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DC Mike Nolan compares Wake and Dumervil

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...-dolphins-our-first-coordinator-thursday.html

    -Did Nolan really say "innards"?

    -Dumervil uses his hands magnificently well, Wake is the better athlete with a better get off and flexibility.
     
  2. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    I just hope our defense doesn't do what Nolan's defense did midway last year.
     
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  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, the way I see it, by the time Nolan's D slumps, the offense should be hitting on all cylinders around Game #7 or so...:D
     
  4. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like the way you think.
     
  5. The Aqua Crush

    The Aqua Crush New Member

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    I like that our D faces buffalo in week one. Yes i know they could suprise but it's a smaller step than facing Indy or NO in week 1.
     
  6. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    haha, so true :lol:
     
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  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Is this a good sign, or a bad sign?
     
  8. alen1

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    What makes Dumervil stand out is that he has long arms and he is built low to the ground so when he sinks his hips, he powers through very well. He's also got a quick first step, of course, but I think his long arms really make that bulrush lethal.
     
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  9. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    i'm excited to see the defense; i'm just distracted by the personnel moves :lol:
     
  10. NolePhin

    NolePhin Look out for D-Bess

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    This ^
     
  11. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    IMO we're more gifted along the defensive line than Denver is/was.
     
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  12. CrunchTime

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    Zach Thomas didnt fit the mold either .He had none of the physical attributes but he sure had those hard to define intangibles .:yes:
     
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  13. texasPHINSfan

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    Speaking of which, we should move him to SS. We could use the help :lol:
     
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  14. MikeHoncho

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    We can compare him to Nolan's aunt sally. He's Cameron Wake, and his coming to get some unfortunate bastards this season.
     
  15. padre31

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    Is that coming from your innards?
     
  16. Da 'Fins

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    Nolan raises one of the same points I did in the Wake thread Crunchtime had on Wake. We'll see how he survives the whole season and playing more downs. Plus the scouting factor.

    But, I agree with Alen - front 7 is better than Denver's. I like the front 7 overall better than last year - as far as cohesion and certainly over the next 3 seasons.

    So many other questions however. Not liking that going into the season.

    I liked the Henning comments on Henne - the only statistic that matters in the upcoming Buffalo game is a "Win."

    This really is a MUST win given the schedule after this week (Yeah, I know, every week in the NFL is a must win - the next game is the most important of the season, for sure, as always). A loss Sunday and it's not the end of the world but it will be extremely tough to crawl out of given the schedule following.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    it is good. He is excited.
     
  18. ToddsPhins

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    Wake just had 39.5 sacks over 2 seasons on Madden & finished 3rd in DPOY twice, so Dumervil can bite me!
     
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  19. PhinsRock

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    Seeing Nolan's defense is one of my strongest desires for Sunday. Henne to Marshall for TD's would rank a damn close 2nd though!
     
  20. ascii

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    Never gets old. :lol:
     
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  21. texasPHINSfan

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    glad somebody got it :lol:
     
  22. PHINANALYST

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    as i stated before ... its the increase in reps (endurance) that concerns me ... as we really need him as a tenacious pass rusher ... since we have NO ONE else to fill that role
     
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  23. DePhinistr8

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    I'm hoping that our scheme is what allows us to get consistent pressure, while maximizing Wake's natural skills.

    Hopefully we find out sunday.
     
  24. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    Very good point, and something I wonder about as well.
     
  25. padre31

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    Nolan had to say something disparaging, that is the nature of coaches.

    If it weren't "endurance' it would be "pass coverage" or "run stopping" Coaches just will not give unqualified praise of a player..evah!
     
  26. Oghma

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    All coaches not named Rex Ryan at least
     
  27. padre31

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    Well, as Hardknocks shows, even Rexxy bashes his own players in practice.

    The nature of Coaches is to push push push.

    If Ronnie B ran for 2k yds this season, Sparano would talk about his missed blocks, that is just how it is.
     
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    It certainly is... Our D last year sucked against the run. Except Dumervil, DJ Williams, Champ and Dawkins ( when healthy ) we kinda sucked in the second half. I think that when tensions began between McDaniels and Nolan.
     
  29. alen1

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    I think the biggest issue with that defensive line last year was late in games, they could not provide a pass rush and when you know its a passing situation late and you need the stop, it's kind of hard to throw the kitchen sink at a quarterback.
     
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  30. Oghma

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    Fair enough, I have to admit that I've been unable to watch Hard Knocks. His public, media facing persona seems somewhat different though.

    Witness, for example:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2009/11/ryan_revis_is_t.html

    I couldn't imagine one of the Dolphins coaches saying something like that.
     
  31. alen1

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    Not saying you are reading too much into that comment that Ryan made about the Jets running a Man-Free coverage there but I think a lot of people have read a lot into it. Man-Free is the number one coverage in pro football. Every team runs it to some extent, some run it a lot. Indianapolis runs it quite a bit. What I'm trying to say here is for those who have argued Revis is not the best cornerback because of what Ryan said, then you can say that for most cornerbacks out there. Personally, I think Revis is right up there. Nnamdi Asomugha might be better. Charles Woodson is definitely top three IMO.
     
  32. Oghma

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    Totally agree, I'm not going to argue that Revis is not a top 3 corner in the league. It's too hard (IMO) to separate the best corners due to the limited film that you can actually see on them from watching the TV feeds, but he's defnitely up in that mix.

    All I'm saying is that Ryan seems to have a completely different style of media communication compared to most of the other coaches in the league. He's not afraid to come out and sing the praises of his players without couching the praise in qualifiers.

    Whether or not that style will help bring success to his team will remain to be seen.
     
  33. djphinfan

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    when you watch offenses in todays game and the precision of the great QB, it becomes more apparent that if you dont have a lethal pass rush, your gonna get cut up..wake is as important to this team as almost anyone...
     
  34. Bjorn

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    Damn, he must suck if he only gets 3rd. If you ain't first your last.
     
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