Sparano is messin up with his mancrush on Pat Cobbs

Maybe QB's that have a realistic shot at ever being more than a back up, one that everyone is not praying that he never sees the field.

Cobb may never be a star or even a starter..... but he's not going down as one of the Fins biggest draft blunders in history, either.

And yeah, you're damn right he was a mistake..... from the very beginning.

NO ONE........takes midget, spread QB's at #44 over all. There's a reason for that..

Oh wait, let me stop, I heard Pat White is getting upset. Wouldn't want him to twitter....


Sorry, back to Cobbs

Don't read too much into what Sparano says about Cobbs......hell he's probably just hoping he hasn't lost a step. Much ado about nothing, IMO.

 

neither is Pat White. He is going to have to work very hard to beat out Bosa.

 

not the first time sparano expressed love for cobbs
remember last offseason

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/08/12/0812dolphins_notebook.html

i like what cobbs brings us as a 3rd down back but i have to agree it would be a disaster if we had to rely on him to run between the tackles. not real fond of him as a KR either
i hope they keep hilliard again. he did a nice job on special teams last season and is a better option if we get in a situation to have to use him as an every down back.
doesnt solve the KR issue but hey sparano is stubborn and once digs in well....
i would like to see hartline get a chance to return punts but bess is tony's man apparently.... on a different note

 

You bolded the part where I said "likely"............yet still somehow missed it.

 

You do not know that

 

Can we give up on Cobbs and Bess as returners already? Just because they are "shifty" or "quick" doesn't mean they are "fast" and all we're doing is giving up field advantage any time one of these lead boots wearing returners gets the ball. Bess even fumbled a few punts so it's not like he's back there for sure-handedness. I swear if one of them gets run down from behind by a linebacker again (Bess) I'm going to lose it...Ok rant off.

 

Sheets is intriguing, but untested. Guys like him float in and out of TCs every season, on every team.

Hopefully he can package his speed with some real football ability and stick; it would be nice to have someone that fast as an option in the backfield. But he's a long-shot.

Hilliard? When Ronnie and Cobbs went down last season and Ricky broke under the weight of the bulk of the carries, Lex had a golden opportunity to step up and shine - and didn't.

I've been saying this since the season ended, but Running Back could go from the strength of the team in terms of talent and depth last offseason to an alarming dearth of options by season's end if injuries hit as hard as last season. Not to mention that Ronnie and Ricky are both free agents after 2010.

 

He already has

 

That first part is true. Cobbs is also one of those players. I do not know what Cobbs has done to prove to be an "irreplaceable" guy. Cobbs is going to have to fight for his job and Sheets is someone who can take it from him.

I agree about Hilliard. He didn't prove to be irreplaceable either.

 

What an awful, awful post. Cobbs is a great all around player. He's a special teams ace, a chance of pace back, and probably our best receiving threat out of the backfield. He does it all. And you want to get rid of him? For guys like Sheets and Hilliard, who have proven so much in this league... Wait, no they haven't.

 

Cobbs is a multi-function back and TS knows that he could develop into something special. Personally I am still mourning the loss of Jalen Parmalee, who I thought was a better pure runner than Cobbs. Time will tell for both of these guys. While I like Cobbs and Hillard I wish Parmalee was still on the roster, the kid was fast and had great moves.

 

Iam not sure what his role will be this year, we know he cant return kicks effectively, he does'nt have the quickness you want in a third down back, and I dont see many carries left over after ronnie and ricky are pounding fools..being in involved in the wildcat and playing on defensive special teams may not be enough...will see ya know, if Kory does'nt step up then he'll make it.

 

load of crap. When we lost Cobbs, the WC took a serious hit. Cobbs provided multiple big, unexpected plays and was a sparkplug for our offense (when he was healthy). Not sure where this bashing of Cobbs is coming from. totally agree with Tony here.

 

once again, your perspective is skewed. The better question to ask is of the playoff teams last year, how many had 3rd/4th running backs better than Patrick Cobbs?

