Yes, I realize this is a message board survivor game. You're the one with the agenda. You said so yourself many pages back. I just don't want you attempting to use me to fulfill it.
I apologize for making you so upset. I do not care. I am just having a good time. If Camarillo wins, then he wins. I go about my life perfectly happy.
You guys are getting waaaay to personal and upset about this. No one is cheating. Dup is a long tenured member of the site and should be treated as such. Please remember this is just for fun.
Chad Henne [81] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [31]+1 Ronnie Brown [12] Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [111] Greg Camarillo [31]-1 Randy Starks [39]
that has nothing to do with it.....if you come with good legit info fine, if you dont then, you get questioned...I could understand if it was one person countering, but there seems to be alot of people countering his picks, that could have been used in a better manner.....and I will say if he hadnt gone on that role, Cammy would have been gone by now.....
I don't honestly care who you vote for. You have the right to go against whomever you wish. Personally, after Ronnie is gone Cam will most likely be my next target. What I have a problem with is that you, Who routinely messes up the vote count and never fixes the vote count which "isn't that hard" (your words) would have the audacity to attempt to incorrectly try to edit my corrected count. If you don't have time to fix the vote count you mess up why did you find the time to try to fix the vote count that I corrected? And for someone who "has a job" and doesn't have time to do one simple thing to keep the game running correctly you sure seem to have plenty of time to argue. Either way, I'm done bothering myself with you. If you can't play the game correctly then please quit playing, that's all I'll say.
Are you kidding me Dupree? Every time you "fixed" it you messed it up even further. On top of that, when others have tried to fix it, you have made it even more difficult by jumping in with an incorrect fix. At this point I have come to expect you to jump in with a bad count when someone tries to fix it. If it "isn't that difficult," than why have you messed it up multiple times? And then debated the mess up complicating it even further. And Big E, I am having fun with this, but I am also trying to keep it fair (along with others) and when someone continually second guesses that, and continually aggravates a situation, they are just asking for it.
I have messed up twice. I apologized both time. I am not the only person who votes and then doesn't check everytime. It just so happens that Pariah has been the person who voted the three times I didn't check.
Chad Henne [81] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [31] Ronnie Brown [11]--- Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [111] Greg Camarillo [32]+++ Randy Starks [39]
No no, because he made it a point to kick off Cammy, instead of the other 25-30 people before him, alot of other people on here felt they needed to counter his pick, thus throwing this whole thing off, then mistakes in the count happened......Cammy would have been gone a while back.....but hey whatever....IDC...
Chad Henne [82] ++++ Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [31] Ronnie Brown [10]--- Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [111] Greg Camarillo [32] Randy Starks [39]
That is their choice and part of the game. People made the choice to kick of Channing and Solia before their time. Cammy just has more people who are willing to rise to the cause. More power to them.
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30]- Ronnie Brown [11]+ Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [111] Greg Camarillo [32] Randy Starks [39]
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [12] +++++++++++ Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [111] Greg Camarillo [31] ------------ Randy Starks [39] who is talking about potential? I know what ronnie gives when hes playing... Ronnie played a full season 2 years ago, i see no reason why he wont this year... and when he plays hes 50x more important to this team than Cam...
key word bro.....this is his walk year too, so there is a alot on the line for him....he is going to want to put up stats, lets say he comes in and gets 7-800 yards one year remove from 2nd season ending knee surgery and like 6 TD's, that isnt going to be good for him, now for Miami kinda perfect, if they choose to keep him next year...
To that I say, he has missed 18 out of 80 possible games in his short career. That's nearly 25%. Not what you want out of your star running back, your #2 overall pick, or your 6 million dollar man. People want to debate that his injuries have all been "flukes" or "could happen to anyone" but the hard truth of the matter is that they've happened to him. Multiple repeated times. He has a knack for getting hurt and he has a knack for missing games. You can't produce if you're not on the field.
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [12] Ricky Williams [70] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [112]++++++++++++++++ Greg Camarillo [30]------------------ Randy Starks [39]
right coupled with the contract year thing....I mean I hope Ronnie isnt looking for a boatload of cash next offseason, if he wants to stay in Miami, hometown discount...
