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Ten Thoughts After Week 8

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  1. ckparrothead

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    Here are my thoughts:

    1. Play calling - This was, I felt, the worst-called game of the season. I've been a Henning defender for the most part, but today just showed me that he's too stubborn. The tighter line splits and wishbone running package simply was not working. When I review the tape I would be willing to bet I find that on some of the more successful runs, the formationing and personnel had dictated the defense and offense space themselves wider. Some of those Wildcat calls (not all of them, most of them) were dumb bordering on inexcusable. The 3rd & 6 run call, same. But, all of that said, par for the course for Dan Henning is for him to make a few questionable calls but also to make a few that make you tip your hat, and he did still have a few of those. Considering how aggressively the Bengals were jumping our RBs, that WR reverse call to Hartline was a spiffy call. Also, though it was criticized, there was a 3rd & 1 call with a deeper pass up the middle to Fasano that had a real shot of creating a chunk play. That pass-back to Chad Henne very nearly created a touchdown. These were either potential or successful game-changing play calls that were properly set up and the only thing missing (if anything) was execution. I'm not saying Dan Henning isn't out there screwing up, like I said today was his WORST game plan of the season I felt...but we can win THIS YEAR with him calling the plays. He's not going to prevent us from making some noise. However, I am convinced this will be his final year in Miami. Parcells is gone, Henning is old, remember that they DID ultimately fire Pasqualoni for mediocre to sub-mediocre performance. They will go another direction in the off season. In the mean time we just live with some bone-headed calls BUT we also gladly accept the genius calls.

    2. Jason Allen vs. Sean Smith - A coaching call I was almost even MORE disappointed in than Henning's game plan, was to start Jason Allen for this game after spending the entire week getting Sean Smith ready to resume his role. I felt like this was punative, because Sean Smith went and blabbed about his increased workload and this regime doesn't appreciate that sort of thing. Question is, who did it punish most? Sean Smith? Or the team? Note Terrell Owens' quote after the game "They put Sean Smith in the ball game. They realized 32 was a liability out there. Once we exploited that he saw no more of the field." He ain't just whistlin' dixie, Sean Smith was on lockdown for the entire game once he came in. He had a huge breakup on a deep ball intended for Owens, and he iced the game with that interception. You've got to hand it to the guy. He did well. Jason Allen has had two good games this year but four mediocre or much worse ones. Why be surprised that he goes out there and immediately has a target on his back for Terrell Owens to abuse? Even worse, WHY GIVE THE GUY THAT HAS HAD LESS WORK DURING THE WEEK THE OPENING REPS?

    3. Special Teams - Mad props to Darren Rizzi. This guy has had the special teams not only improving from that New England disaster but in this game they were GENERALLY humming. The exceptions were obvious, Davone Bess' bad decisions. This is a guy that you usually count on to be extremely smart because he always has been. I'm not going to nail that one on Rizzi. I criticized Rizzi for continuing to start Bobby Carpenter on STs units even after Westhoff (correctly) identified that Carpenter has no business there, but now it's time to give him props for having turned around the STs units. It feels good.

    4. Mike Nolan and In-Game Adjustments - This guy is FOR REAL as a defensive coordinator. To me, the mark of a guy that deserves to be called one of the best coordinators out there is the effectiveness of his in-game adjustments. Every coordinator comes in with parts of the game plan that get exposed a little bit. Can you adjust without giving up something else that kills you? For Mike Nolan, he's been able to. Look at the Vikings game. Visanthe Shiancoe KILLS us in the 2nd quarter, they've found something schematically and it's working. Yeremiah Bell talked about their halftime adjustments, but from that moment on Shiancoe was shut down and the Vikings generally stuffed. Jets game, same thing. Dustin Keller KILLING us in the first quarter or first half. Nolan makes an adjustment, Keller gets shut down, Jets offense not nearly as effective as before for the rest of the game (though good enough to beat us still, obviously). Also note during that game the coaches felt like they snookered Sanchez into several really bad decisions that certain players (ehrm, Bobby Carpenter, Yeremiah Bell, etc) just didn't execute. Well today we had a situation in the first half where the Bengals were finding cutback lanes all over the place against us. We made adjustments at the half, that cutback style running DRIED UP...and the cherry on top is they didn't give something up in order to get the better run defense. The defense in the second half was stellar. Truly stellar.

