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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by FinFan316, Oct 17, 2010.

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  1. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    jeez Raf..didn't you know the season ended with the loss to the Jets? Pay attention, will ya?
     
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  2. schmolioot

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    At the end of the day we're still not scoring enough to consistently beat good teams. We've scored 89 points total. 7 of those were a defensive TD. For point of comparison buffallo has scored 87 points.

    It's not good enough yet. Henne was better yesterday but we're still not getting the "chunk" yards consistently enough. We possessed the ball for more than 12 minutes in the 3rd quarter and scored 3 points. Not gonna be good enough going forward.

    It was a really nice win in a tough place to play, but until we start scoring more often we're going to have a tough time
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think iam startin to see how you view and root for your team..

    What iam confused about is your timeline in the transition from piss poor to good football team is, and how youth is quantified in your projection's...

    Are you saying that if we beat the steelers, we are then elite? or still poser's with a good record?
     
  4. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    :lol:

    Love it
     
  5. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Truth does not equal opinion. Never has, never will.
     
  6. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    seriously...

    Cleveland did beat Cincy....you can't take any team in the NFL for granted...

    Just ask NO about Arizona or SD about STL....
     
  7. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Cleveland is absolutely horrendous. The NFL needs to ship them and the Bills to an underwater arena in the Atlantic and make them play each other there for the rest of time.

    Get them out of here
     
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  8. FinFan316

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    I learn so much about American culture from this board. I am learning that READING is a lost art. It just is. Growing up in the 70s, it was taken for granted that everyone could read. We didn't consider that people could not. I apologize to those for whom reading is difficult...I know its got to be hard...I spend alot of time abroad, and I dont read foreign languages, so I know what its like.

    Killer, re read the post. If you are still having problems understanding, I will be happy to spend some extra time with you so you can understand what you read.

    Not reading well has to be a horrible burden. And I think its a fairly common problem, based on some of the responses to this post. Maybe there should be a link to community reading centers on the main page.

    And if any of you need help, please contact me. I am very blessed to have a good education and it would feel great to give something back.
     
  9. FinFan316

    FinFan316 Banned

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    Thank you for getting it.
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    You are over 30?
     
  11. FinFan316

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    I think the road to elite starts Sunday. Winning doesnt mean we are....we still have more games to win. But...if we are going to be elite we need to win this Sunday.

    And people are saying, Pitts the best team,yatta yatta...good. I am glad they are. That makes them worth beating...not like the cheap ones vs Buffalo, Minn, and to some extent, GB. Although they count, no one cares if you beat them.

    We can make a statement by beating Pittsburgh on Sunday.
     
  12. FinFan316

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    But they are not mutually opposite, either. An opinion can be absolutely true. Esp if it continues to get borne out week after week.
     
  13. djphinfan

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    dude, the way your approaching your time here without regard, tell's me all i need to know about your intellectual level at this point..Why do you choose the tone you take, and not try to find lanes to communicate?..why haven't you figured that part of life out yet?..
     
  14. FinFan316

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    uh, yeah. My first Fins game was in 71. How long ago was that?
     
  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I would never have guessed.
     
  16. FinFan316

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    DJ...lighten up. And get your sentences in coherent order.

    I am approaching my "time here without regard"....how I am approaching and in regards to what? Very confusing.

    And how can that possibly tell you anything about my intellect? My intellect is fine, thank you for your concern. Read the boards...if your concern is intellect, there are people SCREAMING for help. Help them. I am good.

    I dont choose a tone. I tell the truth. Thats all. I tell it like I see it. I dont curse people out...I dont impugn their integrity. I tell an unvarnished truth. And I like the unvarnished truth to be told.
     
  17. Stringer Bell

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    :sidelol:
     
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  18. DePhinistr8

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    Be careful...we have to see both of them this year....come out flat against either one and these message boards could go nuts...
     
  19. FinFan316

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    In todays touchy feely political correct world, I am a somewhat of a pariah.

    I went to catholic schools as a kid...honesty was brutal.

    But today, we lie about everything. We tell kids they are wonderful, even when they arent. We lie about how much money we make...Facebook lies to us about how many friends we have....

