If less than 35 yards and 2 TDs' means Shut-Down ... then I would say yes... PS, if BM has 1-2 TDs per game, would you consider him Shut-Downed???
PS17 he didn't even hold Ginn to 35 Yards. Revis is money in the bank bud. Perhaps the best in the game but last year he played out of his mind. An equally fare question that would help answer this one is do you think he will maintain that level for the rest of his career?
Interestingly enough, Brandon Marshall has only faced the Jets once in his 4 year career, in 2008. In that game he managed 5 catches for 55 yards, his third lowest output of that season. I'd like to think that he'll be looking for some payback from that game, especially since he seems to play better when he's facing someone from within his division.
He got beat by Ginn on one deep ball. Only time he got beat deep all year. I do think he will maintain his elite level until at least 32 years old or so. His work ethic is second to none, and he has openly expressed his desire to be the best of all time. Kid is real special. Now onto some of the WRs held to 35 yards or less last year by Revis: -Andre Johnson -Randy Moss x2 -Terrell Owens x2 -Steve Smith -Chad Ochocinco x2 ----- Surely Henne to Marshall isn't better than Schaub to Johnson, correct?
Revis 2008 and 2009 were night and day. He was still a Pro Bowler in '08 but didn't come close to the level he played at in '09.
That's a fair point, but who's to say that 2009 season wasn't an aberration and Revis plays well, just not lights out like last year? I'm sure there are WRs out there right now trying to solve him. You have to look at Revis's career as a whole, not just one year. Same for Marshall. Regarding the history between the two, for me past performance is the best indicator of future results ... hence why I cited the game in 2008 as a source for my vote.
35 yards is ridiculous......one catch and one broken tackle and he could get that. your setting yourself up big time.
You make good points. I think Revis has significantly improved, however, since his last meeting with B-Marsh [and Marshall still had a below average game for his standards]. You say there are WRs out there trying to solve him and I'm sure that is true. This doesn't mean it will become reality. It remains to be seen what will happen. I do think he will continue his elite play in 2009, and won't fall off one bit. The only way I think he can improve is if he makes more picks. He dropped at least 2 blatant interceptions last year that hit him in the hands.
Take a look at the list. Again, Marshall is not better than Andre Johnson, and Henne is not better than Schaub right now.
Revis is a fine player but how the Dolphins handle the pressure brought about by the front seven will tell the tale. Henne had great protection, stepped up in the pocket and threw a pretty ball to Ginn who had 3 steps on Revis AND 2 other Jets....but they were in a Quarters defense and didnt bring much pressure. And they paid in the form of a 53 yard TD pass. I dont think Marshall is held to less than 35 yards in a game all year.
That's my point Bro one mistake and he breaks 35 yards. Expecting him to hold every reciever he meets to 35 yards are less is an extremely lofty goal. I also have no doubt that he is indeed special. But everyone get's beat from time to time. Last year showed the world how good he could be. Time will tell though if he can maintain it. Out of all the combination's QB/WR he was able to stop it was Schaub/Johnson that stands out the most and the one that out of the list shown is the most relevant to this comparison. It's going to be fun to watch for the next several years and I for one am looking forward to it.
As if football is a joust, I don't really care about Revis or Marshall for that matter, all I care about is winning. I do think if the Jets try the 8 men in the box bit Marshall will have a good game.
Good post. You are right; awfully high standards Jets fans are holding Revis to. But he is that good that it is merited. I look forward to the battles as well. A lot.
Yeah but Tony Sparano, Dan Henning, Mike Nolan, David Lee, etc. are better than Houston's coaching staff.
Revis is absolutely nasty as hell, I'm looking forward to watching those 2 square off. That said, I don't think Marshall will be held under 35 yards a game. I don't think he will completely dominate Revis, or the other way around, but I think it will be an ok day. I could see something like 4 catches for 70 yards and a td. It's the Dolphins vs the Jets, I'm sure Marshall will get amped for it.
I think we'll see it go both ways. Big catches from Marshall, big picks/deflections from Revis. Henne isn't seasoned enough yet to not make the little mistakes every once in a while. Being that Marshall will likely become Henne's favorite target, he'll toss quite a few balls his way and I think we'll see some outstanding plays on both sides. As a dolphins fan, I have to say no, I don't think he'll shut Marshall down, but heck who knows, and it's going to be fun to watch for sure
Revis is the only CB i could see that could "shut down" Marshall. That said, he might get him one game, but I don't think he'll be able to pull it off both games this year. It really all just depends on how Henne clicks with Marshall. If they're finishing each others sentences, I don't see Marshall getting shut down. Slowed down sure, definitely, but not shut down.
