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  1. FinFan316

    FinFan316 Banned

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    Why? Do Jets fans tell the truth about their team?

    I havent said that anyone is in denial because of how far they go to make their point. One is in denial if he says, "this lost doesnt' affect the season" or "you can't make an analysis off this game". Thats not only being a denialist, thats being foolish.

    Sunday nights game mattered (see the standings) and every game can be analyzed in context of what it will mean to the season. Every one. Yet somehow, in your mind, that makes me a d-bag.

    There is an old parable about men being strangers in their own land...meaning that people with the same interests cannot bear to hear the truth reported.

    Its cool. I wasn't friends with anyone here before so I havent lost any friends. Its actually an amusing dynamic.
     
  2. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I don't have anything to recover. You're the one parading around like you found something so I thought rather than watch you continue to continue to make a fool out of yourself, I might say something. Running around shouting that you found something that in fact is nothing. A Mock Draft? Oooohhhhhhh!!!! The shame, how can I make it. You're hung up on a Mock Draft when 99% of people realize they are no more than entertainment that drives page views.

    Say whatever you want. People don't overlook much. So, now you're the only one who will say something? How kind of you to take up the torch for all the downtroden.

    Of course you are sunshine. You're the only one with the stones to set the world right. Thank you for taking the time out of your day. How ever has the world made it without you here. Everyone else is just sheep now?

    This has to be an act right? I no one can actually be this way. No one. Not without trying very hard anyways.
     
  3. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    You yourself said "I get thing earlier than most". So that doesn't mean you're superior? Let me guess we're just attacking you. Of course you did call everyone who doesn't agree with you losers, but who's noticing that. Of course, we are the people with issues. We have to be. Afterall who doesn't respect someone who tells you how smart they are, insults people and then tells you you're the ****ed up ones for reacting to it.

    And we're in denial.

    And as if right on cue,..........the guy who gets thing earlier than most can't understand whats happening and calls it absurd.

    Go figure.
     
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  4. Conuficus

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    Killer actually has a clue and will make valid points. This is far, far. far different than that.
     
  5. FinFan316

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    Unless I am mistaken, you were the one here that pointed out that some people here have real bona fides as talent evaluators. No? Was that not you? So, when I looked into the details of your competence,...the very competence that you paraded....its now "for entertainment purposes only". LOL...you remind me of a politician from Arkansas.

    I dont know what about me you find so offensive (other than me perhaps wrecking your reputation as a draft analysis). I have never said that I alone will set the world straight. I have never said that I am absolutely right...conversely, I have said, I may very well be wrong. Why this has by-passed you, I'll never know.

    I tell the truth as I see it. I give my unvarnished opinions. I'll stand by them until they are proven wrong. If people challenge those opinions with red herrings, I will call that out. If challenged with valid points, I will acknowledge that there is certainly a different point of view than mine. I have always done that.

    No one knows whats going to happen with 100% certainty. I know many things THAT WILL NOT happen, but thats a lesser skill, admittedly. For example, I think I can very accurately (100%), eliminate 25% of the league from playoff contention after three games. I could have told you with great certainty that Jimmy Clausen was not going to be the first pick in the draft. :up:

    But offering opinions and standing by them is not a character flaw. Regardless of how you feel about it.
     
  6. padre31

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    :hi5:

    3 games into the season, with a unusual for the SparanoPhins 2-1 record and with a shot to win on the last series of the last game and a MNF game this week at home, and yet, to pass the time there is a pig wrestling match ongoing.

    Defense is really young and will improve as the season rolls along.

    Que Forrest Gump.
     
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  7. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    You wrecked my reputation?

    Really?

    What's offensive about you is the fact that when people did tell you to calm down, we understand you're emotional, it was one game etc., you told they were losers. People who hadn't done anything wrong than refute you're emotional one liner. Maybe it's the fact you walk in and tell everyone else you the guy who gets it earlier than most.

