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For All The Emo Fans Who Want To Give Up On The Season

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by adamprez2003, Oct 6, 2010.

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  1. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    She dropped the charges doode.
     
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  2. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    It isnt...45 mins of possession time against Indy and they lose, dont really see that much in todays NFL...kicking balls out of bounds 2X in 3 weeks, it should be 2X in Carpenter's career, I dont see that expect on Saturday in college or if I go to the local football field, the insane amount of ludacris playcalling that happens, when it is clear they shouldnt be calling whatever foolish play they called...they created 4 TO's one game and lost, oh you know giving up 35 points in one half of a professional football game...yes I find myself often saying, I dont see this from other teams...other teams go with the flow, run to set-up the pass or vice versa, the good teams always look so fluid, Miami looks pained to get first downs...

    Unluck I believe once they get all these guys back, they will be better, but damn bro they have to ball and ball fast...they cant go 2-6...which is something looking at the teams coming up could happen...
     
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  3. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i feel very confident about the patriots. i think that game has been circled with a bullseye after the meltdown. the jets will be a battle. i think we'll come out on top but it will be tough coming down to the last possession in all likelihood
     
  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I wouldnt be, they melted down in ideal conditions, nevermind in 20 degree weather....:lol:...I wish there was no bye week this week, the past 2 weeks left such a crappy taste in my mouth...
     
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  5. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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  6. texasPHINSfan

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  7. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    teams have controlled the clock and lost especially the way our d folded. 4 to's dude I watched the cowgurls create 6 one game against buffalo. The only reason they didn't give up 35 points is because buffalo sucked. The play calling? Jets were ready to fire their oc a couple of weeks ago because of his ludicrious play calling.
    Like I said we aren't anything special, we just have failed to be consistent. It happens. Again I reference the cowboys.
     
  8. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    Yeah, I mean.. I don't know how old you are adamp, but I'd be classified in the younger generation of Dolphin fans (younger than 30), and (aside from 1 game on Week 17 in 2008) I've seen no indication that this organization can win a game with such huge implications as that one has potential to carry.

    I'm not a pessimistic person by nature, but I sure as hell am when it comes to Dolphins football. I suppose that's what happens when you grow up a fan of an organization that has put a mediocre to below-average product on the field for your entire existence.
     
  9. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    there is nothing more dangerous than a team that was embarrassed on a rematch in the same season. we may lose the game before we play the patriots because we will be looking ahead but we will have an A game aginst New England in rd 2. this isnt a case of them being a better team. this is a case of us shooting ourselves in the foot repeatedly
     
  10. MikeHoncho

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  11. SeanP

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    I know how you feel. I try to look for the positives though on what can happen. So far our failures haven't been anything like "this player is god awful all 4 games this year." So that gives me hope that this isn't a bad team, and has a chance to make things happen.

    I wouldn't say I expect a win, but I don't think the odds are any less likely than they were going into that last game, assuming our ST unit gets its **** together.
     
  12. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yeah i feel sorry for you twenty somethings. im 43 and actually saw the superbowls (i was 5 :lol:) its tough to come in at the tail end of marino and then get stuck watching the wannstedt years. i was a full scale critic through the wannstedt years, saban years and cameron years. once we got parcells things changed. we are building this team the right way. it might not be as fast as we all would want but this is going to be a real ferocious team soon. just hang in there. all that pain will soon go away
     
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  13. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i cant. its too easy :lol:
     
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  14. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    This is going to sound real bad, but I'm 25 and already mindful of that internal clock. You know, the one that makes you ponder "can I live a full-life, followed by death, without ever seeing the Dolphins win a SB?" Well, I've yet to see them advance past the divisional round of the playoffs (and everytime they've advanced that far, they've been taken behind the woodshed and beaten like they stole something).

    It's a scary thought for sure. And being a Red Sox fan doesn't help matters because I know its certainly possible.
     