    5. Pass Protection - Again, Henne had ALL DAY to throw, generally speaking. I kept waiting for the pass rush to get to him with how long he was holding the ball and scanning the field. The Bengals covered pretty well today but they couldn't get to Henne and he had a lot of time, and it hurt them.

    6. Red Zone Issues - Are a myth. This team doesn't have red zone issues. They have chunk play issues. The most successful drives of the day were those where the offense was successfully able to SHORTEN THE FIELD either by a big return which provided good field position, or big chunk plays that move you down the field in a hurry. The important detail being commonly overlooked is, the Dolphins don't GET to the red zone. They generally fail right on the door step of the red zone. That's not a team having issues moving the ball within the tighter spaces. That's a team constantly having to lay out 10 or 12 successfully executed plays just to end up right outside the 20 yard line. That's too much pressure on the execution. On the play where Pat Cobbs got us onto the Bengals' 45 yard line, I really felt that was a touchdown. And it SHOULD have been a touchdown, but for Anthony Fasano's mind boggling drop. Yeah the ball was a little behind him, but Henne was on the move, it was fully catchable and it probably would have netted a touchdown one way or another. The fact that we were so close to scoring and didn't purely because of such a poorly executed catch, I think shows this offense's potential against mediocre defenses if we can shorten up the field with special teams or chunk plays. Believe it or not the team actually has the makings of a GOOD red zone offense, because they're really comfortable grinding out yardage in tight spaces, aka the "short box" offense that DOLFANMIKE talked about.

    7. Play Action - I don't know why but it's generally not working. There has to be an adjustment. What I mean when I say it's not working is, no defenders are BITING. When Chad Henne whips his head around he finds linebackers still backed up, safeties still out in coverage, the only difference is that Henne has had a whole lot less opportunity to read the field before he gets rid of the ball. I'm with Michael Irvin on this one. Maybe you don't scrap it altogether but it has to change somehow. The only play-actions I see working are of the bootleggish variety which are not at all designed to go deep. But if all you can get are short plays on play-action, you really have to question the cost-benefit because every play-action call carries with it a more significant risk of lost yardage or turnover.

    8. Patrick Cobbs - I know, he dropped an important one today. But, I would still try and get him the ball more. The bottom line is he's making noise, on special teams and elsewhere, getting open on pass patterns. He needs the ball in his hands more. He seems fully recovered from his knee injury and honestly he's the tailback on roster right now that looks the most full of life. He's really waiting to make some plays out there. He needs CARRIES. The ground game really isn't doing it for us in most ways right now. Sometimes you're looking for a spark, and today this guy was all over the place making plays on kick coverage, making plays on kick returns, getting open in the passing game and even though he dropped the one, I'd have made more effort to get him with the ball in his hands and see if he couldn't provide a spark. Lousaka Polite meanwhile gets too many balls thrown his way and for the life of me I have NO idea why. He presents NOTHING in the passing game.

    9. The Officials - GAH!!! What the F--K, man??? Three weeks in a row the officiall try and screw over the Dolphins in a critical moment of the game. Against the Packers, it was the infamous Ronnie Brown no-conversion-that-was-actually-quite-clearly-a-conversion. If we wouldn't have produced the stones to win the game in overtime, that might have been a game-influencing bad call. Against the Steelers, well let's not get into that horse sh-t. Nice disgraceful way to finish one of the most poorly officiated games in the history of the modern NFL with a cherry-on-top "we refuse to actually do our jobs on this play because we just want to go home" interception call and no-review. Just had to get that out there. Screw the officials, there's no excuse for that. But anyway today, holy crap why is this continuing for a third straight week? I'm not one to complain about the officiating generally speaking. I think the bad calls tend to even out in the end and generally don't impact the game outcome as much as most people tend to think. But this three week stretch has been 'special' alright (as in, ******ed). Let's not talk about the OBVIOUS and BLATANT no-call on Chad OchoCinco's @ss rape of Tyrone Culver on the deep ball, because that probably didn't influence the game. Let's talk about the total and complete BS phantom roughing the passer call that genuinely DID keep the game alive longer than it should. What...the...F--K...was that???