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [12] Ricky Williams [71] +++++ Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [112] Greg Camarillo [29] ----- Randy Starks [39]
who said anything about flukes or anything else, yes hes missed nearly 25% of his games in his career... Ricky has missed 61 out of a possible 176 games in his career, thats 35%, Camarillo just missed 5 games 2 years ago while we were fighting for the division crown... fine **** happens, ronnie is injury prone, wonderful... but even an injury prone Ronnie is more valuable than Camarillo
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [11]--THE FAT LADY SINGS.... Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [24] Jake Long [112] Greg Camarillo [30]++THE FINE LADY SINGS Randy Starks [39]
Not anymore....Ronnie was the only thing they had for a while....not the case anymore, you can always get better, now while Ronnie if healthy and sober....he will remain a big part of the offense, I dont think this offense in any way shape or form is built around him....anymore..
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [11] Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [23] - Jake Long [112] Greg Camarillo [31]+ Randy Starks [39]
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] Ronnie Brown [11] Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [22] ----------- Jake Long [112] Greg Camarillo [31] Randy Starks [40] ++++++++
and your basing that on what? your assuming this for next year... we're going off fact of the last few years, your going off what you hope will happen with Marshall on the team now... Marshall who himself is coming off an offseason surgery and has never played a game for the dolphins before... you can talk about all this stuff that will happen to ronnie next year, or the offense, or his contract, or that he'll miss X amount of games... whatever, im not in the business of predicting the future... Ronnie Brown in our backfield is a vital part of this offense and hes the most valuable running back on our team...
Chad Henne [82] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [29] -1 Ronnie Brown [11] Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [22] Jake Long [113] +1 Greg Camarillo [31] Randy Starks [40]
Maybe it is a little bit of "predicting the future" but lets look at it realistically. We saw a drastic drop off in the use of the wild cat after ronnie went down last year. We saw a signifigant improvement in Chad Henne last year. We were actually shopping Ronnie Brown this off-season. And lastly, we have acquired Brandon Marshall. All these signs point to a very diminished value of the wildcat and an overall lesser role for Ronnie Brown. I'm not saying he wont see the field and I'm not saying he wont contribute if healthy. But the offense has evolved, we have built depth into our skill player corp and the days of Run Ronnie Run are behind us.
It really isnt predicting the future guys look at it for what it is worth, look at the pieces...I am basing it on what I see happening, this team the guys running it clearly owe you(players nothing) from year to year, you(players) earn your playing time every year...I havent predicted any lost time for Ronnie this year ever, why would I ever root against him?....I know he hasnt been healthy past couple years, I know he isnt going to be 100% until into training camp, if at all, once the season starts and 3-hundred pounders start falling on him, he will be hurtning....he will split time with Ricky, who as always is in great shape....he has to play this year, it is his money year, say what YOU want about that, but the kid in his mind is playing for a contract, he will play at 80-90% and say he is 100%...Miami dangled him in a trade, and hasnt offered him a contract extension, he has to be a bit sour by it, he is going to want the majority of the PT Henning has literally said in a TV interview last year that he makes his gameplan according to who is out on the field, or to the abilities of the guys out there, there is a shiny new million dollar WR out there who can catch balls better than anybody that ever put on a Dolphins uniform.... Last year when RB went down, and Henne got more comfortbale back there, the Cat all but was a shadow of its former self...Will the Cat be gone forever, no.......will it be run like it has been in the last 2 years...no...and honestly I hope it doesnt, there are options now, as opposed to when the Cat was born on that beautiful day in Foxboro.... That being said Ronnie, I love him, and is important to us sure, but with Henne, BM, Ricky, Ronnie, BESS(see Dupree), and the rest, the Wildcat based offense may go the way of the dinosaurs.....and I look for Henne to let the coaches know that, thats what QB leaders who want the ball in their hands do...they asked Marino about the Cat, and what did he say...??
Chad Henne [83]+ Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [29] Ronnie Brown [10]- Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [22] Jake Long [113] Greg Camarillo [31] Randy Starks [40]
Chad Henne [83] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [29] Ronnie Brown [9]- Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [22] Jake Long [114] + Greg Camarillo [31] Randy Starks [40]
Chad Henne [83] Brandon Marshall [36] Vontae Davis [30] + Ronnie Brown [9] Ricky Williams [71] Lousaka Polite [22] Jake Long [114] Greg Camarillo [30] - Randy Starks [40] adding in Jeff's vote I got mine from baboo
