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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by bryan324, Jun 15, 2010.

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  1. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Sub Pending Luxury Box

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    DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm still waiting....painfully.
     
  2. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The free iPhone 4 case program has launched. iPhone 4 owners need to install an app and can select a case from a list. There's more than just Bumpers available.

    Also, the white iPhone 4 has been delayed again.

    Edit: the Incase clear snap case appears to be exactly the same case that mor found on eBay.

    Edit again: iLounge has a guide to the available cases. I went with the PixelSkin HD before even looking at this article. :lol:
     
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  3. Lab3003

    Lab3003 Golden era

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    I just got iPhone 4...

    Well let me say that the hysteria over the iphone, at least in my case, is almost totally untrue, except for the Bluetooth issues reported. I don't have proximity sensor issues, I don't have death grip issues, I don't think the device is overly delicate.

    The screen is gorgeous! The GPS is dramatically more accurate compared to my iPhone 3G. The sound volume is louder. The phone calls are clearer; the noise-cancelling tech is awesome. You can make a call in a loud AT&T Wireless center and not only will the receiver hear the conversation clearer, but your own audio will be clearer. I don't know how this works, but I was able to hear without cupping my other ear.

    I am truly truly shocked by how great this device is. I haven't had an opportunity to test FaceTime, nor am I that excited about it, but everything else I used on the phone, including the camera, makes this bar far the best phone in the market. I recommend it to anyone even remotely thinking about upgrading/getting their 1st iPhone.
     
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  4. mor911

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    I got my free bumper case yesterday. It's pretty sweet
     
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  5. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    lucky bastard, I'm still waiting for mine. which one did you get?

    For all you new iP4 owners, check out www.macrumors.com, if you don't already. Besides the bickering & hate, there are people that will gladly help you out on anything Apple related.
     
  6. mor911

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  8. mor911

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    i would... Not sure I'd do it without an upgrade plan (I did... $500+ :pity: ), but the screen alone is the most beautiful thing I've ever laid eyes on. My boss (huge android guy) held in his hands for the 1st time last week and his only words were "wow.... That is pretty. very very pretty"

    EDIT: Holy sheet! 5000 posts!!
     
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  9. vmarcilfan75

    vmarcilfan75 blah...blah...blah... Club Member

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    so how legit are these current rumors about Verizon/Apple hooking up Jan 2011?
    i have verizon really want the iphone but crap like this keeps me from jumping to at&t
     
  10. mor911

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    The rumor has been circulating since 2008. As hard as Verizon sells the Droid, I'd say slim to nil. I would bet more on the fact that Verizon knows that if they keep that rumor fresh, less people will leave for AT&T (I think Desides was going into detail on this earlier).
     
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  11. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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  12. Desides

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    Yes, yes I did. :lol:

    AT&T's recent earnings report talks about diversifying their phone lineup so as to not rely on a "single handset." We all know what that refers to. It sounds like AT&T's exclusivity is coming to an end. But the end of AT&T's exclusivity does not automatically mean the beginning of availability on another network, nor does it mean that network is Verizon. But the iPhone does need a second carrier in the US: the Death Grip is being looked at internationally as an American/carrier problem, because signals in Europe tend to overlap so completely that you're never in an area of marginal signal strength in the first place.

    Of course, Europe is a group of small-ish countries spread out over a relatively compact, non-diverse geographic area. The good ol' USA is massive, and carriers have to negotiate with individual municipalities to add cell towers. This complicates matters tremendously. (This is also why US broadband availability and speeds lag behind those of Europe and South Korea.)

    Anyway, still waiting on my PixelSkin HD.
     
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  13. Bpk

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    I'm 90% sure I'll go to the Apple store today to return/switch my 3GS for an iPhone4.
     
  14. Boik14

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    If VZW got the I phone they would need to totally redesign the phone because it would need a whole new chipset. It it does happen it would be when 4g launches and its compatible across networks.
     
