QB- Dolphins RB- Dolphins FB- Dolphins WR-Jets TE- Jets OL- Dolphins DL- push LB- Jets CB- Jets(maybe) S- Dolphins Coach and FO- Dolphins Name a tean with 2 better RBs, a better FB and a better OL. well i guess that means the dolphins have the best running game in the NFL
really? He sure acted like a troll with immature inflammatory posts and remarks. I deleted a handful of posts and had to edit about a half dozen others. I said if an admin felt differently they can reverse it, obviously no one has so this will be the last that is said about it.
its all good sir. You come here to talk football not name call or flame people. Thats acceptable and welcomed.
Thank you. I just always remind myself to be more respectful here because it's not my house. It's yours [Dolphins fans] and I'm just a guest.
We did until Ronnie, Cobs and our interior line got banged up and with all that we still ended up in the top 5.
it is what it is: we will sweep the cheaters, along w/ the lofty jests (just like last year) in 2010. words are inappropriate, when the rubber meets the road Miami will do the driving
Didn't really read through all the posts on this topic so i'm not sure were we are but this is what I think. I'm a BIG pat's fan I hate the Dolphins, I hate the Jets, with that said I believe Sanchez has the better overall year. Cotchery,Edwards,Homes,Keller? Also the Jets will still have a solid run game this year, I love how the Phins fans on here say Edwards is "not good" and "inconsistent" ect and LT is "over the hill" but if the Dolphins signed them instead of the Jets I bet you would have a totally complete opposite view and you would all be very excited. Phins fans need to realize the Jets and Patriots got the AFC east on lock, and I don't want to hear how "well the Phins swept the Jets last year" because one game it was the final play that won it and the other game they only won because Ginn got two kickoff returns for touchdowns. The phin's got wrecked game one by the Patriots and barely won the second game. I see a 9-7 record at best with the Phins. Sorry Dolphins fan's, your team just isn't good enough.
We don't need a Braylon Edwards...we already had Ted Ginn. And it would make no since to sign a declining Tomlinson when we already have a top Rb tandem.
Dolfan984: PLEASE tell me WHY the PATRIOTS will be THIRD in the AFC EAST this year because I am very interested. PS, there is a difference between just saying a team will do so good or so bad versus actually having facts to back up what you say PS again... Im serious please tell me how the Pats will finish third.
-No running game -Moss's productivity is slipping -Welker will miss games -No passrush to speak of -poor Special Teams play. The Pastriots are rebuilding and the players they have drafted are just not as good as the ones they lost, they have not been for going on 3 drafts now.
-No running game---Finished 12th in the league with yards a game with 120 -Moss's productivity is slipping---83 catches almost 1300 yards 13 TD's? -Welker will miss games---He is progressing very well and if he does miss the first 6 games we still got Moss,Edelman,Aiken,Tate,Holt,Price,Crumpler,Gronkowski,Hernandez. (The passing game will be FINE.) -No passrush to speak of---The pass rush should improve and even without a amazing pass rush the Patriots will still have a very productive D -poor Special Teams play---They have a decent return game but first rounder Devin McCourty should fix that. The Pastriots are rebuilding and the players they have drafted are just not as good as the ones they lost, they have not been for going on 3 drafts now--- They are improving I remember reading somewhere 47 percent of the Patriots roster is made up of 2 year pro's or younger. It's take's time to turn players into the great's of the past Mayo is stepping up as a leader the CB spot is looking very promising with Bodden,Butler,McCourty,Wilhite, Safety looks very good with Meriweather switching to free safety and Chung getting the start now at Strong safety. The Patriots are not the old team they used to be, they are rebuilding but luckily they can maintain competitive while doing this, the Patriots went 10-6 I have a really hard time seeing them going below that 10-6 mark for a very long time.