    10. The Future - I am now officially 6 of 6 on my predictions of the outcome of Dolphins' games. I should be 5-1, because I predicted the Dolphins would lose to the Steelers and they actually won on the field, as we all know the officials executed one of the most disgracefully officiated games in modern NFL history. Since my vision for what the Dolphins will do has generally proven pretty accurate...if I do say so myself...let me reiterate how I see the Dolphins and what I see them doing. I've said this before. I also said that if the Dolphins lost today that'd be a game-changer for me, I'd have to revise my expectations and change my view of the team. Well, they didn't lose. They won by 8 points, going 4-0 on the road. I think this team is a good team. I think they're showing a LOT of the qualities they did in 2008 when they went near-perfect against the kinds of teams that they "should" beat. They focus on execution, yes it's a "small box" offense as DOLFANMIKE identified, but the upside to that is that the offense tends to do better against awesome defenses than one would think. The downside is an annoying habit to score down with a team that you should be beating soundly. Either way, in 2008 they displayed the consistency to beat all the teams they should beat, and I see that same consistency this year. That means teams like the Lions, Raiders, Browns, Bills, I would personally insist the Bears...the teams that are good at beating themselves...should be for the most part penciled in as W's. I felt the Bengals were one of those teams. From there you have four more "good" teams on the schedule, the Ravens, Titans, Jets and Patriots. In 2008 the Dolphins had genuine trouble trying to steal games from good teams. In 2009, they didn't have as much trouble competing with good teams, but they did have trouble winning the games they "should" have won. I think 2010 is a little bit of both worlds. We're good enough to consistently beat the teams we "should" beat. We're good enough to compete with the teams that are genuinely good. Competing with the remaining "good" teams means going 2-2 against them. If we beat every team I think we should beat, that would give us an 11-5 record. I don't see 11-5 personally, because I believe the team is not execution-savvy enough to beat EVERY team they "should" beat...but 10-6 would be a good third year outcome for this crew, considering we appear set to do much better in 2011 than 2010 (IMO). As for next week against the Ravens, you'll have to wait a bit to get my thoughts on them. Not 100% sure yet.
     
  2. GreysonWinfield

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    Great write up. Regarding your comments on the future and hanging with the tougher teams but not always getting over the hump; this is where the coaching staff has to play call better and put the players in a position to win. If they can't do this (and currently it looks like an offensive issue only) they are wasting the year and making these young players believe that they can beat anyone.
     
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  3. steveincolorado

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    As much as you know about players, you know nothing about officiating. You really have no clue do you? :sad:
     
  4. Bofin

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    thanks for the write up, i really keep hoping to see our running game start busting out some decent yardage. spacing, playcalling, formations, scheme, blocking, cut backs, runner whatever. i just want to see them put it together, the ravens d is tough next week, but i still wanna see us run the rock.
     
  5. Jaj

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    I honestly can't say Ronnie and Ricky are showing much anymore. They were getting some impressive lanes and not doing anything special with them. Maybe for a reasonable price you hold onto Ronnie, but again I was underwhelmed by both of them.
     
  6. FinsAreLife

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    That rushing the passer call was awful. The NFL NEEDS to change that rule. In no way is the qb in danger on that play. Its disgusting that was called.
     
  7. Duss

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    We simply are not dynamic enought running the ball to warrant linebackers bitting on it.

    5-6 times they were 6 bengals in the box and we would get like 1-2 yards on the ground
     
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  8. Duss

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    A hand on the helmet doesnt hurt anyone
     
  9. Jaj

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    I really don't think it's the offensive line as much as people think it is. I think they simply just don't run the same way they used. 2008's versions of R and R didn't have much to run behind either but they did far better with what they had.
     
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  10. Duss

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    I wasnt saying that the O-line is not doing their job rather than the running game is simply not a threat Ricky except for his strong run late was going down on the first contact

    Also how in the hell do we only have 2 rushing TD's while we are prouding ourselves as a power football team. guess what power teams score td's on the ground
     
  11. steveincolorado

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    It was very minor, but he did smack him on the facemask. Again, very minor, but you know the way the QB's are protected these days.
     
  12. Ozzy

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    I herd it explained like this. Chad Henne has kind of small hands, and he always uses two hands on his play action so it's a dead give away.
     
  13. The_Dark_Knight

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    To comment on the play action pass, we're not dedicated enough to the run to make play action effective. I would say that even if the run is not effective, you have to stick to it...make the defense believe you are indeed running so linebackers WILL bite on play action and we can get that long ball to Marshall.

    Just my in between trick or treaters quick thought
     
  14. 54Fins

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    over there
    Good one,CK.
    I don't have anything to add. :lol:
     
  15. xphinfanx

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    Roughing the passer when the player is clearly pulling up to avoid full contact is total bs.