  15. vmarcilfan75

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    yea i know he did. 1. i was being lazy :yes: and 2. wasnt sure if the other earlier rumors mentioned Apple making a CDMA iphone(another rumor) :lol:
     
  16. Desides

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    There's a rumor that Apple is working with Qualcomm on a single chipset that can receive both GSM and CDMA. Not sure if it includes LTE, but you'd have to imagine that's part of the package too.

    Apple's dream is to manufacture just one model of iPhone and sell it everywhere.
     
  17. Dannyg28

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    I posted a question in the question and answer forum, but i figure i might as well post this here too, as it will porbably get more views and responses. How would you guys say the Galaxy S compares to the Iphone, from the reviews and videos i've seen it actually tends to out perform the Iphone 4 in certain respects. I was wondering if anyone here has any first hand experienec with both so as to give me a clearer picture however
     
  18. Desides

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    Everything I've seen suggests that the Galaxy S is just yet another Android phone with features that attempt to mimic the iPhone but ultimately fall short.
     
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  19. Bpk

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    Bought it. Love it so far. Ordered a case.

    Reception same as 3GS... both on ****ty AT&T network so have equally bad droppage.
     
  20. texasPHINSfan

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    just saw interesting report on CNBC....

    Android versus Apple:
    Android 32% U.S. market share versus apple 22%
    Android has 17% global market versus apple's 14%

    Wow, i thought Apple had been leading, seriously. Color me surprised
     
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  21. mor911

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    Nah there's like 7000 different android phones across every network vs 4 different iPhone models on a select network in every region. If they weren't in the lead then that would be just shameful.

    Now if there was a single android model that was even close to any of the iphone models, THEN I'd be surprised.
     
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  23. Desides

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    Interesting only in the sense that it's biased, not necessarily because it's true. The comparison isn't equivalent: they're comparing all Android phones to one iPhone. Of course Android is going to come out in the lead, there are dozens of Android phones and one iPhone on sale at any given time. (Okay, two iPhones if you count the $99 model, but you get the point.)

    A better comparison would be "all devices that use Android" and "all devices that use iOS." After all, isn't that the real battle--which mobile OS is more dominant? Toss in some iPod Touch sales figures and Android's lead evaporates. Toss in iPad sales and Apple's lead is cemented.

    So how is it that Apple can ship iOS on just three devices and blow away Android, which ships on dozens of devices? Hmm.

    Also, that Business Insider article is full of LOL, especially that snarky "Apple is closed, Android is open" BS at the end. If Android is open, why does Google have a kill switch that can remotely delete anything they want from your Android-using device? Doesn't sound very open to me.
     
  24. mor911

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    swagger jacker... I just said that. Just not so smart sounding.
     
  25. Desides

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    I went a little more in-depth. :lol:
     
  26. Two Tacos

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    Any android phone user can personally install any app that they want from any source, with out jail breaking. Google uninstalled some that violated the Android Market TOS and were installed through the Android Market. An android user can install those same apps (though why one would want to I don’t know as they were lying about their functions) from a different source and Google could not kill them. The Android Market is not open source, the OS is. You are misrepresenting what happened just like the story in question did.
     
  27. Desides

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    You realize these statements are contradictory, right?

    Except I wasn't talking about the Android Market. You are. I commented on the meme that Android--not the Android Market specifically, but Android the ecosystem in general--is open, while the iOS ecosystem is closed. It's not true. I used Google's kill switch as an example, because Apple has been criticized as a walled garden/closed platform for having their own app kill switch. Why is Apple's kill switch proof of iOS being closed, while Google's kill switch somehow irrelevant to whether or not Android is open?

    There's more to being open than releasing your source code. Likewise, there's more to being closed than an approval process for applications. As an example, you don't need Adobe's permission to post a Flash app on the Internet, but at the same time, Flash is a closed technology. It's one of the most closed technologies in existence today, in fact, right up there with Windows.
     
  28. Two Tacos

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    nope. you can install apps from any source. If the source has a TOS that is voilated you might not be able to keep them though.



