1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

My Random Video Game Thought of the Day

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by mor911, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. mor911

    mor911 pooping

    6,150
    4,013
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Austin, TX
    I think 2010 is building up to be THE year
     
  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    In news that possibly only I care about (at least among people here), the PS3 will have stereoscopic enabled games started tomorrow.

    I wonder when Killzone 2 will get updated for 3D?
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    It won't. Wait for Killzone 3.

    Also, keep in mind that in order to display a 3D image, you need a TV that actually supports the technology.
     
  4. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    It's been said K2 will get an update later this year to support 3D, much like MLB 10: the Show was demoed at CES in 3D.

    And I'm well aware that you need a TV that supports 3D technology to take advantage of 3D games.

    In addition to a capable tv you need active shutter glasses and possibly an IR emitter for the glasses (depending on what type of glasses you get).

    This is why I thought K2 would be in 3D at some point:
    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1081647p1.html
    However, they updated the article with a statement from Sony:
    2 of the 5 mentioned games will be able to be played in 3D, so some of the other games may still happen. I just wouldn't bet on it is all.
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    No need to issue an update for Killzone 2 when you can just make 3D a bullet point feature for Killzone 3.

    I don't know who the hell is going to buy a new TV and the extra equipment necessary for 3D, either.
     
  6. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    To say there is another game that is 3D.

    It is a pretty niche market right now. HD is just catching on
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    Well many people could've bought 3D ready TVs as long as 3 years ago, as DLPs have had that capability for at least that long, so not everyone has to buy a new TV. There are numerous PC games out that can be run in 3D (including WoW as far as I know and Bioshock) for people who wanted to take advantage of the technology. Aside from that, if people haven't bought an HDtv recently (or at all) or people who are just in the market to upgrade their TV in general might buy a 3D capable tv. Plus people who are home theater enthusiasts might be a new TV and the extra equipment.

    It is indeed a niche market right now, much like blu-ray was in it first came out, and dvd, and laser disc, and color tv etc.

    Sony has said that around 20 3D games will be available by year's end.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    This particular HT enthusiast will never buy a 3D TV unless they're all that exists on the market. And even then I might trawl eBay for an older set.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    That kind of makes you the opposite of a HT enthusiast :tongue2:
     
    Stitches likes this.
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    Last I checked, 3D wasn't a part of anyone's home theater.

    Sure as hell won't be part of mine. Useless gimmickry, IMO.
     
  11. mor911

    mor911 pooping

    6,150
    4,013
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Austin, TX
    I am not on the 3d bandwagon either... As a glasses wearer, it's just plain annoying.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    It is if the person is an enthusiast
     
  13. TJamesW_Phinfan

    TJamesW_Phinfan New Member

    2,695
    552
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    Depends on what they are enthusiastic about. Plasma fans hate LCD and LCD hate plasma but both schools have their enthusiasts. Ok hate is a bit extreme but some do take it that far. Some prefer 5.1 some 7.1 and and even a few prefer just plain stereo and so on. An enthusiast doesn't necessarily go after every new trend. In fact some hold on to old trends with a vengeance.

    Like Mor said current 3d sucks for glasses wearers like me. It is no where near perfected and to this enthusiast is just a way to boost sales. A tech that I wont buy till it is clearer and does not need special glasses.

    Sorry I got so wordy here. I just get very annoyed that manufacturers are wasting time and product space on 3d when they still need to improve current picture quality and at an affordable price. Samsungs best rated LCD set, as just one example, retails around 7 grand and yet still has issues that engineers could be working to fix instead of putting resources into 3d.

    Perfect 2d first then move up.
     
  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Engineers are and putting more on the project might actually cause it to take longer.
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    Enthusiast doesn't mean "buy indiscriminately."
     
  16. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

    4,634
    1,660
    113
    Mar 24, 2008
    Here's my random video game thought of the day:

    Yesterday I turned on my desktop, and while I was waiting for a movie to download, I decided to double click on a program that I hadn't run for a couple of years, Lineage 2. I was able to remember my login and password for a private 45x server. I ended up playing for almost 2 hours. It made me wish I had alot of time throughout the day to kill! LOL That sure was fun back in the day playing that game. PVP, grinding, crafting, castle sieges!
     
  17. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

    9,775
    5,149
    113
    May 7, 2008
    North Cacalaka
    Talking about 3D... I turned on my directv yesterday and got the message that my receiver is 3D ready now and will start broadcasting ESPN 3D starting tomorrow.
     
  18. Ultra

    Ultra Lazy

    2,178
    624
    113
    Mar 24, 2008
    Texas
    honestly 3D interests me more than that stupid Natal crap Xbox is doing. I play games cause I'm too lazy to go outside (or it's too hot), putting on some funky glasses would be preferrable to jumping around the room like an idiot IMO.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    It enables 3D on that one specific ESPN channel in the low numbers. You still need the TV and equipment to watch it.