Lets see. Not too hard to nit pick on a team that's in obvious decline. Welker will be at a max 90% this year. He didn't tear his knee up in September, he did it 5-6 months ago. Good luck with that in 2010. Moss is a year slower, sure he's still good, but Brandon Marshall is the best WR in this division now. I'm VERY scared of Laurence Maroney's 3.9 YPC. Is this the year the 34 year old Kevin Faulk slows down? If so that's a HUGE HUGE hit to you guys. You guys started out 6-2 and ended up 10-7. Your team did not have some huge rash of injuries that you used to be able to fight through 5 years ago and do BETTER than your team did last year. I got more if you really want. I got 20 more minutes at work I can dig up info if you want heh. Congrats on beating up and then losing to a team with a 24 year old (now 25) QB without his #1 RB, and 3/5ths of his starting linemen. Now that we have Brandon Marshall and Karlos Dansby, you really don't think we'd have a chance against you guys? It's not like you guys steamrolled your way through the playoffs. Had you been lucky enough to get the 6 seed like the Jets you would've gotten to the AFC Championship as well but at least then some of your arrogance would've made sense.
No Pats fan ever thinks the Pats are going to do poorly. Also...not sure how you can he a Pats fan and love the Jets. I live in NH, and have tons of friends who are Pats fans, and they ALL hate the Jets. You can't be a true fan and love another team in your division.
Miami, the Jets and probably the Bills finished ahead of you. Absolutely, you watched the games, I watched 4 or 5 of them, Moss was not the same player he used to be, case in point when Davis picked off Brady in the first game, Moss came back and scored a long TD, in the second game, Davis picked off Brady in the endzone and Moss didn't answer back. REcall the Saints v Patriots MNF game? Sharper hit Moss in the first Qtr, that was the end of Moss for that game, in the past couple of years Moss would have asserted himself, no longer. Last yr you had Aiken, Edelman, Tate, Galloway, Watson et al, and still, it just wasn't the same Pastriots offense which is why the Ravens blew you out at home, in the playoffs. Drowning man reached for the straw and still drowned.. That highlights one of the pastriots problems, Belicheck has accumulated so many draft picks for the same positions that there is not enough playing time to develop them properly, this yr it is McCourty on returns, last yr he drafted Tate the NCAA all time leading returner in yardage gained, how many kicks does one suppose two players can return at the same time? Names do make up for proven players, losing Harrison and replacing him with a Safety by committee does not produce a pro bowl safety, and if anything all of the youth merely points out that...your Pastriots are rebuilding and doing a poor job of it: http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/does-belichick-get-a-pass-on-poor-drafts/ It remains to be seen if they can remain competitive because the AFCE has gotten much tighter in the last two seasons and the Pats are doing a really good Steelers imitation circa 1982 or so, most of the SB vets were either gone, or growing long in the tooth and it is hard to replace a #9 overall Seymour with a Mike Wright. http://internet128.com/index.php/2008/04/26/new-england-patriots-2008-draft/ And THAT is why the Patriots can easily finish third in the division as on top of the player acquisition woes, they also earned the First Place Schedule.
Edelman will be a very good substitute until Welker get's back if he isn't already there week 1. I bet you Moss put's up bigger numbers than marshall this year! (Brady vs Henne) Even with Maroney's 3.9 YPC they apparently had a better running game that 20 other teams. The Patriots are a VERY young team, The Patriots are in a rebuilding phase. Most people don't recognize this because most teams that are rebuilding are 2-14 5-12 ect. Please explain how the Patriots are in a decline? They didn't do so good this year because there very young which means there only getting better.