    What do you get? People have damn near had to hit you over the head with a hammer and you still ask 'why'? No one had an issue with you saying whether the fins were elite, hell most probably don't care whether they are or not. The thing that got people was you walk around like your **** doesn't stink, when in fact you're wading through it. What about that makes anyone want to have you around? Yes, -please tell us about yourself some more.

    You missed the fact you're acting as if everyone who doesn't agree with you is a loser and have said as much.

    I said there are people more qualified on here than you. There are. That's a fact. I don't decide if I am more qualified than you, that's a decision thats not mine. I never said I was one, other people did that for you to see. You keep bringing up Clausen as if that matters much. That's you feather? A Mock Draft? Who the **** cares about Mock Drafts? Mock Drafts? **** lets gets the one I did earlier that had Sergio Kindle going higher than he did, or the one where Sergio Render was #32 at the start of the 2009 season. Hell keep 'em coming. Lets get them all out here and do that it will be fun. We can have smores and ****. There's more than Clausen, hell why stop there bring them all out.

    That's wrecking my reputation? What reputation? What is my reputation? Tell me what it is? If you've wrecked it you should know what it is. Hell if I know what it is. You're more concerned with it than I am, that's why you're searching things out, but I'm sure you figured that out already. I just think that eventually, if I keep it up I can get that synapse in your head to fire. I think others are trying the same thing in that regard.

    You should keep digging into my background and you'll see what I've said about Mock Drafts many times. You'll see it. If you did in fact know as much as you think, you'd know that much - I'm sure it would illustrate such a stellar observation. Like when you thanked someone for an inside joke to me as if it supported you opinion. Everyone else in the place knew what it was............except who? But, yeah you you're right on top of things when you get me flipping my stance on Mock Drafts to where they are for entertainment value. Good job catching that.

    Do even have a clue where the actual value of a draft site is? I tell you what, you want to wreck my reputation; tell me where the value really is. Does the value lie in a Mock Draft or something else? Answer that, and then you'll know what a Mock Draft is worth. I'll tell you what there are Mocks out there right now. 208 days ahead of the draft, but I'm sure they're much, much more than for entertainment value. I'm sure you could have told me that months before the draft, just you're telling me the Fins won't win a playoff game, or that after one loss we're not elite. You can tell others who don't agree with you where their values lie, you're the guy who gets things earlier than most afterall. ( I mean that really is classic ).

    This is just classic genius. Effin classic. Any more of these laying around?

    I'm still holding out hope for that synapse though.
     
  8. Phinatic19

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    All this arguing about nonsense is such a waste of time.
     
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  9. Conuficus

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    That's true.
     
  10. FinFan316

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    For someone doesnt care about "reputation" and mock drafts, you sure go off the deep end when brought up...LOL.

    I will keep offering my opinions.

    If people are fine with losing, then that is an attribute of a "loser" and I will label it as such.

    And I am sure you will keep on ranting about what you said in a mock about Clausen was just a ruse to keep people coming back for more.

    I will give you the last word on this subject. Its Friday for Chrissake, and you are still in tears about what I said about your mock draft.

    I will post on the Fins Tuesday....hopefully good news. :hi5:
     
  11. Conuficus

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    :smackhead:

    Edit: I just got it, you're the guy who said we should cut Kendall Langford.
     
  12. Stringer Bell

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    Thats as false of a statement as one could make.
     
  13. Conuficus

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    Don't do it Stringer, it's a trap. I fell into it. Wish I didn't, but I did.
     
  14. FinFan316

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    Ok. We'll see.
     
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    The Saints lost a heartbreaker week 3 where they missed the game winning chip-shot. They "gave the game away" in every sense of the phrase. Would you not contend that they are an "elite" team?

    "Elite"

    Who gives a flying ****?

    Were the 2007 Giants an "elite" team? Weren't the 2007 Patriots supposed to be "elite"?
     
