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~The OFFICIAL 2010 NBA Playoffs Thread~

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by GISH, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    LOL you guys are obviously more passionate about this than I am.

    I just said the last couple calls were in the Celtics favor, just like that ball out on Odom should've been a foul on Rondo.

    again LOL
     
  2. padre31

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    Pft, and when the lakers had a 15 foul advantage at home, it was "refs call games differently on home courts".

    I'm just waiting for Hulk Hogan to come off of the top rope
     
  3. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

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    Maybe Pierce shoulda kept his mouth shut.
     
  4. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    wow Ray Allen 0-13 wtf
     
  5. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Not arguing that I would argue the ball out on KG when Kobe smacked it out of his hands.

    I love basketball I'd love even more if the Refs didn't dictate the god damn game. Kobe having free reign is god damn ridiculous.
     
  6. Zeke0123

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    No one has gotten away with more bull**** than Rondo...Refs shmefs better team won tonite...they didnt have an answer for Fisher for crisakes.
     
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  7. padre31

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    I'm more or less in agreement about caring about this stuff, but I also think the way the NBA Refs run things is a stain on that game.

    I used to be a Hornets fan until I caught unto how the NBA works.

    Now I find it more or less a scrimmage or pro wrestling..:chuckle: worthy
     
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Derek Fisher. The real MVP.
     
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  9. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Uhh Kobe anyone?

    Boston did what the Lakers do with Rondo they leave him open. Fischer can actually shoot.
     
  10. Boik14

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    Not really. The Celtics style of play is hurting them. The celtics play a physical game and the refs are calling the series relatively close. Thats going to favor the Lakers but not by design. It doesnt help the Celtics that the Lakers are blocking shots in record numbers because its creating a lot of scrambles and loose ball fouls.

    But Pau does flop like a fish out of water....that there is no disputing. He always did but hes gotten better at it. :yes:

    Instead of blaming the refs for the 15 foul discrepancy, blame the celtics for committing the fouls. Just because you didnt see the fouls doesnt mean they didnt happen. Im not even a Laker fan; shoot I cant stand Kobe but i find the complaining funny.

    Rondo is the shortest guy out there and hes getting away with more hacks then anyone; like that no call when hacked odom with under aminute to go that caused odom to lose possession.
     
  11. padre31

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    Oh please, so do tell, why aren't replays showed of the fouls?

    Or the big plays such as Baby Davis being packed twice under the rim?

    There is no problem showing things like Kobe with a great running floater, but somehow those foul calls are never replayed for viewers?

    Why would one suppose that is Boik?

    Now I will grant that Ray Allen going 0-13 and PP having a bad shooting night is more or less the cause of the Celts loss, however the larger point, the NBA uses Refs as a means of controlling games is not disputable.
     
  12. Boik14

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    First of all, if you cant see them then try listening for some of them because theyre plainly visible bro. Second of all, with all the hacking going on the game would double in length if they showed replays of each foul. Basketball is a game of constant movement...showing replays of fouls would not only bore the snot out of me and be flat out unnecessary but it would disturb the pace of the game. Plus the NBA wants to showcase the highlights...does the NFL show a replay on each holding call? No.

    Your point about NBA refs controlling games is funny. Conspiracy theories 101. Youre a good dude Padre but Im sorry Im not even debating this.
     
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  13. Samphin

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    The complaining about the refs is hilarious. ESPECIALLY from Heat fans who are probably the biggest beneficiaries of NBA Finals calls since Jordan ruled the roost.

    Lots of fouls tonight, and a few missed calls (for both teams), but overall, you can't blame the refs because the team you wanted to win didn't. Blame Ray Allen for not hitting one shot, or Paul Pierce for looking very pedestrian. Rajon cooled off after his awesome game two performance and KG's effort was wasted in a loss ( I am interested to see how he does in game four).

    Fisher was the fourth quarter MVP and deserves a ton of credit for putting the team on his back and finishing. He is making his case for no longer being called Robbery Horry-lite...but for Robert Horry to be called Derek Fisher-lite.