 

The same Pat White that couldn't complete a single pass through 15 games and then with an entire quarter all to himself in week 17, still couldn't manage to complete a pass before being taken off the field unconscious on a stretcher? That Pat White? Yeah, he's capable of playing at a high level.

If I was given the ability to cut players, I would dump White in a heartbeat and hold onto my solid 3rd RB & solid special teamer over an undersized #3 QB who can't complete a pass and doesn't contribute to special teams.

 

I just don't understand the adoration for Lex Hilliard.

Like Cobbs, he's a nice special teams player. But Hilliard's Ronnie/Ricky Lite, meaning he's a player of similar style and dimensions, but not as good. A guy that weighs 240 pounds shouldn't go down so easy IMO. He seems more of a momentum guy than someone who's physical and runs people over.

My point is that he doesn't give you anything different.

I remember Cobbs lining up in the slot against Baltimore in '08 and catching a deep pass over the middle. 5 catches for 64 yards that day. That was one week after he caught 3 for 138 against Houston. That's an added dimension Lex Hilliard doesn't give you. Will Kory Sheets? I'd like to find out. I'd like to see that guy as the Wildcat and returning kicks.

As for the sweep against NYJ, name me one running back who hasn't been hit for a loss on a sweep in this league. It happens. Cobbs isn't the fastest player, and we need speed in the KR role. But getting dropped on that play just means he doesn't have elite speed, which we already knew.

 

^this

 

Padre is messin up with his linking to his post in the comments section of the article instead of the article itself.

That being said, Cobbs > Hilliard. Cobbs is a great 3rd back. He's great running the ball, he's great catching the ball, and he's great on special teams. I don't want either of them returning kicks. I'd think that either RGM or Sheets wins that job this year barring someone popping up in TC.

 

Im shocked that this discussion has gone on for so long. If Pat Cobbs is healthy, he's on the team, period. And its not a mistake, IMO it'd be criminally incompetent to have Pat White on the roster and a healthy Pat Cobbs off of itbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbnmm13433asdfgj. Cobbs is gonna give you some WC snaps, KO/Punt coverage, KO team, and he's a serviceable 3rd string RB. Pat White is not an NFL player. Not saying he will never be one, but the amount of enerygy, practice time etc that it would take to (maybe) make him an effectivce weapon is simply not worth it. Not when youre trying to develop a young QB and youve got the leagues best WC tandem already. If you want cut Cobbs in favor of Hilliard, I disagree, Cobbs is the better/more versatile player. Sheets, Ive seen him on the field for all of one play at the pro level so I dont know how anyone can offer an educated opinion there. Either way, its a 3rd string running back, and if it becomes a major issue during the season, then something has gone terribly wrong.

 

I think people may be underestimating the value of versatility. Thats a role that Cobbs embraces, and on a team that will always be scheme-based, its highly valued.

 

thats a good point.

 

Coaches will always a prefer a guy that can anything they ask over someone who can do one or two things well, and they have to plan around.

 

Just plain incorrect. 1 star

 

Cobbs have been in the NFL for 6 years, he is developed

 

That always depends on how well the one person can do that one thing well

 

Presason hasnt even started.. As Far as I am concerned all this is TALK to build up players.. Once the games begin we will see what he really thinks..

 

This is a good point.

And to build on it, I think we have to also take the practice week into account. Oneo of the things that Sparano loves about Cobbs is that he practices full speed. Every single thing he does in practice is with the same speed and intensity of the games.

That makes you and everyone around you better.

Think about the role of the scout team. Each week, they attempt to emulate the other team's looks and style for the defense. I don't know how many reps Pat Cobbs gets in these situations, but being highly versatile would certainly be a great asset here.

 

So faulk and Edwards must have been mistakes on those Pats superbowl champion teams.

 

What does that matter? Oh, that's right, nothing at all. Cobbs reminds me of Kevin Faulk. Would you not want Kevin Faulk on your team? Cobbs is also a ST ace. Would you prefer us going back to the days of giving up a return TD every game? No, I'm quite sure wouldn't. Cobbs does it all, and isn't going anywhere.