  16. FinFan316

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    Did I? I dont remember that. I have never been that down on KL...I have been much more down on the other DE...I think Langford has pretty much played like a third round pick. Hes steady. Of course, if he did something stupid in the course of a game, I might have said "damn it, cut him"..but I certainly dont remember saying that.
     
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    KP's a good dude. We just give each other **** from time to time but he and I are buds. :knucks:
     
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    Why shouldn't we cut Langford? I never see his name or him getting sacks and he even missed that gimmie interception the other night.

    :shifty:
     
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  19. unluckyluciano

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    Not to be a dick but some of you need to get over it. Seriously, its a sport you pay to watch and something you basically pay to participate in, and if you don't its something you do for free in your free time. If its hurting you that much you should consider not watching anymore as obviously its not that fun for you.
     
  20. FinFan316

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    The Saints are elite by virtue of winning a SB 8 months ago.
     
  21. hugoguzman

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    Him and that bum Randy Starks damn it!
     
  22. GMJohnson

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    Did you not hear the man? He CLEARLY stated that a team must allow 31 points at home before losing elite status. Hey FinFan this dude aint comprehending, I think you're gonna have it to explain it to him one more time...
     
  23. Conuficus

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    This thread is beginning to rival the immortal 'Move Zach Thomas to Safety' in sheer scope.
     
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    Yes we will but even if it comes true, it has nothing to do with you guessing, which is all you can do at this point, and have done for years. Sorry!
     
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  25. Phinatic425

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    This game was too close for someone to base the rest of the season on. THAT is down right foolish. If 1 or 2 plays happened differently we could have won and you would not be acting like our season is already over. The line is too thin to for you to be making such judgements about this team.

    What you are doing is making a mountain out of a molehill and you can continue to think everyone here is foolish or you can realize that not everyone here over reacts as much as you. Or that we don't choose to label the our team after only the 3rd game of the season. Why? Because jumping to conclusions can often make you look like an ***.

    Do I think we should have won this game? Yes.
    Do I think it was an important game? Yes.
    Do I think it's logical to say we're a second-rate team after 3 games? Hell no.

    Especially since we finally have a winning record after the first few weeks.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY3qz2FHvX4"]YouTube - WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?[/ame]

    :lol:
     
  27. Frumundah Finnatic

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    I still dont get why we never did just that.
     
  28. Conuficus

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    Oh jesus. :lol:

    Why did I mention that in this thread?
     
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    This is how I feel about this thread:

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  30. FinFan316

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    I am not making a mountain out of a molehill. I am making an assessment of us losing a game at home (in Primetime), against an opponent missing two offensive weapons, two of its best defensive players, and we were coming off our best practice in two years.

    read what you said..."If 1 or 2 plays happened differently we could have won and you would not be acting like our season is already over."

    But we didnt make 1-2 plays. Elite teams make the plays they need to make to win these games. No different than "almost beat NO last year" and "shoulda" beaten the Colts last year. Bottom line...we didnt.

    Shoulda, woulda, coulda....Didn't.

    What can we draw from all of these close calls but not being able to finish? I call that second-rate.

    If you call it something better, i would love to see you justify it.

    The facts speak for themselves. The teams we beat are collectively 1-5. The team that beat us (after all that was stacked against them) is 2-1, with two wins against the top two division rivals.

    Facts are facts and they are stubborn. All of the "we were close"...and, "if only this had happened"...or, "if that had gone that way"....is wishful nonsense.

    It didn't happen. For the life of me, I dont understand some of you people. I never will.
     
  31. CitizenSnips

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    Cause we don't want to pack it in and give up in week 4? Because some of us don't seem to understand why you bother rooting for a team you think sucks? You're not 'making an assessment' anymore. You've carried your disdain for this team for almost an entire week now. You've probably carried it in your heart for years. (by the way, that's usually a female characteristic) For real dude, quit the crybaby nonsense. Im officially annoyed that somewhere, to someone, you are a representation of our fan base. Man up or root for someone else.

    this is just ridiculous.
     
