It's probably already here some where. I'm never the first guy to post anything. I looked for it but as usual didn't find it...so here it is. http://mia.scout.com/2/968152.html
I agree, that's a pretty solid list of prospects right there. I might have added Kendall Langford to the list, but it's hard to say who you can put him over.
interesting selection however 1) both Anderson & Moses have experience & talent & are ready to compete Koa Misi will have to win the position, there will be no anointment @ OLB I think Anderson will win the start & Misi will give him a run for his money while gaining valuable playing time, if Misi starts, it will be late in the season 2) John Jerry has size & potential but there are better starting choices @ OG: both Incognita & Dimitri are proven bulls & are the ones to beat JohnJerry will be competing w/ the Donald as the team project & back-up OG. 3) Donald Thomas will come under serious scrutiny & will need to learn quickly the Donald is a beast & the strongest human being on the Miami roster having said that he will need a stellar camp & pre-season to hold on to the start 4) for Misi & Jerry I would have placed Dimitri, Grice-Mullen or the Thigpen
I think 1 thing for sure is that we are stacked with talent on the O line and LB positions. We have no choice but to get better here. I wish I could say the same about our safety positions. With 4 qb's on the list I hope we squander a trade some where down the line. Thigpen or Pennington would probably be on the top of that list. I pretty much agree with the Scouts list. I couldn't really think of a good argument to say any different. I don't know enough about Incognito or Dimitri to argue that they should have been on the list above Jerry.
Incognito's played 3 seasons, so he didn't make the list. Not sure I could make an argument for or against Tsoumpas as I've not seen him play.
i agree that wake should be higher , but that could be a nice nucleus of players right there, all so young still with potential
It's difficult to make an argument that Jake Long is a "prospect", he is a two time pro bowler and not one of those who were tossed onto the roster after other people declined to participate in the game. For "prospects" you generally need players who haven't played or played sparingly: How does this "top 10" list sound: -LT Andrew Gardner -Wr Ryan Grice Mullen -Wr Julius Pruitt -Te Kory Sperry -Rb Tristan Davis -Rb Korey Sheets -G Dimitri Tsoumpas -Qb Pat White -S Tyrone Culver -S Chris Clemons Speed or size, each one of those players could easily make an impact in 2010. And we are a Lou Polite tweaked ankle away from Rolly Lumbala playing FB
Miami's young guns, there is a lot of good youth on this team. There is a lot of talent there and all they need is an intense desire to compete and to win to make this an exceptional team.
How is Jake Long considered a prospect? 2 ProBowls and one second team All-Pro and he is still a prospect? Well I cant wait until he finally lives up to his potential.
Didn't know Wake was 28 yrs. old. he needs to start before all his cartilage is gone...But yeah, "prospects"? Half that list are entrenched starters.
Nah, dude is low mileage, those two years out of football make a difference, or should. For fun, there should be a "Gamebreakers on Dolphins Roster" I doubt they get to 5...
I would take Jake Long off the list and just consider him to be bona fide perennial All Pro candidate. There may be a few better LTs, but not many. I would definitely put Langford on the list, and I would move Sean Smith down. He had a great preseason. Not so great in reg season. I am looking for him to really improve this season. Henne, Vontae, Bess, Odrick, Wake, Misi, Jerry, Hartline, Langford, then Smith. Still not a bad group of mostly first and second year players.
I agree. Heck, even the guy who created the article almost stated exactly that. So, if we're still going by the under 25 or under 3 years played, not counting Jake Long, here's my 10 prospects: 1. Chad Henne 2. Cameron Wake 3. Vontae Davis 4. Jared Odrick 5. Koa Misi 6. Davone Bess 7. Brian Hartline 8. John Jerry 9. Kendall Langford 10. Sean Smith Next two in line: 11. Dan Carpenter 12. Reshad Jones
Pro bowls do not mean a thing anymore as so many players drop out case in point...Jake Longs first season when he made the pro bowl only because Jason Peters dropped out. Jake is a great player regardless of pro bowls Lets not put all our eggs in a basket regarding a players worth because of a pro bowl nod
to me jake long should still be considered a prospect because the guy is still developing. i might get flamed but he is still a little stiff against speed rushers and his feet can be erratic at times getting out there and keeping them under him imo. no complaints though on jake. he just has a few things to work on stiil.