    Anyone notice the helmet in Farves face the guy drove his body upward to make sure he got the extra momentum in the hit wich led to stiches in his chin but that was not a roughing call.
     
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  16. the 23rd

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    pretty much the way I say it too. always nice to have someone put it into words
     
  17. djphinfan

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    Iam not buyin that OZ, you?

    His hands are so small that he has to hold the ball with 2 hands when he uses playaction?..BS..
     
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  18. djphinfan

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    anyone see Pennington on the sideline going freakin nuts...That dude is chompin at the bit..
     
  19. texanphinatic

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    Nice write up. The dropsies really have been hitting us hard this year it seems. Fasano clearly needs to be upgraded this offseason, it's a shame we haven't been able to develop anyone, what with all the bodies we have been throwing at that spot since Cam/Ran hit the door.

    I also agree that having Cobbs play more can't be a bad thing. He gets ragged on a lot, but had a solid game. As ineffective as Ronnie has been, we do need a spark there. Ricky is still solid when not putting it on the ground, but he's not spectacular either.

    Would definitely be nice to see Smith take a leap here and be a good complement to Vontae as we initially thought it would go. Having those two turn into a shutdown pair would be immense for this team.
     
  20. djphinfan

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    137 yards rushing today with a 4.4 average...

    were so deceptively effective...

    CK, How do you think our rookie did starting again on the oline.?

    Pass pro was there, pretty solid run game.
     
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  21. Jaj

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    Do you let Fasano go completely or do you play a 2 TE set with him and say a Kyle Rudolph across next to Long? Logan Mankins in addition and you're set for a great offensive year.
     
  22. padre31

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    Rizzi's unit did a masterful job this game, Cobbs return to the Bengals 45 yd line and DBess's 16 yd return were key plays in the second half for the offense.

    Surprised at how effective the Bengals oline was vs Wake and Misi, no sacks and just a handful of pressures, granted Palmer is a surgeon vs the blitz, but his jersey was clean for the game.

    Surprised that Sparano has once again adopted a G rotation with McQ and JJ.

    Great great job by the defense at shutting Benson down in the second half, he had 80 yds at half time.

    On the injury front, Channing Crowder dislocated his thumb.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    Says the man that clearly shills for even the most disgraceful and incompetent of his former profession.
     
  24. ckparrothead

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    1. About Ozzy's play-action note...I guess it's possible, I find it hard to believe we've been missing something so obvious the whole time. Of course that begs the question of why it's such a big part of the play-book when the coaches know that the defensive players realize that if it's two hands it's a pass and if it's one hand it's a run.

    2. Ground game numbers are a little skewed by the reverse call, but on the other hand the reverse call was every bit a part of the ground game as anything. If the front players weren't biting so hard at Miami's backs when they could tell they had the ball, that reverse wouldn't have happened but at the same time you figure the OTHER runs would have been more successful. So giving up the reverse yardage was part and parcel to how aggressively they were shutting down the other runs. Of course this makes the play-action mystery even more mysterious.

    3. About Fasano I think he's an ideal #2 TE. He's a good player, I wouldn't let a good player go, unless he didn't want to be here anymore.

    4. Once Miami was able to tighten up the RUN DEFENSE, that is when I saw Carson Palmer start to get HIT in the passing game. He may not have gotten sacked but the man took some hits and some of those really helped cause the general lack of effectiveness.
     
  25. padre31

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    Tuesday at 1:30 or so, Beast will be on Irvin's show, hopefully Irvin busts his chops over the playaction pass int, #6 on the season by Henne.


    Henning and Lee both have to recognize what is happening on those things.
     
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  26. ckparrothead

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    Something is happening, and I don't claim that I know the answer, but I do certainly have to question the approach.
     
  27. Ozzy

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    Not sure who right now but I think it was either Bokamper or Orande who said they knew it to be fact. I'm just passing it on.
     
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  28. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    I'm just saying your wrong about officials. It's okay though, I know some great players in my time and we were friends away from the field, but they hated us once the whistle blew.

    I said before, you know your stuff when talking about players, but you are clueless when talking about officials. You my not like what I say, but maybe you should put your ego aside and just post about what you know and not what you think you know.
     
  29. padre31

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    Benny Sapp really turned in a great game today as well, 10 tackles, 1 TFL 4 pd's.

    Greg C is buried in Minny, he more or less is a punt returner.
     
