Ricky Williams - 9 seasons Yeremiah Bell - 7 Vern Carey - 7 Ronnie Brown - 6 Channing Crowder - 6 Jason Allen - 5 Will Allen - 5 Everybody else on the roster has been with the team 4 years or less. That's some serious turnover.
ricky hasn't been with the team for 9 seasons, its been only 6 and thats including the year where he only played in one game because he was injured.
His first year as a Dolphin was 2002. I'm counting 2010. If we discount 2006 (he played no games), its 8 seasons. Any way you cut it, this is his 9th season as a Dolphin.
I've always been fond of Ricky. Very glad that he is still a part of the team. I hope he stays another 3 years.
While there's been huge turnover, It's hard to argue with keeping all those players around. And I can't think of many that we let go of that I'd have traded for those guys
Well, he retired for one year (2004), was suspended for one year (2006) and returned for one game in (Nov. 2007) then injured for the rest of the season ?? Somehow that doesn't add up to 9 seasons with the Fins... EDIT: Sorry Finsarelife, fat fingers...this reply meant for Gardenhead...but you got the point already...LOL
Well, he retired for one year (2004), was suspended for one year (2006) and a 7 weeks and returned for one game in (Nov. 2007) then injured for the rest of the season ?? Somehow that doesn't add up to 9 seasons with the Fins...
If they just figure out where to play him and let him do that job...fine...I happen to agree with you, but all the bouncing around the secondary he's done has screwed with this kids' head. One of the knocks on him coming out of college was his smarts (he was considered a slow learner)...well we proceed to move him from position to position (after his first year, where he played pretty well and in his old college coaches system)... I hope it's not too late for him to establish himself here, but time is growing slim for him...
Training camp has not even started for 2010 so be careful not to jinx him. He's played 5 seasons here and one in toronto in 2006.
Yea, he played in another league, while he was suspended from the NFL, while still under contract to Miami.
he played elsewhere in 2006. His tenure is tainted by suspensions and missed seasons. He played 5 seasons and was injured for one....
Not just tenure with the Dolphins, but our team turnover has helped us get young, big, and athletic. I like it
They count 2007. It was one game, he had a few carries before he was stepped on. 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009 -6. And it seems they count 2006, while he was suspended he was technically still a member of the Dolphins even though he didn't play at all. Technicality doesn't matter though, we've been following him since 2002!
I count 7. If we are going by contract years, which we should. Because even if he was injured he was still part of our team.
LOL he was an argonaut in 2006. Suspended by the NFL which meant he did not get paid a dime by the Dolphins...
And of those players how many could you see another team giving us a 1st or 2d round pick for in a trade? Maybe Ronnie if he didn't have his injury history. Only other maybe would be Vern Carey but even if he was 2 or 3 years younger I doubt another would give up a high pick for him. Still a year or two away from SB contention IMO, we need the core of young draftees from the least 3 drafts to season and gel.
i dont see how you count this season because it hasn't happened yet....regardless, the way i remember it is that his first year he had over 1800 yrds, second year over 1300 yrds, he then retired. His first year back he had over 700 yrds, then was suspended. His first year back again he had 15 yrds, the next he had over 600 yrds and this past season over 1,100 yrds. Its complicated, yes i know my mind is odd. However, anyway you add it up it makes 6 seasons.
BOT, I believe it is called rebuilding. And the trifecta seems to be doing a heckuva job of it so far!
yes, that is why we retained him when he un-retired. the Dolphins held his rights until the end of his contract.
held his rights does not mean under contract... anyway why am i joining in this unnecessary debate?!?!
The CBA dictated that his rights were retained by the Fins when he 'retired', not any decision made by the Fins brass. At any rate, it made business sense for his rights to be retained. Remember part of that was due to the judgment against him for the $8m that was awarded to the Fins. If they had released him (which at the time that may very well been their inclination), they would have forfeited that judgment. As it turned out, a different regime re-upped his contract and the judgment was erased, but it was, at the time, a reason for retaining his rights. That and the fact that he was still young enough and still a good enough player to keep on, if he got his head screwed on right. He has since then... I guess technically he has been 'tenured' the longest of the players, but in reality, he has only played the 6 seasons...in the minds of fans, he just isn't looked at in that light...Think about it, in 2008 who was excited about Ricky having a comeback ?? No one thought he'd be anything more than a 2nd back for Brown... Well, guess what, that's all he is today... Last year, he stepped in for Brown but was breaking down by the end of the season...Father Time had caught up with him... I look at him like John Denny... been our LS for what will be 6 seasons this year, but he's just another cog...not a major piece...
I officially hate this thread and regret posting it. My point was to discuss how much turnover we've had, not start a nit-picky debate about how many years Ricky's been a Dolphin.
Well, I officially hate that you went as far as to add in 2010 just to add more to his tenure..lol I like Ricky now, but he was willing to do things to jepordize this franchise, and not only that but it cost them dearly to aquire him. Trading for him brought us an exciting player that had one great year, and a bunch of missed time....
Had Ricky stayed in 2004, Wanny would have been here longer. Not saying it got much better when he left, but where would this team be today if Ricky never retired? And further more, where would Ricky be today had he not retired? Ricky leaving was a necessary catalyst for changes in Miami.
Think of Ricky, in 2004, as a car that was gettin beaten up daily, and overheating. His body needed time to cool down, and he took the necessary time off to heal. Yea he was facing suspensions and all that stuff, but he was also being rode into the ground by Wannstedt.
If we are talking all time Dolphins I think Jim Jensen holds the record at 12 years. http://www.jimjensen11.com/
So what if he would have been here longer. They might have actually been a good team with Ricky in 2004 instead they sucked because he left.
Think of it using the truth. Ricky had the green light to take himself out of any game, at any time. Ricky was just as guilty for staying in games as Wanny was at running him more and more when he was in....
