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Day 6 tweets of interest

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    how long?
     
  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Twenty four hours I think. Padre can correct me on that if I'm wrong, please.
     
  3. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    thats it huh?? thought it was longer....dont ask me y...I have no reason...fanatsy football is longer hahahah
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Offhand I don't know, I think it is a day and rarely are injured players claimed off of Waived/Injured wire.

    I'd guess they will stick with their program and bring in a Rb/WR/KR and who knows on the other player?

    Maybe an Olineman?

    I'm still holding a small candle for Thomas or O-Gun...
     
  5. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    and if that doesn't light a fire under his arse,nothing will
    gave him some re-evaluation time to himself i'm sure..
     
  6. padre31

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    I wonder if BMarsh is scoring over Sean Smith?

    As for Sparano..he swears like a drunk sailor..or ex wife...:lol:

     
  7. padre31

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    With RGM nursing a hammy, that is no surprise.

    Wake is eating Vern Carey alive right now.

    Which is a theory I have, why put your best passrusher on the LT when RT's are generally not as athletic or talented?
     
  8. padre31

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    Well, we shall see, Turner has turned it up a notch so far in TC, but when the hitting starts that is when PT either steps up or steps out.
     
  9. Anonymous

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    Didn't know Polite can shake and bake like that, lol.
     
  10. padre31

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    Ikaika on ST?

    270 pds and 6'5?

    and that is one of his paths to the roster, if he plays acceptably well Q Moses is in deep deep kimchi.
     
  11. Shamboubou

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    For me I think the theory behind it is that if your best and beat their best and your good can beat their good you have a chance for 2 guys getting to the QB.

    If you put lesser talent against the LT there is pretty much no chance of pressure.
     
  12. padre31

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    Disagree, and "pressure" is a good concept, Left Tackles are multimillionaires now, RT's are afterthoughts, why not go after the RT, where the Qb can actually see the pressure, rather than on the LT were the position requires that level of talent?

    Turner still grinding, I don't recall what he did in TC last yr though.
     
  13. padre31

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    Well, they are happy with their Lb group:

    Edds counts as a roster member, meaning there will be no one signed to take his place on the practice field, with 12 lb's as it is, I guess they feel "Full" at Lb.
     
  14. padre31

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    Recall Vontae picking off Tom Brady on a fade route to Randy Moss?

    Brandon Marshall is making Smith and Davis look like UDFA's..:D
     
  15. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Agree why not put your best pass rusher against the LT.
    Wake on Long. Don't want to call Wake a speed rusher yet but he has some wiggle with his move. Gets real low and apparently has a few new moves. It only makes both players better with competition. Especially getting Jake some work against a guy who we know can get there. Helps Long's footwork. And his hips....
     
  16. padre31

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    Oh sure, I'm speaking in general Killahp, the left tackle has evolved into a position as important as Qb, why ensure your most effective passrusher faces their most effect pass blocker>?

    Isn't the NFL about creating mismatches? Why bang your head against that wall?

    As for Wake v Long...agree it helps both players, Cam can break out a new move or technique and try it against a top 3 left tackle, and Long can get up to game speed more quickly.

    But if you want to pressure the Qb in a game, the RT is the onramp DCord's should choose imho.

    What a budget nightmare though, tens of millions of dollars in contracts for two players who neither catch passes nor score TD's.
     
  17. Killerphins

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    Right it does work that way and RT's are bit overpaid. we have one
    We are playing with ourselves now so match ups should be big in camp
    You wait for the season to explore mismatches
     
  18. padre31

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    Not as much as one would think RT tends to be a dumping ground of washed out LT's and late round draft picks.

    Agreed, to a point, I do think we have reached the point where live game action is required to sort things out.

    How many times can Cam Wake blow by a Tackle before it becomes meaningless?

    All the glowing articles in the world won't make up for the need for Misi to get onto the field and implement what he has learned?
     
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  19. siciliansith

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    I understand the thinking, but tendons grow not like muscle of course. But strong muscles are suppose to keep ya from injuring them soft tendons. If yo got strong legs you dont wear as much on your knees and ankles.
     
  20. siciliansith

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    Padre, I have a different take. You need to win all match ups to truely be great or win. If we Put our best rusher on a RT then what we leave is our second best on the LT wich is ther best on that side of ball right? so it's a wash.

    The point IMO (im not a guru at all) Have are best pass rusher that can take the LT and a second best guy that can take the RT and now we have containment. we rush both sides and they cant exploit us. Plus how many times do we see that the left side gets doubled allowing the right to be penetrated? Or oposite. If you give one side a easy day they'll exploit it. Therefor like they say, "it's still football" ya gotta put your best on there best.

    If we left the Left side free they'd just pass screens and runs on us all day.

    NOte: Nolan likes to find them blitzes that confuse and get them mismatches, corners, safteys etc..

    Edit again lol: The wildcat trys that I think by pushing the unbalanced line. The defense changes or we put our strong side on there weak side which is the point. Can the other team adapt? Actually I feel like a idiot we didnt really do a unbalanced line last year.
     
  21. Whitedolphin54

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    The secret would be to have two great pass rushers, and then it wouldn't matter who lines up over who :lol:
     
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  22. siciliansith

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    Its not a secret really you need to set the edge and contain on both sides and if you only get a rush over the right side he roles left and kills ya there.

    So like you said we need quality on both sides, so only way for quality is putting your best rusher on there best tackle then you have a shot.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    Absolutely, that would be one of the first places I want to use him. When you have a guy that is huge and way faster than he should be for that size, even if he's raw as an onion the best place you can start him out is special teams.

    That's why Cam Wake was such a staple of the special teams unit.

    This is really good news for IAF, if he excels there. His presence on special teams would allow them to take Cameron Wake off the unit, and that'll get IAF on the roster.
     
  24. padre31

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    Exactly, I don't think IAF is going away anytime soon Ck, not with LB Coach Sheridan in his corner, Sparano brought Sheridan into Miami specifically for the work he did on the Giants LB corps (Mathias Kiawanuka?) so he has a bit more latitude than the typical Lb coach.

    Besides, if Q Moses can hold down a roster spot for 2 season playing less than 100 plays and not playing on Special Teams, Ike can easily move him off the roster as he has more upside than Q.
     
  25. ckparrothead

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    With the lack of depth at OLB though, Quentin Moses has an opportunity to solidify his roster space in preseason by showing what a better linebacker he is.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

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    Would anyone be surprised to see us bring in Chike Okeafor??? He can rush, and has coverage ability.
     
  27. alen1

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    Only thing that makes me question that move is that he would cut into snaps of young guys, which Ireland is against.

    I wouldn't mind the move though. Could be a decent pickup IMO.
     
  28. padre31

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    I liked Rashad Jeanty SB, not an old player, but experienced, ST player, starters experience, to me he made sense.
     
  29. padre31

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    Imho they aren't buying that he has upside Ck, in two years he has less than 100 snaps in games, toss in the fact he is a fish, and doesn't play ST, and imho he is vulnerable to losing his job.

    Now can Ikaika Francis take it from him?

    That remains to be seen, I do think Sheridan likes him as "his" guy, he owes Q Moses nothing at all in terms of an investment of time, Q was Edwards and Reid's project.
     
  30. siciliansith

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    Interesting It seemed that Sparano was asked this Question yesterday at the end of his presser.

    He kinda stated that you put a physical guy that stops the run over the weakside the other a pass rusher that is good in coverage. Something to talk about. Also kinda is different than what my response was to your question a few days ago.
     

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