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Atlanta Braves 2010 thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by charlestonphan, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. muscle979

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    And that strike zone was ridiculously wide for Brian Wilson in the ninth. But hey at least he was consistently calling strikes several inches off of the plate.

    Our beloved Bravos are just too banged up to pull this off I think. If healthy they would be the only team that could challenge the Phillies for the NL pennant. Too bad for us they are far from healthy. We're dying for a presence like Chipper in the lineup. Their backs are at the wall now and they'll have to beat Lincecum at some point to advance.
     
  2. unluckyluciano

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    Weird thing is they moved conrad from 3rd to second because of two overthrows. Now this. At least in that manner bobby knew what he was doing not letting him start despite his bat lol
     
  3. muscle979

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    The most frustrating thing here is that I know they are a better team than the Giants. Too many bench players out there. And now no closer. We saw how huge that was tonight. I guess our young pitchers are at least getting some valuable postseason experience.
     
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  4. unluckyluciano

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    Once wagner went down thats all I pretty much chalked this up to. I was already weary with all the other injuries. Wagner sealed it for me.
     
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  5. muscle979

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    This will be good for heyward too even though he's been completely overmatched so far. Of course on his last AB he was rung up on a pitch well outside of the zone. The ump was giving Wilson everything. He was calling everything within several inches of the outside part [to lefties] of the plate.

    With all of these injuries we'd get murdered by the Phillies in the NLCS. Not that I don't want them to make it but let's face the facts. Not that that's not going to happen to the Giants as well. I hate those Philthies but they have a pretty good shot to win it all.
     
  6. Merauder

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    Wilson was throwing strikes. The ump was inconsistent the entire game. It wasn't in favor of the Giants or Braves. The Giants left a lot of runners in scoring position, which they do a lot of the time. You're lucky the Giants only had 1 run when the guy hit the homer. I don't think the Braves have a better team, even with the injuries. Honestly the series should be over right now because the come from behind win on Friday night was close to a miracle. Wilson was a rock all season and he had only blown a save 4 or 5 times out of 60 or something.
     
  7. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Brooks Conrad FTW
     
  8. muscle979

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    Sorry, that's almost a joke. They were the best team in the NL before they started getting dinged up in August. I don't know how you can think the Giants are a better team when they couldn't win the season series. How close this series has been with Atlanta playing rookies and backups is a testament to that. Who are the Giants going without? We are without a future Hall of Famer with tons of postseason experience and our All-Star second baseman. The Giants don't have a hitter worthy of carrying Chipper's jock strap. To be honest. We lost our one and three hitters and half our starting infield. The main difference between Atlanta and Philly is that Philly's lineup got dinged up early and became healthy in September. I won't even get into the pitchers we lost. We lost Kris Medlen who had almost been unbeatable on the mound.

    Some of Wilson's pitches were strikes. And some were balls being called strikes. TBS has this magic little thing on the screen that shows that. Not that you couldn't tell just from watching. A closer who is already pretty good becomes even better when the strike zone is widened by inches. I'm sure he called some that way for the Braves. I know he didn't in the top of the ninth though. Not anything that far off the plate.
     
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  9. Merauder

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    The Giants won like 25 games out of 30 down the stretch to get to where they are at now. A mediocre team doesn't do that. Seems like you have trouble acknowledging that the Giants have a good team. Without a completely rare meltdown from Wilson this series is over right now. You know that, right? You won the season series by 2 games? I'm sorry but that doesn't automatically make you the better team.

    EDIT: The season series was won by Atlanta 4-3. One game.
     
  10. unluckyluciano

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    I'm not sure how you can call our win a miracle and the one today not as it was a come from behind victory also.
     
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  11. Merauder

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    Because the Giants were leading both games the entire games. It was 4-1 late against one of the best closers in the game. Today, once again you were losing almost the ENTIRE game and got a lucky hit from some guy that I do not know the name of. Do I need to look at his stats from this season? And I said it was "close to a miracle".
     
  12. unluckyluciano

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    Yes you do as you don't know what you are talking about. The braves coming from behind for most of the season proves its not just luck or a fluke.And just because you don't know hinske doesn't prove anything.
     
  13. Merauder

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    Getting really popular to tell me "I don't know what I'm talking about" on this board. I guess you didn't happen to notice that little pop up stat that also included the Giants for teams with the most last at bat wins this season.
     
  14. unluckyluciano

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    You mean the one that had the braves in second? And you are the one that brought up the stats not me. FYI heres the little pop up you are referring to.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101008&content_id=15522228&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
     
  15. Merauder

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    Braves had 25, Giants had 20. I don't think that is much of a difference. It's safe to say that both teams are good at getting clutch runs late in games.
     
  16. muscle979

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    So your starting pitching has been a little better. Bullpens are part of the game too. Dominant starting pitching for seven innings means nothing when your bullpen gives it up. I could say you were lucky that the blind ump called Buster Posey safe the other day. I could say you're lucky that Billy Wagner got hurt. Take those things away and the Giants season might be over right now. Who is really lucky here?
     
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  17. muscle979

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    They still won the season series. I didn't say the Giants were mediocre. I said that a healthy Braves team was definitely better. There's a difference. You're the only one around here intent on blowing off everything that happens against the Giants as luck. The fact that you assumed I was saying the Giants were bad is a testament to how bad you must feel the Braves are. I should post about how lucky you are that Pablo Sandoval's fat *** didn't break Buster Posey's neck when they collided the other day.