    You should have been talking about the android market though... That is where the apps came from and why they were killed. If they didn't come from there they wouldn't have been killed. The market has a TOS that allows them to do this. In fact it's this TOS that is the main reason I get most of my apps through the Market place, if the app is unsafe it will be killed.

    If I wanted I could write an app and put it on my phone now, with out jail breaking/rooting. You cannot do that with an iphone. In addition I have access to my phones OS code to help me write the app. That is what is meant by saying its open source.

    Also, who said that the kill switch is proof that Apples OS is closed? That is silly. Apples OS is closed because they haven't released the source code to the public and control every app available for it. Some people see this as an quality control advantage, others see it as stifling corporate control. I suspect most don't care.

    Some carriers lock down the versions of Android on phones purchased through them, sort of like Apple does, controlling upgrades and locking out specific OS functions (like free tethering which is a function of 2.2+). Pointing that out would be a far better way to make your point I think. If I correctly understand your point being that just because Android is open source doesn't mean that there are no controls on the OS. Which can be true, depending on the phone. Android is still open source and iOS is not though. That doesn't change.
     
  29. Desides

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    Think it through. :up:

    Why should I have been talking about something that Business Insider wasn't? Again, this is what BI said:

    And I responded:

    The Android Market isn't the topic here. Never was. You somehow misinterpreted this to refer to the Android Market, but no one's talking about the Android Market versus the App Store. The subject you initially brought up is Android phone sales verses iPhone sales. But that topic really should have been Android devices versus iOS devices, regardless of whether they're phones, PMPs, tablets, or anything else. Somehow that's become Android Market versus App Store, which is about as far from the original comparison as one can get.
     
  30. Two Tacos

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    Please.... You made a "snarky" statement that was wrong for the reasons I listed above. I brought up no subject, I responded on you saying that the Google kill switch of the apps was proof that Android was closed, which is the topic I have been debating with you. It's all in the thread for you to review.
     
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  31. Desides

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    Again, your defense centers around the Android Market, which I never mentioned or included. I brought up the app kill switch simply because it was the most direct and obvious example of the manner in which Google can exert direct and extreme control over a supposedly open mobile OS. I could have mentioned the fact that Google has its own closed Android source code tree, that they've issued cease and desist orders to Android modders, that Google develops new versions of Android completely in private, or that there's a group dedicated to replacing the closed source code in Android with truly open source code... but hey, why use all my ammo at once?

    You want to advocate Android? Make your own thread! You can kick it off with this article. :up:

    Back to the topic of the thread, Vimeo has released an HTML5 video player that works on the iPhone, and iOS 4.1 is in beta testing along with an unknown device, possibly a new Apple TV.
     
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    Just got an iPhone 4. Absolutely love it. FaceTime really works great. Tried it out with a couple of friends. I am happy to have left the Windows Mobile universe to something more efficient and easier to use. I especially love the iheart radio app.
     
  33. Desides

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    Congrats, 1184. :up:

    The Steve has just announced iOS 4.1. Game Center is finally coming out, the camera now takes HDR photos, bugfixes galore.
     
  34. Desides

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    Game Center will match you up with your friends, or automatically match you up with strangers "if you don't have any friends."

    Demoing a great-looking one on one medieval combat game. It's multiplayer.

    Steve: "That's on a phone!"
     
  35. Desides

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    AirTunes being renamed AirPlay, will stream videos, music, and other media to wireless Apple devices.
     
  36. Desides

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    iOS 4.2 (not 4.1) will bring the iPhone 4's features to the iPad in November. Free update for iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch owners.
     
  37. vmarcilfan75

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    what does the comment "no real camera" mean on the new touch? someone posted that.
    are they referring to the pixels or something?
     
  38. Desides

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    No real camera? No clue.
     
  39. vmarcilfan75

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    someone made that comment on an article at Gizmodo.

    trying to figure what he meant since im a tech newb :lol:

    guess he was just posting BS
     

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