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    You're being nice. His opinions of the team aside, he is mentally challenged in terms of his ability to articulate an intelligent opinion. This thread has only lasted this long b/c of the comic relief provided by the tomfooelry being stated. Most of us stopped taking him serious around page 2, I know I did. But hey, gotta pass the time between games some kinda way, this is as good as any so enjoy the show till Monday :up:.
     
  33. FinFan316

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    You are the Fan police? You are the final authority of who can root for this team? And how they can do so?

    I never EVER said pack it in and give up in week 4. I have said that elite teams win games that this team lost on Sunday night. I have said I hope I am wrong and I hope we destroy the Pats this week.

    I dont have disdain for the team...not at all. I have disdain for this team blowing games that they should win. As for your comment about being a "female characteristic"...I am not even going to address that kind of chauvinism, but its unbecoming.

    You should not worry how I represent the fan base. People come to me all week and talk about the Fins...why? Because, 1) I know what I am talking about 2) They know I am objective. When I say the Fins are good, they are good. When I say they aren't, they usually are not.
    This board is the only place where that kind of honesty and frankness isn't welcomed.

    I have a mousepad, a tattoo, and a keychain all proudly displayed. I have alot of other stuff at home, but since I am deployed now, I don't have all of it here with me. But touche'.

    I'll be rooting like hell on Tuesday morning at 3 am (when it starts here) and I'll offer some analysis sometime on Tuesday. But we'll see.
     
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    I am "mentally challenged" now? Because we disagree? Seriously? wow.

    Do I need to give you my resume to post now? I have BA degree from St Leo's and I am working on my masters degree in Foreign Relations with a focus on Horn of Africa. I am in the Army and serving in Baghdad. I have been a fan of the Fins since the 70s. Married, two kids, and two dogs. Can I still post?

    I do wish you would elaborate on an "incoherent opinion" that I have stated. Not one that you disagree with, but one that is "unintelligent".
     
  35. Conuficus

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    The Horn of Africa? What cultures does that encompass?

    Just curious.

    You seem to have a good deployment. Considering the intermittent contributions we've had from other deployed service members in Baghdad, you're ability to post regularly far out paces theirs from what I can recall.
     
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    They are Arabs. Most speak French; The Sudan and Somalia are the drivers of instability. Ethiopia (if you can believe it) is the "ideal" nation that we are using as the model to help other countries as they strive to create a stable environment. Al Qaeda has a presence in most of these countries. Djibouti, my next deployment, is right on the tip of Yemen, which provides a whole different series of challenges, encompassing the Arab Peninsula and the HOA.

    Yes, I have a great deployment. I work in the Palace and I have internet at work and in my CHU. So, in that regard, life is good. I get to see Fins games...when they play Prime Time. It could be much, much worse.
     
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    well for what its worth, i appreciate your time there, you and all the others deployed. though we may disagree, i am glad that Dolphins Nation is alive and well in all corners of the earth, and at least we can agree on the love of this country and the love of our football team. stay safe and good luck with your studies.
     
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    No doubt. Thanks for the words. I consider our disagreements here a privelege. Our debates are nothing in the grand scheme.

    I was in a cafe in Italy last year in shorts and the guy, who spoke very little English saw my tattoo and screams out, "Dan Marino"...pretty funny. So Fins fans really are everywhere.

    Studying the world is great, esp since I get to go to the places I am studying. I cant imagine how mundane it would be studying the Middle East or Horn of Africa (or any place) without having feet on the ground and looking into the peoples eyes. Its a great experience. I feel like my life is blessed...and I get to wear my country's uniform. It doesnt get better.

    My wife was able to join me for 2 weeks in France this summer...life is great. Now if the Fins will just win a SB before I die, I can die happy! ;-)
     
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    Please see the first post in the thread. You haven't made anything resembling an intelligent argument, and the knowitall tone of your posts only makes it worse. Good luck with your deployment though :up:.
     
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    That is what you disagree with. But what about it was unintelligent? Big diffrence in just disagreeing and the argument being stupid.
     

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