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  15. texasPHINSfan

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    we can win big games:
    http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=241220015

    we can win at Gillete:
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008092104/2008/REG3/dolphins@patriots#tab:recap

    :up:
     
  16. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    I hate to awaken any repressed memories, so I apologize in advance, but this game has alot more in common with a potential Week 17 showdown against New England than either of those matchups you cited. And as you might guess, it didn't end well for us:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212290nwe.htm
     
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  17. djphinfan

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    The difference in level of play on the road vrs at home is very disturbing..

    year 3 in the rebuilding project, expect bumps in the road, always evaluate personnel moving forward..are we not good enough talent wise to play better the last 2 weeks, or is our special team's the worst in history.....the data says yes, our special teams is the culprit..
     
  18. krypto

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    Aint it ironic that the OP is bashing the realistic ones as "emo"???
     
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  19. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    trust me. one more offseason where we add three or four good players and we are in the championship at the very least. we are very, very close. for all the angst of the last ten years its all about to finally pay off.
     
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  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    dude the Red Sox never won, 04 and 07 never happened.....
     
  22. Roman529

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    Football is a game of momentum. If you looked how we played against the Vikings (during the first three quarters) we were clicking on offense and our defense was shutting pretty much everyone down (with the exception of AP, who rarely gets shut down by anyone). We then made two fumbles and let the Vikes back into game. The same thing happened against the Pats......we were controlling the game and line of scrimmage before Henne's picks.

    I look at this as a bump in the road. It is like a baseball game where your normally reliable pitcher doesn't have his best stuff and gets blown up. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong in the 2nd half. Yes our Special Teams sucked but I think you can fix your blocking schemes and correct this.

    I am sure the Phins are going to be 50-100% better on Special Teams from this point onward. We still have a really tough schedule but I think we can go into Green Bay and play with some pride. I was listening to the New England and NY stations slamming the Phins and saying we were done. I think this team will turn it around starting with Green Bay. We are 2-2 and the season is far from over.
     
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  23. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    So you're telling me there's a chance...
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  24. Southbeach

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    You keep fighting the good fight my friend. We will be laughing soon.
     
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  25. Coral Reefer

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    Back in Miami
    :lol:

    Love that movie.

    Always kills me that he mistakes the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor when it was the Russians.

    I expected to click on this link and see another long winded "be a real fan" type argument.

    Was a great change of pace Adamprez! :up:
     
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  26. muscle979

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    We have a good young corps of talent. The answer is becoming more and more obvious every week that we are the third best team in the division because of coaching. Why else would a team be so frustratingly inconsistent for so long? With well coached teams you know what you're going to get week in and week out. Look at a team like the Ravens or Steelers. They will lose occassionally but you will get pretty much what you expect to get from them and they will never be on the wrong end of what just happened to us. You won't wonder which Steelers team is going to show up on Sunday.

    I don't want Tony Sparano to fail. Believe me. But we have a lot of good players on the team and after a while you start running out of places to point your finger. When are we suddenly going to get stacked with all kinds of good players? How many does it take? We already have several good players in every unit of the team and we're still falling behind. We have good linemen, good linebackers, I believe a more than capable QB, good RBs, one very good CB, an outstanding slot receiver plus a top five wideout in football, even a pretty good kicker and punter. What is it really going to take here? That's what I'm dying to know.
     
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  27. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    thanks. thought i'd lighten up the mood :lol: and for some reason that scene always psyches me up after a bad loss
     
  28. sdboutlaw

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    Agreed completely. I think this might be the difference between generations as the Gen X'ers and the Boomers have more of a sense of long term projects and the understanding that some things just take time. When you take the Wanny years and instead of improving, add Saban + Cameron, you simply get a 5 year project to dig yourself out. On the other hand, the Millenials were all born with USB ports in place of umbilical cords and are more accustomed to everything just being delivered right that second. ;)

    Besides, the team is very young as a whole and everyone (and by everyone, I mean me) was saying that the team would either light the world on fire because of sheer talent, or would go through a lot of growing pains as all that talent gelled together during this season.