    And Bynum's presence really is being dismissed. He is blocking shots left and right, pulling down rebounds and scoring when he needs to. He was missing in 2008 and is obvious that when he is in the game, the Celtics are having problems keeping up with him. I would love to see more of the offense go through him going forward.

    Fun, close game tonight, had me up and down throughout.

    I can't wait for Thursday.
     
  14. BuckeyeKing

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    Wrong Lakers are the more physical team and it shows. They call a bunch of ticky tack calls and get the starts out of the game. Kobe Bryant didn't get a foul till what about 6 mins left in the 4th?? 1 foul the whole game? Seems like they made up for foul plauged Bryant in Game 2 to do whatever he wanted.

    Fischer was the MVP for the Lakers tonight he got hacked and made CLUTCH shots.

    I'm just really sick of the officials ruining this series.
     
  15. High Definition

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    :lol:
     
  16. High Definition

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    Please... as if the old school Lake Show didn't get the calls EVERY night, and as if Shaq didn't cheat in the paint on every possession (rarely ever called for it) throughout the three-peat run.

    Lakers fans are really the ONE group of fans that can never complain about the refs. NOT Heat fans because of ONE SERIES of controversial calls. Your franchise has a HISTORY of being the beneficiary.

    I'm tired of defending the Heat now. With the Heat, you're talking one player... one superstar. Dwyane Wade got those calls. Miami didn't get any controversial calls aside from Wade in that series at all, much like what goes on with Kobe, LeBron, Durant, etc.

    What we're seeing here isn't Kobe Bryant getting superstar calls. We're seeing an entire team get the calls.
     
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    Honestly, Game 2 heavily favored the Lakers. Tonight, there was a slight bump in favor of the Lakers during that stretch where they couldn't even buy a good look, but bought every call... it was pretty bad on both ends. I mean, we saw three straight possessions where an official stood in front of the play as it happened, ruled the wrong team possession, then had to correct it via replay.

    These officials are ****ing trash overall and as a viewer, that has ruined my ENTIRE experience.

    If I was a "casual" NBA fan I would seriously not watch basketball next season, but unfortunately I'm trapped.
     
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  18. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Exactly. Gasol has gotten Superstar type calls and I'm scratching my head why? He is a solid player but Kobe caliber calls???

    KG punked him tonight. KG looked fresh so what ever they shot him up with is working.

    Also its amazing Ray Allen could not buy a bucket. I'm also waiting for Pierce to rear his primadonna head and do something other than looking like a bum.
     
  19. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    the celtics are so wildly inconsistent. if all 4 guys could just score decently, they would have no problem. two guys do well, the other two disappear. its amazing
     
  20. Boik14

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    how you can call the lakers the more physical team when their bigs are widely viewed as soft and to a degree a label that is deserved is beyond me. Just does not compute. Boston is the team that all the analysts praise relentlessly for their gritty hard nosed style. Well unfortunately that style included hacking the lakers for much of this series.
     
  21. BuckeyeKing

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    Yup I think they would have no problems even if the refs got involved.

    Wow this is so laughable. We must not be watching the same series then.

    Tell me how Pau Gasol takes out KG 3 mins into Game 2 then gets Glenn Davis 2 fouls all in 5 mins of play? Also Bynum and Kobe are the king of the Slap and chop. Kobe is the biggest offender. He could literally punch someone in the face and not get called for a foul. He should be in foul trouble EVERY GAME.


    What I want is the Refs to call the HARD and obvious fouls. Let the ****ing ticky tack bull**** pass.
     
  22. padre31

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    The NFL usually does show holding calls on replay.

    The NBA may wish to show only highlights, however they are also a league where players can either foul out, or play timidly if they have 4 or 5 fouls, so a smattering of replaying those foul calls would certainly help their credibility.

    Recall this is a league that had a bought off Ref, one would think they would be interested in dispelling such via showing at least some of those fouls.

    And what is worse, Van Gundy on the Broadcast will always back the Refs no matter how poor the foul call is, even the overturned out of bounds possession calls.

    Rondo was called for supposedly hacking Bryant's elbow, they showed one replay of it, Rondo missed his elbow, but JVG said "oh yes, good call", and it was clearly blown.

