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Tim Graham thinks Sanchez is better than Henne

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by SeanP, May 5, 2010.

  1. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Could be; in fact, it is likely.

    Sanchez started from day one; Henne sat for a year, and even when he did finally start in his second year, Sanchez out-performed Henne - as a rookie.

    If Sanchez and Henne both continue to just improve at the same rate from their respective stopping points at the end of last season, Sanchez will still be the better QB at the end of this season.

    I don't know why it's such heresy; it just is what it is.

    Henne showed a lot of promise, but he also showed some alarming tendencies in his fundamental game - which Sanchez did not. If Henne cannot overcome those fatal flaws during his further development this season, we will be drafting a QB next year.
     
  2. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    I don't understand how you can refer to a QB who threw 12TD's to 20 INT's and say he was fundamentally sound. I mean come on....
     
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  3. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    First of all, at what did he outperform Henne at?

    Secondly, there's very good reason why Henne didn't start, and why you don't start a rookie quarterback. Throwing a bunch of interceptions and getting fisheyed over it is absolutely one reason. You're trying to avoid bad habits.

    Because it's factually wrong?

    And what flaw was this?
     
  4. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    how did sanchez out perform henne?

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  5. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't understand what sanchez has done other then throw 20 interceptions. All he did was manage to not lose two games. Henne went out and flat out beat the jets in Miami.
     
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  6. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    No he didn't bro.
     
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  7. LandShark13

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    [TABLE="head; width=90%"]Player|Att|Comp|Pct|Att/G|Yds|Avg|Yds/G|TD|Int|Lng|Rate
    Henne|451|274|60.8|32.2|2,878|6.4|205.6|12|14|67|75.2
    Sandches|364|196|53.8|24.3|2,444|6.7|162.9|12|20|65T|63.0
    [/TABLE]

    Putting this up here so folks can compare stats without tabbing out.
     
  8. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    hmm better stats and less games played. Like heck sanchez is better.
     
  9. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Mark Sanchez threw as many passes as Chad Henne, or even was in an offense that even came close to 50/50 run pass, the Jets would need a whole hell of alot more than two teams playing backups to get near the playoffs.
     
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  10. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Exactly. I was just about to post the stats so thank you.

    Henne outperformed Sanchez last year, period.
     
  11. Ronnie Bass

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    Good grief man, did you watch Sanchez AT ALL last year? Because if you did you would have seen Sanchez with much more concerning flaws than Henne.
     
  12. Wildcat23

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    This is probably the worst post in this whole thread of terrible posts. You can NOT say Sanchez out performed Henne, no matter how you look at it. And I would also love to hear your insight on "alarming tendencies." What I saw out of the kid was steady progression--which is exactly what you want from a young QB--throughout the season. He did seem to get rattled in the pocket when pressure was coming some time, but that is far from alarming...even a tendency, as he progressed and make strides in his pocket presence. Sanchez...I saw Interceptions as a big tendency. Also, Sanchez was drafted to start day one, Henne, was not.

    Look, neither of these QBs are at the pinnacle of their games. I'm not totally sold or not sold on either of them. This article states an opinion, one which I dont agree with, but nevertheless, he supported it with his facts and I can respect that.(since I have my own facts I look at to argue against his reasoning)


    We can all speculate, but lets face it, our team will have a lot of different faces come week 1, we dont know how well they will gel, so to say our defence will not put us on our backs or Marshall will make Henne an elite QB, lets just see them play together first.

    anyways...

    Go Henne :up:
     
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  13. #1dolphinsfan

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    Every has there own opinion
     
  14. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I like the speed at which Sanchez plays. He plays 'fast' IMO.

    And for anyone who claims Sanchez is strictly a front-runner, he did a pretty good job in the fourth quarter of that Monday Night game in Miami. Teams went back and forth. He made some big throws.
     
  15. padre31

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    Sancchez's problem is he cannot handle pressure very well, he doesn't have the frame that can sustain a poor Oline.

    Imho Sanchez is a fair weather Qb, as long as things are perfect he will be an effective player, let one thing be off even the smallest amount and you see 6 Interception games.
     