    The Braves were the best team in the NL from May probably until around early August when the injury bug started killing them. Your Giants will probably win the NLDS, but they're just beating a shell of the team that secured enough wins to get into the postseason. You can't just bring in a Brooks Conrad and expect him to be Chipper Jones. You can't replace a player that is great, that can put a team on his shoulders. The Braves lack a player in their lineup that pitchers truly fear. Chipper didn't always produce like he used to but pitchers still feared him as an elite hitter.
     
  18. HardKoreXXX

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    We were #2 in the NL in runs scored before the injuries, and still #3 in the NL in team ERA. So no, we were much better than the Giants before half the team got hurt. This series is either a sweep or 3-1 win if everyone is healthy.
     
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  19. Merauder

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    Ok and the Giants were #1 or 2 in runs scored against and #1 in ERA. I love "ifs".
     
  20. muscle979

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    I noticed you think the Giants will win a seven game series vs. Philly. You're going to get your heart broken. And they haven't even finished this series yet.
     
  21. muscle979

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    I think we've got a pretty good shot at forcing game 5 tonight. The starting pitching is in our favor. If Bobby's smart he'll put Diory Hernandez in and let Brooks stick to pinch hitting. We can't afford more errors with another contact pitcher in. They don't have much to lose really, I mean they're lucky they're even contending with a juggernaut like the Giants. <end sarcasm>
     
  22. HardKoreXXX

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    And the Braves had the best run-differential in the NL until the last couple weeks of the season. And that #1 in ERA got you beat 3 out of 4 (should've been a sweep had Wagner not blown a save) in Atlanta when the Braves were at full-strength.

    Those "ifs" are pretty big ones. No way Billy blows that save last night either. And I'd be shocked if the Giants even got the Philly series to 6 games, much less won it.
     
  23. HardKoreXXX

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    I still don't understand, with all the defensive subs Bobby made, he didn't put in Diory in the 9th inning. Still baffles me. He has to start Diory tonight though. It should be a no-brainer.
     
  24. muscle979

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    It was sad to see. Brooks has done some good stuff for the team, he's just not a good defensive player. Bobby kind of hung him out to dry. Now all people will remember is him possibly costing us the NLDS.
     
  25. adamprez2003

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    Ahh Yankees Braves. Brings back memories

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    I was actually at this game. Snuck in with an August ticket for the Brewers and 70 bucks for the ticket tearer

    Good times, good times
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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    While obviously a healthy Billy Wagner gives the Braves the best chance to win last night's game, I'm not sure how you can say there's no way he blows that save last night. It's not like he's ever been Mr. Automatic in the post season. Granted it's only 11 innings pitched but he's been horrible in the past in those spots.
     
  27. muscle979

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    Yeah, it's certainly possible. You just have to like his chances better than a rookie who has never closed a game before.
     
  28. Ray Finkle

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    I do, even though Kimbrel was having a pretty good series so far.
     
  29. Merauder

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    Good series.
     
  30. The G Man

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    Thanks for the memories Bobby. Bummer you didn't go out with a World Series appearance, but you're a class act if there ever was one. :up:
     
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  31. muscle979

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    That was an exciting series. A herculean effort that unfortunately wasn't rewarded with a series win. Missing tons of players these Braves were not lacking in guts and will. I'm proud of them. With a few upgrades and some healthy players coming back this can be a very good team next season. A ton of young talent going forward.

    Good sportsmanship by the Giants showing Bobby respect and holding most of their celebration until they got inside. I won't know what to think with some new guy sitting in the dugout next April.
     
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    You're going to need a great series to have a chance against the Phillies. But I hate those guys so good luck. :up:
     
  33. KB21

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    Bobby Cox - There will never be another like him. So long, Bobby. The last 20 years have been some of the most enjoyable years of watching baseball for me.

    Is it bad that I'm about to tear up watching his post game presser?
     
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    I didn't know he was going to have a presser. I'll have to catch it later. His last tip of the cap to a chanting crowd was a pretty special moment. I wish I could have been down there for this one.
     
  35. unluckyluciano

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    Anybody have video of his goodbye?
     
  36. KB21

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    It is going to feel very odd next year watching the Braves and not seeing Bobby sitting in that dugout, giving signs, and chewing on some umps.

    Got to give a shout out to Derek Lowe as well. That guy pitched his guts out tonight on short rest.
     
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    Speaking of which, who is in line to replace Bobby Cox?
     
  38. Vinny Fins

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    I'd be shocked if it's not Fredi Gonzalez.

    So long Bobby!
     
  39. HardKoreXXX

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    Yeah, classy move by the Giants there at the end. I too will miss Bobby. I never understood all the hate he got these last few years. He pissed me off every once in a while, but find a coach in any sport you agree with all the time. Happy trails #6.
     
  40. Merauder

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    Cox is one of the greatest of all time and it sucks that he couldn't leave the game on a high note for Braves fans but he is a classy guy and is respected by a lot of people. He is very passionate about the game and the way the Braves have consistently competed over the years is a testament to just how good of a manager he really is. I've never seen a series this tense and exciting before. Just read that there had never been a series in history that had every game come down to 1 run. That's a lot of series!!!!!! It's unbelievable.

    Congrats on a solid season Braves fans. I have a feeling that we will be seeing you again in the near future.
     

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