    Do notice that Sect as well as Anditsgood earlier in this thread commented on this officiating crew being particularly poor, and they turned out to be correct..long before tip off.

    A foul call made in the first three qtrs won't be called in the 4th qtr.

    Eh, maybe if Bynum put Baby Davis in a camel clutch they may call that one..
     
  23. krypto

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    Which 3 are you talking about? Where Odom clearly got fouled by Rondo forcing him to lose the ball? Or when Kobe slapped the ball out of KG's hands and you can clearly see KG's left hand still on the ball after Kobe's hand is off, or when Odom did knock it out but was clearly fouled by Pierce?
     
  24. krypto

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    Because fouls are not reviewable so why would the NBA exploit the refs for missing calls?


    So how about when Ray Allen threw his body back to draw a charge on Kobe? Should they keep replaying that? Or when Rondo was already passed Kobe and is falling out of bounds and THEN he does an acting job of getting hit?


    Use some common sense. Hmmmmm let's see, promote the best player in the league or degrade the officials of the game? Seriously...........
     
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  25. krypto

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    What are you talkin about? What game are you watching? How about Bynum being called towards the end of the game for fouling Davis? Or Rondo CLEARLY slapping the snot out of Derek Fisher's arm trying to go for the steal? Or the missed foul on Rondo that forced Odom to lose the ball out of bounds?
     
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  26. krypto

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    Get YOUR eyes check. Only 9 more fouls have been called on Boston.
     
  27. krypto

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    But you're the one whining. :cry:
     
  28. krypto

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    lol @ Rondo slapping Fisher on his left arm as he passed him and no call.
     
  29. krypto

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    Then you haven't been watching the NBA long enough because believe it or not, Kobe is not the first/only superstar to get the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  30. krypto

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    Funny you dont mention how Ray Allen constantly gets open. When off the ball, HE ALWAYS PUSHES OFF HIS DEFENDER, ALWAYS....So he should be in foul trouble himself too. You know what your problem is? You sound like a brat. You keep complaining the Lakers are favored blah blah blah. Yea, as if the Celtics never hack and always play perfectly clean, flop free ball.
     
  31. Section126

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    We finally have a good setup in this series.

    NOW, you take Boston in game 4 with confidence. They will play better, and they will get some calls.
     
  32. FaninPatsyLand

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    Ray Allen for threeeeeeeeeeeeee... CLANK!

    I honestly have no doubt that the Celtics are the better team in this series, but if their big guns (Pierce, Allen and KG) don't get on the same page soon, its not going to matter much.

    Very tough loss last night -- this one is going to sting for quite some time.
     
  33. Finsanity

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    Boston the better team. Now that funny. When the Lakers play their best they destroy Boston (game 1). When Boston play their best they barely hanging on and win (game 2). Lakers are clearly the better team. They have the length, rebound edge, Block more, defense play and offense better then boston.
     
  34. Section126

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    Their defense is not better than Boston's.

    and that game 2...Laker run or not...the Celtics dominated that game.
     
  35. FaninPatsyLand

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    Boston played their best during Game 2? There's no sense in getting into a pissing match with someone who clearly hasn't watched the games.

    Pierce has yet to show up in this series and KG was a no-show in LA. I still think they'll be fine. This is going seven.
     
  36. Zeke0123

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    Pierce isn't going to show up that's what Artest is for...and it took a record breaking performance from Allen to win game 2 and Rondo playing above his head...this series goes back to LA with the Lakers needing 1.
     
  37. FaninPatsyLand

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    And you can look at the other way -- it took an historically bad performance from Ray Allen for the Lakers to win Game 3.

    You're right, I think it goes back to LA with the series at 3-2 -- but with the Celtics needing one. Its going seven though.
     
  38. Finsanity

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    Celtics Dominated that game because Kobe was in foul trouble and Ray Allen had a night that he will never have again. Lakers lead the Celtics in every defensive catagory.
     
  39. Finsanity

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    Scoring under 90 in the finals of all place you are not going to win.
     
  40. FaninPatsyLand

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    The roles were reversed last night -- Pierce was in foul trouble and Ray Allen had a night that he will never have again. The only difference, of course, is that the Lakers didn't dominate.
     

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