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  16. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    Dirty sanchez did worse with far better supporting cast, so yeah Henne > sanchez
     
  17. dwhorton

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    well when your down in those 3 games by the margins we were down,i think the d knows you have to throw the ball so yeah he'll probably throw a few more interceptions. i thought chad led us back in those games prettyy well. sanchez never had to lead his team back from 21 pts down and still threw 20 picks. now we know why tim blogs.
     
  18. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    sanchez had 6 more INT's and 1 more game played.

    As of right now, it is what it is.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    20 INTS, bro...
     
  20. MikeHoncho

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    Henne wishes he could throw 6 picks.
     
  21. PS17

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    I don't think it is fair to compare Sanchez the rookie to Henne the second year pro [who had way more college starts, too.]

    I'll say this though. I like Sanchez and Henne both - a lot. I do think they will both be upper echelon QB's for the next ten years.

    Fact is, the Henne vs. Sanchez battle is incomplete right now. This will be much easier to sort out in two years, possibly even next year, as their respective careers develop. I look forward to watching them both.
     
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  22. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I totally agree that it is too early.
     
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  23. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I dont think either QB has an excuse this year.

    I like how you pick and choose your stats, he only threw for over 200 yards once in those playoff games, he did not carry the Jets through the playoffs, their great D and their running game did.

    Henne did statistically outperform Sanchez on an injury riddled, depleted team.

    And Henne didnt need to have the offensive system dumbed down for him more than once.
     
  24. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    His playoff performance? are you referring to the 182 yard performance he put up? Maybe the 100 yard performance? Thats impressive to you?
     
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  25. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I agree its a futile exercise.
     
  26. padre31

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    The Robot would see a Blue Screen of Death if he threw 6 picks.
     
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  27. late again

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    You left one out and.....you know you did :shifty:
    257 yds 2TDs and 1 INT cmp 56.7 % and 93.3 QB rating??
    But yeah completing 80% of your passes. Avg 12.1 yds. 1 TD and no INTs. Pretty damned good even if it was 182 yds.
     
  28. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I left out one that was descent so?
    And no its not pretty damned good. If I ask you to do less of something its usually because I don't want to give you more chances to screw up.
     
  29. Sceeto

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    "Dirty Sanchez"
     
  30. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And what of his sloppy footwork and inconsistent mechanics? His accuracy was spotty at best last year.
     
  31. NaboCane

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    It's true...Henne really does have atrocious footwork, and he misses passes he should make.
     
  32. muscle979

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    Really? What are you Mr. Thesaurus? Next time I'll use the word nurtured, protected, or harbored in no particular order. I think I'm free to use the English language any way I see fit without answering to you.
     
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  33. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Actually I was referring to Sanchez. Henne's mechanics are pretty much clean.
     
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  34. LandShark13

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    ^This
     
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  35. GMJohnson

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    Ive only been here a short time but this is easily one of the worst threads Ive ever been in. The Jets (might) be better than the Dolphins but Sanchez vs Henne is not even close. If youre talking potential, be my guest, but if youre talking performance, Sanchez was one of the worst QBs in the whole league while Henne was somewhere in the middle of the pack.

    Sanchez had 24 turnovers (5.5 INT%) and 15 TDs. Henne had 13 TDs and 14 TO's (3.1 INT%), while playing a tougher schedule with a lesser supporting cast, a porous defense, and I wont even mention the injuries.

    FYI: There were two NFL QBs who didnt lose a fumble last year. Peyton Manning, and Chad Henne. People should really watch the games closely before they make silly statements. Graham included.
     
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  36. Anonymous

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    Henne could have done the same if he were in the playoffs.
     
  37. GMJohnson

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    Note to self: NaboCane does not actually watch football :no:
     
  38. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I know you are relatively new here but Nabo is a good dude and does watch football. I have had times where I agree and disagree with him. I just dont know what hes watching this time :tongue2:

    On a different note, play nice bro. Even when we disagree with someone we dont do things to call out other members or to create conflict. We try and rise above that on this board which is what makes us different. That's why many of us have been posting together for 5-6-7 years in many cases, some longer. :wink2:
     
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  39. Nappy Roots

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    still awaiting your explanation as to how sanchez out performed henne??

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  40. bluehaze

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    All the media is on the Jets bandwagon, happens every year, this year it happens to be the Jets and Sanchez, next year after the Jets crumble it will be someone else. It's hard to put much weight into what the media says seeing as they are usually wrong. ;)
     

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