    ESPN hopping on the 3D bandwagon just makes me dislike the technology even more.
     
  20. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    The top of the line products will always be more expensive. The technology is considerably cheaper now, as it cost like 7 grand for a relatively basic HDTV like 7 years ago.

    LCDs (like plasmas and dlps) will always have issues that are inherent with the technology. Engineers won't be able to fix everything no matter how many resources they put in.

    I'm not quite sure where you are getting your prices either, as the samsung website shows their most expensive LCD as costing $2,500 (and that's merely MSRP). Their most expensive LED tv is 7K (again MSRP), but that TV is like 2 months old (and like I said, it's top of the line).
     
  21. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    If they have an LED set that costs $7000, then he's correct when he says Samsung's best LCD costs $7000. After all, LED sets still use LCD panels, they just replace the CCFL backlighting with LED backlighting.

    :shifty:
     
  22. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    Right, but Samsung does not categorize them as such, they categorize them as LED. Again though, it's Samsung's brand new premiere (non-plasma) display so of course it will cost a lot.
     
  23. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    I'm just sayin'. :tongue2:
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Really? Not very enthusiast.

    The thought of watching sports in 3D is exciting.
     
  25. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    Yea, video games and sports is what has me most excited about 3D.
     
  26. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    Again, being an enthusiast doesn't mean buying into gimmicks.
     
  27. TJamesW_Phinfan

    TJamesW_Phinfan New Member

    2,695
    552
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    True it is their flagship LED back lit LCD model. It was almost 2 am after working 2nd shift so my post was a bit lazy.

    Also true they get cheaper. I just bought an LED for 1600 that retailed for 2700 a year ago.

    I know they can't fix everything but there is room for lessening blooming, flash lighting, back light bleed, etc. They are making strides but I feel they can go further.

    I'm happy to a degree with my current TV's and my monitor for gaming on the PC but I still think they can and will do better on PQ and lag and so on. Maybe it will take OLED or a new tech, who knows?
     
  28. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    generally, yes it does if they are Home Theatre enthusiasts
     
  29. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    At that point you've gone beyond the "enthusiast" category and firmly into "sucker" territory.
     
  30. mor911

    mor911 pooping

    6,150
    4,013
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Austin, TX
    I'm with Desides on this one. 3D is a fad that Avatar turned main stream and Sony is (again) trying to rake in a bazzillion dollars. We're just now warming up to HD and Blu-Ray and they're already wanting us go fork out thousands more dollars just to see things pop out? Nah.

    I personally enjoy regular Avatar a lot more than the 3D version.
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    the moment you become an enthusiast
     
  32. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Grandpa Simpson over here.

    3D is a fad that is here to stay. At least in theatres.

    What is wrong with Sony trying to make money?
     
  33. mor911

    mor911 pooping

    6,150
    4,013
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Absolutely nothing is wrong with Sony trying to make money. Not knocking them. They have (smartly) spotted a fad and are trying to cash in on enthusiasts, suckers, whatever. Mor power to them. I just think it's too much too early. The HDTV adoption rate isn't even 50% yet and you want to roll out 3D? Come on.

    Also, I agree that 3D will stay in theaters. People love that stuff. 2 hours in a theater with 3D glasses on isn't so bad. 9 hour gaming sessions with 3D glasses on is very bad.
     
  34. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    I can't decide if your view of HT enthusiasm is either too condescending or too broad.
     
  35. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    It may well vary from person to person, but I have read accounts of people who have played PC games for 6+ hours without any significant complaints of eye strain or head aches or anything (I have no 1st hand experience yet, and I doubt you do either at that time length) I don't think we can really determine if it's bad or not yet.

    I thought I read that HDTV adoption is currently around 60% (can't find an article, though it is definitely at least 50% according to an article from May). Supposedly HDTVs are the fastest adopted of TV technology in the US since VCRs though.
     
  36. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    I can believe that. The concept of a flat panel set is very popular in the US. The thinner, the better, as far as the average consumer is concerned.

    I'd bet a dollar that HD source subscription rates lag well behind that 60% adoption, though. A lot of people think that just having an HDTV means they're getting an HD image.
     
  37. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    If someone took that bet you'd be a dollar richer for sure. Well, I don't know what would constitute "lagging well behind" but sadly there are plenty of people with (strictly) SD feeds and composite cables running to their sets.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    when they have 3D without glasses it will probably take off.

    I still want to see a NFL game in 3D. I have heard it is amazing
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

    40,533
    33,035
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    just face it, you are more of a HT hobbiest or more like a causal HT enjoyer.

    Could be a HT purest
     
  40. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    HT enthusiast and HT hobbyist would be one in the same to me.
     

Share This Page