on better than judgmental fans who are light years away from the situation. That's what I always say.
     
  11. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    he keeps saying he has moved on then goes back to whining
    total drama queen
     
  12. unluckyluciano

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    Like I said on another thread, all the *****ing about jt, yet if he was cut everyone would have said so long and thanks without a thought about it. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Honestly I Cant Believe Some of You Miami Dolphins Fans. We Have to Respect the Desicion JT made. The Dolphins FO wasnt willing to "show him love". Jason taylor Is one of the leagues best pass Rushers and do you see what we were paying him, it was practically Lunch Money in the NFL. Nd remember we are in a recession.

    I believe JT made the better decision for his family. You cant always make the fans happy. We all knew deep inside The Dolphins FO didnt want to bring back JT. Whats Done is Done. JT is a Jet and i wish him the best Miami Dolphin Or Not.
     
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  15. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    I love JT. When we invest are hearts in a team a guy like JT brings it all out!

    Im kinda torn as many are im sure, but like Padre said theres the bull**** factor If he really believes these were his only opportunities then he needs to get a agent.


    I felt that through out the interview, he made nice but still tried to show (OVER AND OVER) that he was wronged. Myabe he was wronged due to what he gave us, b ut this office is trying to build a winner, and this fake *** excuse for sympathy doesnt fly. He is JT, he had more than just the opportunity with the jets. He wants a Superbowl, fine just say it Jason.

    Jason'
    Dont go telling me you understand the business side and say you respect them decisions when you spew this BS sorry. You made the Jets cake now you get to eat it too. good luck
     
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  16. padre31

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    We offered him 2 million, the Jets offered closer to 3 million, with a fairy tale contract in 2011 for 13 million..that they will never have to pay.

    He joined the Jets after spurning 2 contract offers in Miami...full stop..all of the "wanted to be with my family" stuff from April 09 and the 'they only offered me one contract.."

    Was a deception princekong2...or else one believes Taylor's family was important in 09...but not in 2010...dude lied to us all.




    Really? What made leaving DC in 09 for his family the "right" decision, but leaving them in 2010 still a "right" decision?

    Taylor spurned 2 contract offers in 09, thrashed the front office on his way to the arch rival Jets, and lied about the whole situation.

    Sorry dude, but thems is facts., one wishes to believe Taylor is a hero, the ugly truth is, Taylor is a very self serving ego driven persona for those who see him for what he really is...
     
  17. bluehaze

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    Same old JT always pointing fingers... I was on the fence before but i'm actually glad he's gone now. I think all the woe is me and passing blame is bad for team morale.
     
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  18. Roman529

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    JT made his bed and now he has to lay in it. I am over it and looking forward to watching Dansby, Edds, Misi and our new defense. It was to time sweep out the old and bring in some new younger blood.
     
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  19. muscle979

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    It's your opinion and perception of a situation. It's hardly a fact. It's no more a fact than me giving you some circumstantial [at best] evidence that Tony Sparano is having spaghetti for dinner tonight. As I said earlier, nobody knows a situation better than judgmental fans getting all of their information via 'he said, she said,' or speculation. JT left, bottom line. Maybe he was being selfish, maybe he was disrespected, maybe he was being disrespectful, we don't actually know any of that. His agent says one thing, he says another, the Dolphins say something completely different. So please respect us all enough to stop trying to sell us your opinion of a situation as a 'fact'. We can all sit here and handpick the stories and quotes that suit what we want to believe. Just because he decided to not go with the situation most ideal for his family doesn't prove anything. They may have given their blessing. We don't know.
     
  20. High Definition

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    Tired of Jason Taylor now. He needs to STFU and move on. We have.
     
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    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    There can be no "perception" when there are statements to the contrary, one can decide for oneself the reliability of Ireland saying they had a offer on the table after the season, however that is not "perception".

    Perception involves speculation, a fact, is a fact.


    When there are statements at controversy, one simply looks to the whole of the evidence, which is why it is timely to point out that Taylor was all about "being with my family" in 09..yet in 2010...not a peep, nothing, Taylor choose the Jest, that is also a "fact".

    http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=347&sid=6f0cukn1nlmlrusor7jq1d4a0lpl772r

    # 5 down that page, Kim Bokamper, who has far better access to Dolphins insider stuff chats with Sid Rosenberg about Taylor's two contract offers...

    You tell me Muscle, is Kimbo lying as well as Irish?
     
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  22. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    There is nothing wrong with being drivin im that way but be honest
     
  23. padre31

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    100% honest..think about it, "who" is the only one to say "there was no second offer"? "who" is the one who claimed "my agent drove me to...go on DWTS...to visit Rex Ryan.."?

    Who claimed there was a second contract offer, only to have his agent hop onto the phone line and say there was no contract offer in Miami?

    Who is the one who claimed in 09 he would take less money in 09 to "be with his family"? Yet who signed for slightly more money in NY? Who played golf after the season..yet claimed they needed to rehab their shoulder?

    The absolute only thing Jeff Ireland has said publically is "there was an offer on the table after the season"...

    Who left a 8-8 Redskins team to join a 11-5 Dolphins team to leave them and join a team that went to the AFC Championship Game?

    Taylor reminds me of the Saddam character from Southpark..

    Listen to the interview with Kim Bokamper beginning around 10:30 left to go..
     
  24. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    WOOH WOOH Maybe i should have been more sensitive with my comment lol. I agree, I want Jason to be honest!
     
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    If you continue to have to explain yourself and make excuses for something you did... that means you screwed up. You suck, Jet.
     
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    Exactly, I sorta "care" that Taylor wound up with the Jest, I really mind the way he thrashed the current Dolphins FO on his way out the door.