    So relax Stellas...the Dolphins too shall get their groove back. And if you're still worried, just remember....this could have been the 62-7 loss to the Jaguars in the playoffs. :D
     
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  29. steveincolorado

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    Post of the decade:up: Your my hero:hi5:
     
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  30. adamprez2003

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    well look at it this way. we're not starting from the same place the steelers and ravens did. we're coming from 1-15. that means major overhauls every season as we redo the entire roster. they only have to add to missing pieces. this year we started the season with 4 new starters on offense and 6 new starters on defense. that's 10 out of 22. now the good thing is alot of those look like they are permanent solutions so next year we may only have 3 or 4 new starters. that's the point when you can start out the season on a tear because you have the year to year continuity. For us, it will take a few weeks to jell but we're at the 4 week period at 2-2. you have to figure by week 6 we will have all if not most of the kinks worked out and the flashes ive seen from this team make me very psyched to see them when everything is clicking. a defense that has dominated 3 out of 4 games, an offense that moves the ball with ease in 2 out of 4 games, man all we gotta do is get consistent and considering how many new pieces, you can understand why its taking so long. you have to think its going to come soon though aand when it does man watch out. its going to be a party on these boards
     
  31. djphinfan

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    man JS are you pissed off..i feel you man, but I think when the smoke clears, the last 2 weeks were completely the fault of abysmal special teams that completely destroyed any kind of game plan for both offense and defense and momentum..for christs sake's that momentum that we built up as a fanbase was destroyed singlehandedly by special team's..it really did.

    I think Sparano let his loyalty get the best of him and it reared its ugly face at home....I think he's a good coach JS, and he does learn from his mistake's..
     
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    :knucks:
     
  33. muscle979

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    The Ravens were a five win team in 2007. Sure they weren't as bad as we were but everything wasn't exactly great either.
     
  34. FaninPatsyLand

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    I disagree wholeheartedly and find it insulting you are even insinuating it. Again, it has more to do with growing up rooting for an organization that has put a mediocre to below-average product on the field for our entire lives.

    I don't care what type of personality you might naturally have, the performance of this organization in recent years breeds pessimism, especially when you know no success.
     
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    It's not an insinuation, and for you to find insult in such is reaching in a major way. It is a very brief summary of characteristics of different generations that can be supported by a simple google search. In fact, let me help you: http://legalcareers.about.com/od/practicetips/a/GenerationY.htm

    I would also submit that it is more difficult for those who have seen the success and then watched the franchise crash and burn then it is for those who have never seen success at all. However, it is also key to remember that when you have three regimes of crap to clean up, that it will not happen overnight. I'm sorry to burst your (general, not specific) bubble if you thought that bringing in Marshall and Dansby meant we were Super Bowl bound, but we aren't, and we weren't, and all the pre-season "forecasters" did nothing but blow smoke up some very hopeful rear ends.

    Reality is, we have another one, maybe even two years of progress before the expectation should exist that we be that type of team. This is exactly why there was a small part of me hoping that the Phins wouldn't pull out the AFC East the year after the 1 win season; because it created expectations and hope that were years ahead of its time.
     
  36. SeanP

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    You are right, young people typically do expect quicker gratification than the older generations do.

    But there's another thing at play here. You have to realize the emotional investment that comes with rooting for a team. The old timers have gotten some sort of return for their investment. They've been rewarded with a championship.

    The Younger fans however have been hoodwinked a few times, and are getting jaded. I'm not there yet, but I can understand how some people can be so pessimistic. It's rough wanting your team to do nothing more than succeed year in and year out, and being met only with disappointment. Signing on and believing in something, only to be let down, while other teams are doing it on a yearly basis (especially divisional teams like the Patriots).

    It may be part instant gratification, but its part being demoralized too. It's part of the reason the Jets fans (aside from being Jets fans) up until this year were so quick to snap on their team. There aren't really any Jets fans that remember having a championship team anymore. We're not there yet, but we're not far removed from it.
     
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    i think the generational thing works in a general sense although i'm at the age where every now and then a friend dies of natural causes so i'm not sure if i can be as patient as needed either :lol: but it really does boil down to patience. we have a pro bowl caliber player at every unit on this team. we are very close. maybe its more frustrating for some because we are that close
     
  38. FaninPatsyLand

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    I didn't think it was your intention. My bad.

    Otherwise, very good post. Although I would have liked to believe that the addition of Marshall and Dansby, at the very least, moved us up in the AFC East pecking order. But even that looks like a fallacy at this point.
     
  39. adamprez2003

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    good point. when the experience of being a fan is dominated by the last ten years and you have to hear stories of the good old days but havent experienced it for yourself it must get frustrating. but i think your faith will be rewarded soon :up:
     

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