Well can you tell me how many games did TO, Johnson, Moss, Smith, Ocho Cinco had for under 40 yds last year, outside of Revis Island??? I will confessed, I checked.. Well Johnson, had his lowest game of 35 yds against the Jets... Nice job by Revis, if that was the scheme... Moss had 2 games where he was held to 24 and 34 by Revis... but did you know that Carolina held him to 1 catch for 16 yards... Is this Carolina CB better or as good as Revis??? TO was held to less than 40 yds, 6 times in 2009...Revis held him to 13 and 31 yards...but he was held to 40 or less in 4 other games...Carolina to 27, Houston to 39, KC to 15 and NE to 20 yards... Are these other CBs as good as Revis??? Steve Smith was held to 40 yards or less in 5 games last year... Revis held him to 5 yds, Tampa held him to 4, Philly to 21, Dallas to 31, and Atlanta to 24 yds... Are all these CB as good as Revis too??? Chad Ochocinco was held to less than 40 yds in 7 games last year... Revis shut him out once, then held him to 28 yards, but Cleveland also held him to 24 and 38, Pitt to 29, Minny to 27 and KC also held him to 31 yards... So can these other CBs be as good as Revis??? Hopefully everyone can see the picture I am displaying, and if PS17 is basing his analysis that only Revis can hold these WR to a few dozen yards, well it happens a few other times to other CBs in the NFL... All-rightee then... I am not debating that Revis is not good, but he is a heck of a shut down CB, but there are big receivers that are NOT physical for the ball (Rany Moss comes to mind alot), TO was mentoioned in the Phins game that he was not challenging the DB's... but BM is one that according to many thrives on contact, and don't get intimidated like other # 1 WR do... One thing PS17 it will be an interesting Season... and last year, we had no stellar WR and the record was still Fins 2 Jets 0... So Revis did not make a difference in the outcome between our games last year, at least if he did in the scoring, he kept it close...
Playing in the AFC West, and playing in the AFC East are two totally different things.....in the West there is nothing, rivalries of the past so to speak, In the East you have the Pats, which until somebody beats them, they are the team to beat, I dont care what happened in the playoffs.....then you have the Jets who, on paper, have the most talented team.....Miami is climbing the moutain, and going in the right direction.....those 3 teams interchanged is the game of the week IMO, and exciting contemporay rivalries to boot.....not some old rehash of so called ones like the Bears/Packers..... That being said Brandon has never been called out, besides Porter, yeah maybe some trash talk here and there, but nothing of meaning, cuz the rivalries were meaningless.....I CANNOT WAIT until Rex calls out Brandon, because you just know it is coming.....that kid is a loose cannon to begin with, and then Rex is going to call him out, or somebody else like Scott...I pray it happens...please please please call out the beast.....
I'm obviously biased, but, I said Revis won't hold Marshall to under 35 yards a game. Revis is amazing... so is Brandon Marshall. We shall see. However, I couldn't care less about how many yards Marshall has at the end of the day. Brandon Marshall is only 1 player. While Revis is capable of shutting any receiver down, he certainly can't cover all of our WRs, and he certainly can't stop Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams.
Marshall / Revis < 35yds? To be fair, a talent like Revis in the dbackfield, you could get away with giving up 55 or less; 35 is way too low a figure. Anything less than 100 against Marshall is a win for Revis.
Agree also... EDITED-...but in actuality BM has caught for 3,710 yards (46 games) the last 3 seasons... that equals to a little over 80 yards per game, so in essence you only need 62.5 yards per game to reach the 1,000 yds plateu... If a Receiver is having a 100 yards day, he is having a career day...
It really depends on your definition of 'shuts him down'. At 35 yrds, no, even the great Darelle Revis won't shut him down, however, that doesn't mean I think he'll have his best days against Revis.....Besides, Rexy will dial up crazy blitzes and schemes to give Revis as much help as possible. The thing is, Marshalls' expertise is more of short stuff turned in to lots of YACs. That gives Revis and the jest defense an edge as they excel in covering that short stuff...but less than 35 yrds...don't think so...
Is this a serious question??? Come on PS17, You can't actually believe that Revis can shut down The Beast of the East!
Couldn't care less about individual matchups. A win is a win and they all count the same. That said, hell no he's not gonna hold Marshall to under 35...
There should be a maybe option. Less than 35 yards BOTH times? I'd be surprised, because of how physical Marshall is. I'd say he could hold him to like 45 yards one game, and that first game he could get like 85.
That could partially be up to Jason Taylor...please oh please let Ricky and Ronnie burn the Jets. I'm not a JT hater but I do not want to see him or any Jets play well against us.
That and their blitz packages were a unknown in Week 1, there was no way to really prepare for them, this year there is plenty of film on what the Jets D does, in the NFL very very few teams can maintain a schematic advantage for more than a season or two.
The one time that Marshall faced Revis he had five catches for 55 yards. Even if it was Revis rookie year Marshall had a pretty decent game against him.