    And I still tell the truth. Its old fashioned, but its the way I am.
     
  20. rafael

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    You are obviously free to ignore this, but my intention is to be constructive. Your posts have a negative tone. You may not be choosing it, but the tone is there nonetheless. All writing has a tone and if you're not aware of it then you should make an effort to become aware of it if you want your words to be considered rationally rather than emotionally. The tone often dictates how a post will be received. Your posts thus far (the ones I recall) have been negatively received. You can attempt to blame that on everybody else, attacking reading skills or trying to claim that only you are aware of what truth is, but that just shows a lack of communication skills. If the majority of people are reacting a particular way to your posts you should consider that the way you're writing may be the cause. You tend to rarely say anything positive without a qualifier. Then you follow it up with several ultimatum sounding statements. The result is a post with a very negative tone which results in people reacting negatively.
     
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  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    that does not make any sense. No one here is lying.
     
  22. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    Maybe people can read this:

    This is your own words a week before we lost to the Jets - well it was 6 days before the "Unfortunately" thread. You know the one, where we suck. You seem optimistic here, maybe Killer had you posts mixed up then. Seems to me you change your opinion more often than your underwear. Maybe just sticking with one is best?

     
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  23. Pandarilla

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjB6psI1Rc4"]YouTube - Family Guy - Gyllenhaal Clip[/ame]
     
  24. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Then it wouldn't be an opinion, it would be fact.
     
  25. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Oh the Phins will beat them both. By 3 each. So yeaaaaaaaah. There! :knucks:
     
  26. djphinfan

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    Thats funny about the sentences thing?, you will always win in that dept, lol..I have my own definition's of what intelligence is. However, my lack of sentence structure is not the issue here,{and no bearing on intellectual level, so stop trying to insult me with your book smarts, lol}

    How bout having no regard for earning respect on a board that we all love to spend time sharing? This place is different man, you wanna be here with us when we hoist the trophy one day,and I believe the more time you spend here, the more you will realize how interesting and cool some of the members here really are..

    You can speak your mind here, I get some of the stuff your seeing, I just dont like it when anyone who hasn't earned their stripes around here start's insulting posters that have..That's all..

    As far as your theory of becoming elite if we win, well, maybe last week when you called us piss poor and 2nd rate you might of wanted to add how you were projecting us in the near future, you know, somehow quantify our youth and starting point 3 year's ago....I believe you said somewhere that we were silly for thinking we would win in green bay and against Pittsburgh..

    I don't give sh$# right now that we lost our last 2 games at home, the variable's surrounding this one favor us performing at a high level, I will live with the result, but either way, our team needs us at this point, their gonna put their heart and soul into this game, I wanna give them 100 support, what the hell do we have to lose, this is a game to be just a fan and let it all go.

    Listen man, why do you wanna hold these guards up, come on over from that level and try to find our's..its fun over here....we all love our team ya know..
     
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  27. FinFan316

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    People react negatively because I say things they dont want to hear, and yet, they cant refute it. Why? Because deep down they know in their heart of hearts, its true. I called the Fins second rate. That has earned me the antipathy of the vast majority here. I dont care, mind you, but it has. I have been insulted, my integrity impugned, called names...and when I responded in kind, I was warned by the admin and told me I should expect such. Why? Because I disagree? Because I say things that are un popular? Whaever, I dont really care. I dont care if people like me or not. I tell the truth as I see it. I dont sugar coat things. Thats hard for most people to accept. But lets be clear....they dont react negatively because of my tone. They react negatively because they cant deal with reality. A reality that I just happen to point out.
     
  28. rafael

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    No, they react negatively b/c of your tone. I haven't heard anyone here claim that Miami is an elite team. The vast majority of the posters here are probably in agreement that Miami has to improve to get to that level. In that respect your version of "truth" matches the majority here. So they are not having any problems dealing with reality. The poster who can't figure out why he is saying the same basic "truth" as everybody else but is being responded to negatively is the one that can't handle reality.
     
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  29. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    There is very little reality in that statement.
     
