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Are 22 QB's better than Sanchez, Henne?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan7171, Aug 31, 2010.

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  1. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/17209/are-22-qbs-better-than-sanchez-henne

    From Tim Graham

     
  2. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Chicken Little strikes again.

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  3. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Who cares what John Clayton says? The dude's got a ponytail!!!
     
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  4. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    I honestly believe in my heart that Sanchez has about a 5% chance at being elite.

    Don't be suprised if the Jets cut him in a couple years and you see him standing outside of a home depot.
     
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  5. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Lmao seriously???? Pics!!!!
     
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  6. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    I wouldn't have a problem with Henne's rating on that scale had Sanchez not been before him. I realize Henne is a work in progress, but so in Sanchez - with even worse stats in arguably better conditions.

    The logic isn't there; the Jets have a better supporting cast (allegedly, as the media states), yet Sanchez produces poorer numbers. How does that equate to having more upside, exactly?
     
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  7. MikeHoncho

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    He's got the "it" factor. When that develops he'll be a "legit" "warrior" with "heart" and a "killer instict" who "thrives under pressure" with "eyes on the back of his head".
     
  8. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Sorry bro. Don't lose hope.
     
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  9. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    i appreciate your overzealous use of quotation marks :lol:
     
  10. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I hope Henne develops into a star QB, but I agree that he's not there yet. He may get there this season, though. Time will tell.
     
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  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    How the hell is Flacco at 12?
     
  12. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Sanchez started as a rookie, Henne did not. Sanchez is ranked #23. Henne is ranked #25. He gave Sanchez a 50% chance of being elite and Henne 45% chance of being elite. It's not like he ranked Sanchez much higher than Henne. You're putting Henne on a pedestal compared to Sanchez, IMO.
     
  13. Finsanity

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  14. Bpk

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    Lol @ the idea someone can accurately guesstimate one QB at 50% chance of being elite but another at 45%.

    Amazingly accurate methods must be used to be able to distinguish a 5% difference in probablitiy of becoming elite!!!

    lol.

    Truly just grist for disussion. Not much solid basis for the rankings.
     
  15. frozenfin

    frozenfin Well-Known Member

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    Flacco should not be categorized as "elite" in any way. Out of 5 playoff games he's completed more than 50% of his passes only once, last year in a loss vs Colts when he also threw two INTs. He's in a similar situation as Sanchez... not asked to do much and let the defense & running game take care of business. Would never be able to carry a team on his shoulders like a Peyton Manning or Donovan McNabb.

    A guy like Henne should be ranked higher than guys like Alex Smith, Garrard, Hasselbeck, and Campbell. He has more upside than those mediocre / washed-up QBs... they have played for a number of years, we pretty much know what their ceiling is. Henne has 13 starts under him, and now with a game-changing receiver he will have opportunity to reach more potential.

    Matt Moore at #31 is interesting, I would have put him higher. The 2nd worst starting QB in the NFL does not have a winning record as starter (6-2) and an 84.5 rating. Kevin Kolb at #24 is so far proven less than Moore... and less than Henne, thank you.
     
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  16. finserg

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    Flacco is a hell of a player ,why not to like about him besides him wooping us :cry:
     
  17. frozenfin

    frozenfin Well-Known Member

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    Flacco doesn't beat us... the Ravens D does.
     
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  19. FinsAreLife

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    Some of the QBs he has listed as elite is just a joke
     
  20. Bpk

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    I have crunched the numbers using CLayton's formula and I am 4.9% likely to become an elite Quarterback this season.

    Jessica Simpson outranks me at 14.5%, due to her time with Tony Romo.
     
  21. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Tim Graham wrote another article talking about Sanchez being ranked higher than Henne??!!?? Shocker. Yawn.
     
  22. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Graham was more posting info on an article Henne wrote.

    Honestly, I see them as being in a fairly even race at this point, neither has enough body of work to justify much. This season will go a long way to determining which is the better.
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks that Matt Schaub is better then 1/2 the guys in the "elite" category? The whole list is a joke in my opinion and it has nothing to do with where Henne is to be honest.
     
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    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    i just said sanchez should not be above henne, which i think is true. it has nothing to do with "pedestals" or what year they started. henne has done more with less in fewer starts.
     
  25. NolePhin

    NolePhin Look out for D-Bess

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    This guy is a 56 year old fetus. Kind of scares me a little bit.
     
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  26. MikeHoncho

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  27. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    If Sanchez were a baseball player, he'd be "gritty" like David Eckstein, and the SABR nerds would ****ing hate him.
     
  28. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    How Alex Smith is above Henne is beyond me. B U S T
     
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  29. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Exactly. Two years ago, every ESPN analyst (with the emphasis on ANAL) said Miami was no better than a 3 or 4 win team, even with Chad Pennington.

    :tongue2: on them !
     
  30. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    ESPN hates any Miami team, just look at any "highlights" film from any team. The package ALWAYS includes that teams players beating out a Miami DB or a Marlin striking out against another teams pitcher, or hitting a HR off a Marlin pitcher, or a Heat player being beaten, a Hurricane getting beat on a pass or a Hurricane fumble or INT, or a Panther goalie letting in a goal.....

    I dare you to start watching and counting the times a Miami/So Fla team is used in those highlight packages....it sounds paranoid, but its real, just watch. BTW those packages rarely if ever have any anti-New York or Dallas Cowboy video in them.
     
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    And if you happen to miss one, they'll probably loop and mirror it when they're out of footage.
     
  32. SICK

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    john clayton looks like a bowling pin.
     
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  33. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Did you just channel Ron Jaworski?
     
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  34. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    who gives a sh*t what a wanna be expert says? Rankings based on BS opinions mean squat. The mere fact that A Smith is ahead of Henne when A SMith has shown more reason to rank him a bust proves it is a subjective ranking. Which mean it isnt worth a much as what I wipe my arse with
     
  35. finfansince72

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    I think Clayton is usually pretty sharp about the NFL honestly but this one is a head scratcher. Henne never had a legit #1 receiver and Ronnie Brown got hurt, hard to say, "defenses figured him out", good defenses will "figure out" teams with little real talent on offense pretty quick. Kind of hard to basically throw the guy under the bus when he really didn't have any talent around him.
     
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    I don't see any rhyme or reason to his list. I mean he has a bunch of QBs who he gives zero to slightly above zero chance of being elite rated better than QBs he gives very good chance of being elite. :no:
     
  37. MikeHoncho

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    Best job ever. Even better than being a weatherman/person.

    Just write stuff, and be held accountable for nothing. You don't have to be right or even support your statements with facts, just write and we'll pay you for it.
     
  38. CaribPhin

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    I am almost 100% sure after reading that list that John Clayton does not watch tape.
     
  39. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    You should see his Wide Receiver rankings, where Kim Kardashian is an All-Pro.
     
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