-No running game---Finished 12th in the league with yards a game with 120 Good luck getting 5.4 YPC and 4.4 YPC outta Kevin Faulk and Sammy Morris. These guys are NOT Ricky Williams and both guys are older than him. Don't get me wrong Faulk has always been a beast but at 34? It's really a ? at this point. Maroney and his 700 or so yards and 3.9 YPC scare NOBODY. He is a scrub. -Moss's productivity is slipping---83 catches almost 1300 yards 13 TD's? Moss's productivity isn't slipping and he'll be a fine receiver for you. I think it's more that this year more than ever you noticed him to start giving up on plays. You saw it a lot with the Raiders but it really wow'd me seeing that last year. You guys are relying on a lot of guys who are really getting close to 35 years old. -Welker will miss games---He is progressing very well and if he does miss the first 6 games we still got Moss,Edelman,Aiken,Tate,Holt,Price,Crumpler,Gronkowski,Hernandez. (The passing game will be FINE.) Only person these who scares anyone is Moss. All those other guys are #3 guys or worse. -No passrush to speak of---The pass rush should improve and even without a amazing pass rush the Patriots will still have a very productive D Speculation. No facts. -poor Special Teams play---They have a decent return game but first rounder Devin McCourty should fix that. You hope. We hoped with Ted Ginn too and to everyone who knows anything about college football that was supposed to be way more of a sure thing than Devin McCourty. Safety looks very good with Meriweather switching to free safety and Chung getting the start now at Strong safety. The Patriots are not the old team they used to be, they are rebuilding but luckily they can maintain competitive while doing this, the Patriots went 10-6 I have a really hard time seeing them going below that 10-6 mark for a very long time. Yes your D did very well against non playoff teams and the Jets. When you actually played an offense you gave up 21 to Balt (in a game you guys cheated the f out of) which ended up being a 33 point beatdown in the playoffs. 35 to the Colts. 38 to the Saints....and that about wraps it up for the playoff teams you faced. No the Jets do not have a real offense, they won with a running game a defense holding them to 17 points is a normal game for them in 09. Games like the shutout against Tennessee (goooo Kerry Collins!) definitely help your case. Wait what?
This isn't a slam on Edelman, but he is not as good of a prospect as you make him out to be, for example he is not as quick as Welker, nor as fast as Welker when he was healthy. And the other reason why the Pats may finish third: Tom Brady's knee injury took something from his game, he just is not as accurate as he used to be on deep passes, maybe with a full yr behind him on his new knee that will come back for him, but last yr his touch just wasn't there on the deep stuff. In the second Miami Game he was missing wide open Wr deep, as in 35-45 yds down the field when the Patriots were trying to mount a comeback he had Welker and Aiken open but the ball was consistently off target, his yds came from Welker racking up YAC. As for 'they are a young team that will only get better" Perhaps, however look who they are trying to replace, will the young players surpass a team whose core went to 4 SB's in 7 seasons? And there are no guarantees with young players they can look great one season, and fall off of a cliff the next season.
No Pats fan ever thinks the Pats are going to do poorly. Also...not sure how you can he a Pats fan and love the Jets. I live in NH, and have tons of friends who are Pats fans, and they ALL hate the Jets. You can't be a true fan and love another team in your division. When did I say I love the Jets? I'm actually pretty sure I said I hate the Jet's. By saying that Sanchez is going to be better than Henne doesn't make me a Jets lover. What if I said Henne was going to be better? Would that make me a Patriots and Dolphins lover? It's hard to be a Patriots fan and not think were going to do good. 2001 11-5 2002 9-7 2003 14-2 2004 14-2 2005 10-6 2006 12-4 2007 16-0 2008 11-5 2009 10-6 2011 11-5? (Honest estimate)
Edelman isn't as good as Bess let alone Welker. You WILL miss Welker. Miami being a run first team will be the main reason Moss would have more numbers. You're really assuming a lot that Kevin Faulk will bring a 5.4 and Morris will bring 4.4ypc and about 800 yards between them. Without that your running game is BAD. Miami rebuilt more than New England this offseason by far. I could be wrong (pretty sure I'm not) but Miami is the younger of the two teams, and have the big advantage of only having one of their stars in the twilight of his career. Pats got quite a few.
Ahh, now that is funny, notice you win total has dropped each season since 07? The pats are just as likely to go 9-7 or even 8-8, and Brady isn't getting any younger.
I'm pretty sure you have nothing to say 2001 11-5 2002 9-7 2003 10-6 2004 4-12 2005 9-7 2006 6-10 2007 1-15 2008 11-5 2009 7-9 You guys seem to be really consistent.
We didn't say Edwards isn't good. All that was said was he is inconsistent and has bad hands. Both facts. Also, how is LT not over the hill? Have you seen his production the last two seasons? We have the talent to win this division. Don't under estimate this team.
My bad, I read that you loved the Jets. Also, how many coaching changes have the Dolphins had in the last eight or ten years? Hard to be consistent when you have constant turnover at the top.