Now we all know that in 08 Peters was selected to the pro bowl ahead of Long, But he didn't have a better year. Hell he didn't even have a good year. In 2008 Peters gave up more than twice the sacks (13) that long has allowed in his first two seasons (6). In fact if we look at the amount of snaps in between allowing a sack peters is the worst Tackle over the last two years, allowing a League low one sack per 84.79 Snaps. Long deserved to be there. In two years he has only given up a total of 6 sacks. That and he is a mauler in the run game. That's impressive. No doubt Long is a stud and he hasn't reached his full potential yet. To much time on my hands I guess but here is a list of the top tackles (right and left) sorted by snaps per Sack (Higher value is better). *Only used tackles who played the majority of snaps for the last two years. [TABLE="headl width=70%"]Name|Team|Total Snaps|Snaps per Sack|08 & 09 sacks Orlando Pace|CHI|1529|764.50|2 Ryan Diem|IND|1956|652.00|3 Charlie Johnson|IND|1098|549.00|2 Jon Stinchcomb|NO|2111|527.75|4 David Stewart|TEN|2007|501.75|4 Mark Tauscher|GB|1233|411.00|3 Michael Roos|TEN|2042|408.40|5 Ryan Harris|DEN|1499|374.75|4 Jake Long|MIA|2148|358.00|6 Jared Gaither|BLT|1798|299.67|6 Ryan Clady|DEN|2175|271.88|8 Sean Locklear|SEA|1242|248.40|5 Tyson Clabo|ATL|2180|242.22|9 Kareem McKenzie|NYG|1693|241.86|7 Ray Willis|SEA|1614|230.57|7 Joe Thomas|CLV|2006|222.89|9 Vernon Carey|MIA|2130|213.00|10 Nick Kaczur|NE|1897|210.78|9 Sam Baker|ATL|1196|199.33|6 Marc Colombo|DAL|1591|198.88|8 D'Brickashaw Ferguson|NYJ|2137|194.27|11 Damien Woody|NYJ|2033|184.82|11 Marcus McNeill|SD|1815|181.50|10 Kevin Shaffer|CHI|1258|179.71|7 David Diehl|NYG|2154|165.69|13 Willie Colon|PIT|2149|165.31|13 Donald Penn|TB|2121|163.15|13 Jeremy Trueblood|TB|2113|162.54|13 Bryant McKinnie|MIN|1892|157.67|12 Matt Light|NE|1720|156.36|11 Eric Winston|HST|2161|154.36|14 Jeff Otah|CAR|1543|154.30|10 Branden Albert|KC|1846|153.83|12 Mario Henderson|OAK|1379|153.22|9 Flozell Adams|DAL|2128|152.00|14 Jeromey Clary|SD|1587|144.27|11 Jordan Gross|CAR|1435|143.50|10 Chad Clifton|GB|1697|141.42|12 Alex Barron|SL|2021|134.73|15 Cornell Green|OAK|1730|133.08|13 Max Starks|PIT|1836|131.14|14 Anthony Collins|CIN|776|129.33|6 Gosder Cherilus|DET|1785|127.50|14 Joe Staley|SF|1502|125.17|12 Mike Gandy|ARZ|1842|122.80|15 Stephon Heyer|WAS|1459|121.58|12 Jeff Backus|DET|2090|116.11|18 John St. Clair|CLV|1859|109.35|17 Duane Brown|HST|1914|106.33|18 Levi Brown|ARZ|2117|105.85|20 Barry Sims|SF|1124|102.18|11 Levi Jones|WAS|1162|96.83|12 Adam Snyder|SF|1219|93.77|13 Jason Peters|PHI|1611|84.79|19[/TABLE]
I would'nt take another left tackle in the league strait up for Jake right now, and would'nt think twice about it.
It's funny how many analysts tout Clady, yet looking at these metrics Long is clearly better in the pass protection game through their first 2 seasons. Long is a beast and a model NFL player. So happy he's a dolphin. He means a great deal to our offensive success.