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  30. ckparrothead

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    I'm sorry but when I saw two statements from you, that's all I needed to know about your bias toward your former profession:

    1. There was nothing wrong with the Roethlisberger fumble call.

    2. The interception play at the end of the Steelers game doesn't matter and people are just finding an excuse to complain.

    That latter is EXACTLY what was wrong with the interception call. You are a former official. You share their lax attitude toward getting the call right in that situation. You didn't care if there was a review or not, they didn't care if there was a review or not.

    And that is what makes that game one of the more disgracefully officiated in the modern history of the game.

    And that is why the NFL called an almost unprecedent conference call among officials to tell them to CLEAN IT UP.

    So you say I don't know jack about officiating. That's fine. I know more than the average bear, but obviously less than a former official. But I say you know enough to be completely and totally biased to the point where nothing you say about it is believable.
     
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  31. ckparrothead

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    Yeah the fun part about a trade like that is after this year is done and we don't need a Benny Sapp anymore or the Vikings sour on holding onto Greg Camarillo anymore, if there is still a spot for Greg here in Miami he'll probably find himself on the street looking into our shop window for some scraps of bread.
     
  32. padre31

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    Eh, don't agree Ck, there are always roster slots open for guys who can convert on 3rd down, the Ed McCaffery and Brandon Stokely's of the NFL always land somewhere in the offseason.

    If Brian Finneran is employable, so is Greg C, but unless Bess comes up lame do not see Greg C landing in back in Miami.

    As for Rizzi's ST unit, what I've noticed is when the opponent's ST unit is in the same zip code, his guys kick butt, when the opponent's unit is better, we get our butts kicked.

    Easily handled the #29 packers and #21 bengals, got mauled by the #8 Steelers St unit.
     
  33. steveincolorado

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    1) go back and read what I said about the fumble. I said the replay was 100% correct on the officials part. I also mentioned that IMO, the linesman should have waited a split-second before making his call.

    I also said that the replay official missed the Int call and we all know that it was a incomplete pass. But as officials, we could care less about a players stats. Thats not part of our job. Did it affect the outcome of the game, no it didn't, plus it was the last play, other then the knee down, it really had no bearing on the outcome. Does it affect fantasy owners, thats not something that should go through a officials mind.
     
  34. ckparrothead

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    I fixed that for you. I believe that attitude is disgraceful for an official. And I would bet dollars to donuts that Mike Pereira, Roger Goodell and whoever the heck replaced Pereira would agree.
     
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    Until R&R put fear into any run d, our play action won't fool anyone. I still think we get the run game going in the next couple weeks but until then, no one is buying the PA.

    Nice write up Chris.
     
  36. ckparrothead

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    There might be something to what Ozzy says and if so the Dolphins need to find a way to compensate.
     
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  37. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    But it's true, why should we care about a players stats? Our focus has and always will be on the game and protecting the players the way that the owners want.

    Let's just agree that we both don't agree on this matter.
     
  38. Jaj

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    Against Baltimore and Tennessee isn't exactly where your running game gets going again. I forget Tennessee's ranking but Baltimore is almost a mirror image of Miami statistically.

    Miami passes the ball a little better. They run the ball a little better. They stop the pass slightly better than Miami. Miami stops the run slightly better than Baltimore. It's remarkably close. STs is a little skewed against Miami based on the madness at the beginning of the year, but overall for Miami to win it would have to be a remarkably close game.
     
  39. Jaj

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    How predictable would the team's offense become if they abandoned it as a whole is the question.
     
  40. ckparrothead

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    Fine we can agree to disagree. I don't pretend to know what the secret unadvertised back room mandates are from Goodell and the owners. You say it's to protect the integrity of the game and the physical integrity of the players. I do not believe it is.

    BUT, I will say this. If what you say is true, then they ultimately failed on that Roethlisberger fumble review. You can't have it both ways. Either they care about the fine print, the details and the letter of the law, or they care about what actually happened. Either they care that everyone and their blind sister could tell that Roethlisberger fumbled the ball and Miami recovered in the end zone, and THAT is what matters, not some silly insignificant fine print (ie. "statistic")...or they DO care about the fine details, the fine print, the statistics, the factual and 100% accurate record of what happened on the field, and therefore they have every motivation to call a review on that interception.

    Can't have it both ways.

    Except if you're officiating on Gene Steratore's crew.

    And either way the simple fact of the matter is the NFL did call a near unprecedented phone gathering of all the officials basically to tell them to buck up and start doing their jobs.
     

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