Just thinking about this. Next year we all expect to have a different team come hell or high water. We have the #1 pick and we should take the best player. Mcfadden would be that pick right now. originally I suggested trading ronnie for a pick, but maybe not. Why not have both? Of course the salary hit is something to figure in, but with Ronnie and Mcfadden, and Ginn, Beck we might have something special Imagine a two back set for almost ever down. One could block and one could run screen routes or quick outs while Ginn goes deep. Draft or BUY a #1 WR this offseason and we have the ability to run or pass every down with success. What do you think of that? Ronnie has proven to not be durable for 16 games already, make booker a #3 receiver and upgrade the offense. Rest of the draft should be spent on Defensive Shut down corners, and some free agents and a defensive end.
Any logical person would say that looks like a good plan, but Cams playbook has two plays in it. The fake end around to Ginn and the 5 yard dump to the RB. Until he gets more creative I dont see that happening.
I think maybe a logical person would have a big fullback like Mauia staying in to block instead of wasting the talents of ronnie brown or darren mcfadden by having them do something that Mauia is much better suited to do. Since it less money for a bigger blocker, you get more bang for your back.
Because it would be an enormous waste of resources and cap space for something that essentially would be a gimmick formation? In that formation, Ronnie Brown would have to play fullback. You'd be paying a guy in the middle of a 5 year, 35 million dollar contract to lead block for someone, when that's not what he is good at. That's also that McFadden has not lit the world on fire as a receiver or blocker, so he'd be limited in what he can do, and would limit Brown. Oh ya, and he'd cost more than the 6 year, 61 million dollar contract Jamarcus Russell got.
Well, Ronnie is an excellent blocker, and he can make up for McFadden's weaknesses and McFadden could make up for Ronnie's by being out on the field for every game for us..... And McFadden would give Fans a reason to come out to the stadium...ahheem....not every fan is an inside football type.. As far as the price tag, we are under the cap already, if we trade JT and send MBooker down the road, we will be further under it already.
Regardless of WHO we get it will cost us more than that. Ronnie has prove in 3 years he's not going to be durable enough to last a season. We need the ability to get the ball out QUICKLY with a rookie QB. How do you do that? You use screens, and short crossing routes. You have to be creative some to make them both usable on each play but Im telling you we have to change something and get ourselves a gimmick. Besides everyone who does something new like an empty backfield and 5 wide was once called a gimmick. Now it's done by alot of teams.. Mcfadden would give us a player who is FAST, game breaker and can RUN, CATCH and PASS the ball in short down situations..
Yeah, a gimmick. That's what we need!! Forget this silly old offense that Cam runs, where'd he come up with it anyway? A crackerjack box?
See, the mistake you are making is that you think the Dolphins should be actually "fun" to watch, that is a mistake, we must forever design teams that can only win 13-10 or 17-14. Wanny Ball lives apparently.
That's right, this offensive system could never possibly produce the number 1 offense in the league....I don't understand why anyone would like it.
Any offense can be #1 in the league with the proper talent to man the positions.. Much better to run off tackle 3 times and punt, it is a proven winning strategy..besides, I like the thought of Feeley kicking 6 times a game...
inFINSible, i understand where your coming from but your making light or acting like what I suggesting is plain stupid when history proves it is not. Now im not saying the design I have is set in stone im tossing out an idea. Lets look back at some formations that were GIMMICKS and now commonly used with good success. Im also not asking for the harlem Globtrotters on the football field either but you need the fans to be into the game as well. 1. Pittsburg employed SLASH as a HB/QB for a few seasons musch like I would think we us Mcfadden 2. New England goes into the 5 wide alomst every game now. Once that was a gimmick 3. Design the defense / offensive lineman to have all smaller faster players on the line ALA Denver. Now you see that everwhere What Im saying is the leauge is full of copycats once someone finds somethign that's new and or works. So we don't have a prototypical Fullback in the game for a few downs Hows it been working out for us the last few games with him in there? When I saw gimmmick I mean an Offensive scheme build around OUR talent, not forcing squares into holes. The gimmick would be using our talents to garner some leverage over traditional offensive schemes.
I'm with InFINS, you pick the player that fits your system not change your system to fit the player. That's madness.
Exactly.... I see McFadden's real value as a insurance policy for Ronnie who "may be" a better scorer and he upgrades the talent on offense more then anyone in the draft right now appears to be able too. Our defense is bad, but so is our offense INOW. If we don't draft McF, my heart won't be broken, but we need to keep in mind that the offense needs help as much as the defense does.
Gimmicks work when the defense is not playing assignment football. Gimmicks work when the defense is doing something DIFFERENT to stop what you do well. We don't have gimmicks cause we don't do anything well. Execution is something everyone wants for our coach. Execution is not on the Dolphins offense.
Now putting in plays to take advantage of talent on your team is different than the premise you started this thread with. the title of the thread is... You said.... you also said.... This doesn't require that we draft McFadden. We'd be much better off using Mauia, who IS a blocker, than wasting the talent (and the cap space) of Ronnie Brown to do something that Mauia is BETTER at doing. Or is it that you feel the 215 lb Mcfadden would be a better blocker than the 270 lb Mauia? I certainly hope he would because he'd cost about 10 times as much.
That's one hell of a premium! As long as RB is on the roster, McFadden is nothing but a redundancy. he doesn't improve the offense one bit because there aren't two balls for the offense to use. Draft McFadden and keep RB, and for the entire season you'll have a giant chunk of our salary cap sitting on the bench doing nothing. I'm sorry but, to me, that is asinine, especially considering that capable back-up running backs are a dime a dozen....and this is all without even considering that we also have another running back already on the roster that's better than both Ronnie and Mcfadden.
Ronnie's injury history *virtually* guarantees that McF won't be sitting for long, if at all, and there would be no drop off in performance between the two backs. Ronnie only has 2 years left on his contract, it is a good idea to have his replacement in place while we have such a high draft choice to do that with.
Ronnie Brown isnt an excellent lead blocker. He's not done it often, and that's basically the primary responsibility of a fullback nowadays. And it's not even remotely close to a given that McFadden is going to be able to stay healthy in the league. He's a 6'2" 205 pound runningback who runs upright. That's a potential problem. Honestly, I could really give a rats ***. Drafting to get the fans out there is a terrible idea, because you know what REALLY gets the fans out there, and consistently? Winning. Cap management is still an issue, even if you're under it. We're not in a position to tie up such a huge portion at a non-complementary position.
A good o-line virtually guarantees that there won't be much of a drop off between running backs. I would much rather see Clady play for 10-12 years at left tackle than spend 60 million on an insurance policy. Why don't we just replace Ronnie Brown with a proven NFL running back like say......Ronnie Brown! I hear he'll be available around that same time.
If Clady grades out I would have -0- problem taking him #1. Which brings up another sunny point, Vern Carey's contract is up the same time as RB's is, 2009, his play at LT will earn him a fat contract as well. Maybe another point for Ryan Clady being drafted... Proven to miss at least three games? Definetely....
Good, at least we found some common ground there. What's the over/under on how many games a season the smaller McFadden will miss?
