Well now, it appears to be shaping as Taurus Johnson vs Ryan Grice Mullen for "the Returner" role as they are the only two seeing time at both, and Nolan Carroll sliding over to kick off returns is a fantastic development if he can manage to compete well. A Db who can play on ST, Returner, and some in the base defense would be outstanding. Carroll has 4.4/3 speed when healthy.
It would be nice because he's so fast and he's set to make the roster regardless, but he's got no real experience at it to my knowledge.
It could happen, that job looks wide open. My dude, RGM is an explosive returner, his problem is there is a touch of Chris Williams' hands to his game that he needs to dispel. Interesting that AJ Wallace is also not fielding any kicks, if he were, Wallace, Davis, RGM, either set School records for returns, or set a league record for the longest return, there is a lot of talent competing for that job. Someone (Berardino?) said Sheets was the best in the group, ShaunM in the live camp thread mentioned RGM and Carroll, it's hard to say who is in the lead so to speak.
Sheets looking the best doesn't surprise me. He's got a good burst and weave ability. He looked good in the Senior Bowl a couple years back as well.
Same with K Sheets. On a larger thought, notice that the spots where there is real competition, G, KR, #2 Wr, #4 maybe #5 Wr, OLB, and DE, there are talented options vying for the jobs? I mean, if RGM, Carroll or Sheets wins the Returner job, or T Johnson or Tristan Davis, all of them run 4.4's/4.3's, if Misi wins the OLB job, or Ikaika Francis, both are freakish type athletes, so it's not like Rashad Jennings would be Starting, a good, not great player with little upside. IE..Q Moses has a steep hill to climb. At DE, Douglas, Grant, Baker, to a lesser extent McDaniel, all of them can play fairly well and offer real options for Nolan's Defense. i'm digging the thinking behind this Camp so far as it seems they finally have gotten enough depth that the luxury of non Vets vying for jobs can be indulged, and the young guys are good athletes.
SI.com: His positives would seem to point to the skills needed to return kicks and punts. Exactly as you say Alen, largely unmentioned is Sheets got into a jam at Purdue via bad mouthing either the Coach or Qb. He does have some practice squad time left, but I suspect if after a year in Miami he cannot win a job they may cut bait on him.
Fresh perspective so I'll bump this with that: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...olphins-who-will-step-up-to-return-kicks.html That's right, Sparano uses that Parcell's blueprint for Returners, they have to have stocky legs, a bit shorter as well. That is PCobbs, who is fearless but as explosive as a wet fart.
from the little bit i've seen of taurus johnson he seems to have the good trait of running north and south. unfortunately he didnt seem that fast to me. i think i would prefer RGM if those are the two choices
Hard to tell at this point Bro, literally it could be anyone. I simply hope they take it seriously and do not settle for the status quo of Bess and Cobbs...<shudder>..we need everyone to produce, Sparano should recognize Returner as a need position, not a "whomever" position. I do expect there will be a winnowing of some of the prospects soon, there just is not enough room for them all to have shots at the job.
why risk him. he'll probably be the starter opposite marshall. i would rather have 2nd stringers returning
I wonder why AJ Wallace is not given any chances. He was a top 20 returner in college last year and imo the only way he makes the team is on special teams.
That is what makes a DB doing that job such a great stroke, a dime Cb is far more expendable, especially in Nolan's defense than a #2 Wr is.
dime db, 3rd string rb, 2nd or 3rd string wr is all fine by me. i still remember the giants losing jason sehorn for the year when they experimented with him at KR. He was never the same afterwards
He was never that good to begin with. I do not think kick returners get hurt any more than wide receiver. Just because one guy gets hurt doesn't mean that kick returner is more dangerous. I want to see Taurus Johnson win, mostly because I like what he can develop as a 5th receiver.
he was definitely good before the injury. afterwards he sucked. i'm rooting for RGM to win the 5th spot. I think he can handle the KR duties plus i like the moves he has in open space and would like to see him in the slot periodically
Well he did tear his ACL in the first game as a Returner adamp. Difference is, Seahorn was a pro bowler, Carrol is a 5th rd pick. and keep in mind Devin Hester began as a Cb, the Ravens used L Webb as Returner, and Miller made the pro bowl as a returner and he was a Cb. What if Jason Allen could return kicks? That is the value that a Cb/Returner/ST player offers. i'm unabashedly pro RGM, but if he doesn't make it, oh well, there goes my Scout Union Card...
I'm with you Alen. Sheets jumped out at me during the Senior Bowl. This kid's gotta have a fire lit to be "the man" again in at least some aspect of the game (even if it's just as a returner).... at least I would if I were him. I'd actually like to see him get a few reps in with the 1st team offense during Pre-season to see what he can do behind our mauling line..... see if he can be our Ahmad Bradshaw. I like what he showed in this winning TD run vs Dallas. In the comments below it, the fans didn't seem to happy to let him go. One of them cracked me up! LOL.[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxA7bmUF_k&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxA7bmUF_k&feature=related[/ame]
Ahmad Bradshaw is a spot on comparison "if" he shows he has a all around game. Knowshon Moreno tore a hamstring (or may have) if Hilliard and Sheets show something, no one should be surprised, unless Westbrook signs in Denver.
I personally saw kick return drills yesterday and RGM and Nolan Carroll were electric! The speed but more importantly the cuts from those two were impressive!
well thats good to hear. i'll be thrilled if we get some serious return threats going especially on punt returns
Just listened to Sparano's presser today and he said: ..."we've had Davis, Carroll, Cobbs, Bess, back there on kicks...if there is a way for one of those guys to make the team returning kicks or punts I'd like to have one of them force me to make a decision on how they make the 53 man roster.." Nice, attack attack attack always attack..the door is open, someone simply has to walk through it and take a job in the NFL as a Returner.
Why can't we just see wth White can do for cryin' out loud? He reminds me of Deion in the open field.If you want the damn ball in his hands,here is his,fans of his, and the teams opportunity. Jeez,what's the problem?
I don't know if he's as tough as Ahmad, but IMO the kid is a natural runner with phenomenal body control. I like his vision, instincts, and anticipation. I think he's the RB we bring in to bust one loose when defenses are standing around with their hands on their hips (after we've just scored on a 7+ minute drive and created a quick 3 and out with the opposing defense right back on the field). ????
Exactly, to me the breakdown would be Ronnie 15 carries, Ricky 15 carries, Sheets with maybe 5 touches at Rb, on stretch plays and draws and sweeps. Don't worry about off tackle dives and things he doesn't do well, and use him where his skills can put him into a position to succeed. Heck, he'd be good on screens as well, that is if Henne can throw them./
I'd be fine with that. I could see a back like him going for 6+ YPC in that role, with a few game changers sporadically thrown in. He seems like a passionate player.... and a team player too. Said his greatest moment at Purdue was beating ND at home (where he ran over to the drum, beat it in excitement, and then high-fived the fans). To me, that speaks a lot about the kid on many levels.
you think cobbs was a mediocre 3rd down back. i actually liked him. i thought he was pretty effective