    He is the Saddam H character from Southpark telling Satan "I love you" and that pisses me off to no end, Taylor chose the Jest over the Dolphins everything else is noise generated by Taylor to sucker his fans into believing 'he had no choice..:angry:
     
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  27. the 23rd

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    both Zach & Jason are Miami Icons
    my best wishes to the both of them
     
  28. late again

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    Exactly....in May of 09, Taylor insisted he was a Dolphin for life. According to his own words, while he was in Washington he was still referring to the Dolphins as "we". In addition he stated he would either play in Miami or retire - that he had no interest in playing anywhere else. Money didn't matter. Vet minimum; whatever the team decided he was worth was okay. The only thing that mattered was coming back to his "home". Six months later all that's out the window when the team offers him a new contract.
    So what changed?
    Well, one could speculate.
    How about this possibility. Before the 09 season the Redskins were viewed to be improving. The Dolphins were viewed as a major renovation project coming off a 1-15 season. Before the season started Washington appeared to be the better team.
    Yet we won the division, and the Skins?....didn't live up to expectations. Now all of a sudden Taylor misses the Dolphins.
    Next year, we end up back on earth with a 7-9 record and missed the playoffs.
    The Jets? They went to the AFC Championship game and are now favorites to win the AFCE.
    So is it a coincidence?
    I don't believe so.
    So yeah do whatever you feel is right Taylor. It's your life. But quit lying.
     
  29. unluckyluciano

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    You don't find the timing of the second contract rumor being a little too convenient? Why not just release the second contract offer from the get go? They already released the one during mid season to help the dolphins image, why not leak the second one when it would have helped their case even more so.
     
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    Come on Satan, you know you love me, that Rex is a fat hottie but he can't make you happy lol'

    Love always,
    Saddam
     
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  31. siciliansith

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    :thanx: Rock on well stated. I love Jason Taylor but not this year. and probably not for a while
     
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    Congrats, you took the "red" pill Neo.

    Step back, it is soo obvious what happened.

    Que Taylor/Saddam pic..."I love you"...
     
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    And you as well, that is the game Jason Tessio (Godfather II reference..unavoidable) has been doing.

    Check out that Kim Bokapmper/Sid Rosenberg interview and he correctly points out..all the information that came out came from..Jason Taylor and his agent..

    Ireland said nary 2 words.

    http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=347&sid=6f0cukn1nlmlrusor7jq1d4a0lpl772r

    At about the 11:00 minute mark.
     
  34. krypto

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    Why don't everyone just grow up and move on? Seriously.
     
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    This board is full of immature hypocrites.....haven't you learned that by now?
     
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    I've always agreed with you KP but he's answering what the reporters are asking him....what is he supposed to do?
     
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    March 24th - It is announced the Jets will be featured on Hard Knocks.

    April 20th - Jason Taylor signs with the Jets.

    Coincidence?
     
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    Tessio visited NY on..April 7:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5063035


    Anyone else recall "I'm not trying to chase a Championship" from 2009?
     
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    Clayton makes a really really good point. In Rex Ryan's blitzing defense Jason Taylor could rack up quite a few sacks. Think about that.

    JT has 127.5 career sacks. He is the current leader among active players but 11th all-time since they have started keeping track. He is at a point in his career where he starts thinking about his legacy and his chances at the Hall of Fame. If he racks up 15 sacks with the Jets this season he would have 142.5 career sacks passing Michael Strahan and finishing 5th all-time.

    JT is not going to get 15 sacks playing in a limited role for the Dolphins.

    Rex Ryan loves him and wants him to be a major part of the defense. Plus the added exposure on HARD KNOCKS will only help with his career in Hollywood after football.

    The only player the Jets lost to free agency was Thomas Jones but they signed LaDainian Tomlinson and traded for Antonio Cromartie and Santonio Holmes. JT has to be thinking they are Super Bowl contenders. Fifteen sacks and a Super Bowl victory would all but secure his spot in Canton.

    I gotta tell you. Now that I look at it. I am kinda rooting for the guy. He was a great player for us during a time when we didn't make the playoffs very often. He played for five different coaches over thirteen years.

    JJ drafted Taylor with the 73rd pick in 1997. If the Steelers, Colts, or Pats had gotten him at 82, 86 or 89 JT would be a Hall of Famer without question. No doubt in my mind.

    82nd pick - The Steelers drafted OT Paul Wiggins from Oregon.
    86th pick - The Colts drafted LB Bertrand Berry from Notre Dame.
    89th pick - The Patriots drafted DB Chris Carter from Texas.

    Let's face it. Ireland and Parcells did not want JT. Yeah they might have signed him if nobody else did and he was just sitting there waiting for them. They could have easily outbid the Jets if they wanted to.

    If.

    They.

    Wanted.

    To.

    But they didn't want to.

    Aside from the Jets winning the Super Bowl I hope JT gets everything he wants.
     
  40. padre31

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    Odd, so on the one hand Taylor is a "dolphin for life" and all of the mediocre things he accomplished, like DPOY, are just ducky, thrash Sparano and Co while going to the Jets...that is just ducky?

    Taylor is a big boi and can go play for whomever offers him a deal, however the wounded martyr bit is a lie, one that is being perpetuated, and that sours me on any positive feelings I may have had for Jason Tessio.

    5 yrs from now? Bygones are bygones, however if one watched the OP's video, Taylor was still playing the role to the hilt.

    Mean old Jeff Ireland doesn't respect me, I have no choice but to reject their offer and try to win a super bowl..err...take the only offer that I've led my fans to believe that was on the table..:cry:

    Poor poor me.
     

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