  30. FinFan316

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    Alot of people dont believe facts. You can have an opinion that can also be a fact. Its my opinion that the Browns suck. I think thats a fact, but I guarantee you, somewhere in the world, there is a Browns fan just like many of Fins fans that will say, "we dont suck" and give a bunch of reasons why they dont believe it.

    I called the Fins second rate. Thats a fact. Yet some will call it an opinion. I am willing to accept that it is both?

    Does that help you out?
     
  31. FinFan316

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    I have earned my stripes as a Fins fan...I have probably seen more losses than you many of you have seen games, total. I have watched this team since the year they lost their first SB to Dallas. So forgive me if I am unimpressed by someone who has "earned stripes" on a message board by posting for a year or two.

    I dont interfere with anyone's enjoyment of this board. No one is forced to read my posts. No one is forced to reply. If they do, and in doing so backhandedly insult me, I am going to give it right back to them.

    But the problem is, when the Fins suck (and they did against the Pats, to be sure) people here get pissed at me...What is up with that? All I do is point out the obvious.

    And then they lose their good sense. My OP to start this thread, even the title of the thread, clearly states (my opinion) that if they win vs Pittsburgh, they can began their climb to elite status. Yet, just one example, look at KillerPhins reply. Its absurd. I can only infer that he is either being a jackass or he really cant help it, and he really didnt understand my post. I dont know him and dont really care to. I find him uninteresting and his thinking to be shallow and circumspect. But hes probably "earned his stripes" on this message board. Even if he cant, or refuses to, understand the OP. Hes just one example.

    So I offer opinions here. I hope to engage in meaningful discussion and debate. I dont make it personal. But it gets that way because others dont like what I say. Thats just the way it is.
     
  32. djphinfan

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    it seems when you said that, you left no room for the possible scenario of beating the packers and steeler's, and how we would view our team if we did..

    By the way you depicted our 2nd rate team, no way that team, could beat the packers and steeler's back to back ya know?..

    Now if we win this game, I would still not consider us elite, but I would say that for the youngest starting unit in the league, were givin it a hell of a run so far..exceeding expectation's imo.
     
  33. FinFan316

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    I am not surprised one bit that you feel that way.
     
  34. FinFan316

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    Ok. Whatever. But if you think the majority here are ready to admit that the Fins are second rate, than you and I just disagree.

    Go back and read my post "Unfortunately, we are what I thought we might be". Read the responses. Tell me that people are in "agreement". Now what was that you were saying about reality?
     
  35. FinFan316

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    I think if the Packers would have had Finley and Matthews, we probably wouldnt have won that game. And they were still playing when I spoke about the Patriots game.

    But it was an opportunity give the Fins, and they took advantage of it. Now they need to beat the Steelers. Twice now, they have bent over and grabbed their ankles at home. Twice. Lets see if they do it a third time.

    They are going to go one of two ways...either towards elite, or towards permanent "second rate" status. We'll see.
     
  36. Fin D

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    So if we win by a point we'll be elite and if we lose by a point we suck?
     
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  37. djphinfan

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    you not caring is the reason why your having some issue's of engagement, we care about this place man, and if you dont care to get to know its members, or engage respectfully so you can get the wealth of knowlege from other's on this board, then what are you getting out of it?.

    I know your *** is over there in hostile territory, and we appreciate what you do...
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    #1 you do not know why people react why they react

    #2 you do not know why people refute the way they refute.

    It is not that I feel that way, it is that I know that way because it is impossible to know those two things. You have created this weird reality for the reason your opinion is being treated the way it is.
     
  39. MikeHoncho

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    Mystery Solved...


    ...Case closed.
     
  40. djphinfan

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    man your extreme's are tough when you are talking about youth and the many variable's that accompany that....What is "permanent 2nd rate status''?, you mean if we lost, our fanbase will not recover this year?

    If we lose, its not gonna be because of lack of effort, its gonna be because we still have a ways to go to compete with a championship team that has a veteran GREAT QB leading it...I would look more into how we were defeated, and the look of the loss, I would do that to project on the future as accurately as possible...



    Personally, I dont have us done building the team, another offseason and I will be ready to take the expectation's up...so a game like this one, with my expectation level, is more about letting go and playing without pressure, and accepting the result...
     

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