When he throws passes in bad spots and they still get caught that still goes as a completion. You can look only at the percentage and think, 'yeah he's pretty accurate.' You can watch the game though and see that he can benefit from better accuracy. He'll throw a beautiful pass 20 yards down the field in the perfect spot and then follow it up by throwing at a wide open Fasano's feet or something. It's true that most of his passes are catchable. But a lot of them could be better. Rarely throwing downfield also boosts completion percentages.
hes also 11th in the league in passing yards, so this statement is also wrong. We're clearly throwing farther down field than that.
Not in the games i'm watching. How many times have you seen an out pattern go for no gain this year? He gets some garbage stats at the end of games because we are always playing from behind. Not tough to pad certain stats.
This is true - even on a day like yesterday, we're still getting the ball downfield (somewhat). We complete a LOT of passes in the 8 to 15 yard range, but don't have a lot of 20+ yard plays. The other end of the spectrum is a lot of minus to small gain plays. We swing between moderately successful to full on fail.
It means something when you say he is Innacurate. Also, all the blame should not fall only on Henne for scoring 10 points against Baltimore. We ran it down their throats on the first drive of the game. We scored with ease. What does Henning do? Gives Ronnie Brown 3 carries the rest of the game.
Not sure what games you're watching. We had a **** ton of 10+ yard plays yesterday. The problem is that's all we're getting. We've had maybe two or three plays of 40+ yards all year, and a couple of those were runs.
I never said he couldn't be more accurate, in fact I've said he's missing on throws I'd expect him to make. But I'm not going to pretend he's inaccurate just because I dislike him (not that I do) or because I'm frustrated (which I am I guess). And what's downfield, 20+ yds? I mean even if we did that more frequently he'd likely still be a 60% passer.
No ****! Is it any wonder with Penny in his ear and Henning drawing up plays that suit Penny with players that do not suit Henne's skill set.... Before we know anything about Henne two people need to go and they need to take their limited Offense with them.
How much of that might be because he's not playing within himself and trying to be something he's not.
Half maybe. I can't imagine it's more than that. And I don't mean half of all his incompletions, just half of the ones I would expect him to make.
The coaches coach scared and have implanted that mentality into the team. This is obvious now. If they want a game manager under center than they should just put Penny in b/c he's better at that then Henne is. If they leave Henne in they need to let the offense loose. This is getting ridiculous. My confidence in the coaching staff is at an all time low. The coaches will probably just ignore this statement from Ed Reed and the fact that opposing D's don't fear or respect anything they can do.
My friend.... If you had paid closer attention to the football you would have noticed that the video was two games versus Ohio State. Four years? NO, two games.
The point he was making is this is a very small portion of his highlights and ones specified to show his flaws. Something you can do for any qb.
We took 2 shots downfield all game. One was complete to Hartline, the other Marshall got tackled before the ball ever got to him, with no PI call to nobody's surprise.
I'll start by saying Zod you can find bad tape on every QB who ever played while film has been used. so please stop with that crap. second Ronnie Brown made a comment last year when asked about the WC and his role and he said that he runs the play that is called and he runs to the hole asigned, reguardless of play breakdown. These coaches coach to not lose the game keep it close and play good defense, and only open it up when nesseccary. They coach by telling thier players that if everyone does their job the play works, u just do what your assigned to do i.e be a freakin robot. Henne never had a problem takin shots and chances when at Michigan. I have watched all but 2 games of his college career, and this kids is not being let loose to be the leader of this team on or off the field. Henne being let go by this regime is the best thing that could happen for him as long as he plays for a team that will used him. And i never seen a group off ppl that hold a guy to a standard higher than his peers. Turn the channel once in a while and watch other QBs and you'll find that they all miss place the ball, they all force it they all make poor throws in the redzone they all throw ints. yes even glorious Manning and Brees and Brady. the difference is they make more big plays, but they been around alot longer and they all have far better talent and coaching. I laughrd my *** off when someone said on here " I don't believe in if the ball hits ur hands u catch it" WHAT!. How much are they getting paid to CATCH the ball? thats right CATCH THE BALL. every time a reciever drops the ball someone says the placement wasn't good. Funny I see the same thing around the league. Everyone wants the quick fix, Specially Miami fans that watched Marino grow up so fast. Well that's rare, thats what made it special I'll say this i can see one of two things happening, a new OC or coaching staff comes in and lets Henne loose for better or worse, or he enters FA and signs with a team that uses him properly and it comes back to haunt us. But unless they alow him to be a QB instead of a robot it won't happen.
OK, he sucked vs. Ohio St, I get it. Now find us some Peyton Manning vs Florida footage so we can have a good laugh & expose the meaninglessness of your point all at the same time .
It's not Henne that isn't aggressive, it's the OC who's never been aggressive in all his time in the league. If we're lucky we'll get a more aggressive OC who doesn't play not to lose. An OC who knows how to design a screen, or a slant, or a deep pass. An OC who doesn't abandon Ronnie Brown after he runs for 45 yards on 6 carries on the 1st drive of the game.
Yeah lol one i believe was a top 5 ranked team at the time. some of the plays he didn't even have time to set up let alone get the ball off, I reconize that offensive line btw. other than Long it was terrible. but hey he should have made those blocks too. But hey lets eholding Henne to a higher standard than probowl players are held too.
Now tell me something. Do you see a QB in that video missing the blitz? I see it on that video. I see it in our games. Do you see a QB getting sacked when he's not in max protection? I see it on that video. I see it in our games. Do you see the similarity in the plays on that video to the plays that we runs in our games? I see it on that video. Now Dan Henning has told you, Armando, and me that this QB LIKES the rollout. This QB LIKES being under center. This QB LIKES the patterns that you see on that video. Why is it so gosh darn hard too believe that they are playing to Chad Henne's strength? Could it be because....... No......It couldn't be any of that. It's all Dan Henning.
Well then you must be blind. The video shows the rankings. Michigan was ranked number 7 playing an unranked Ohio State. In the other game they were similarly ranked but Michigan was still ranked higher. Inattention to detail....
Obviously you do not get it but I CAN help you out. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81bf22c4/Ravens-defense-INT http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81bf2b38/Ravens-defense-INT http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81bf2b8e/Ravens-defense-INT http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbe50a/Trent-picks-off-Henne http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b6193a/Henne-picked-off http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b134a0/Ninkovich-picks-off-Henne http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b13fc7/Chung-gets-a-pick-6-too http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81ae1255/Jets-defense-INT ..............and there is more. It just wasn't as easy to find by simply searching the name "Henne". Would you like to see the sacks?
The problem is... We have a coaching staff that would rather watch a called strike three... Instead of taking a chance and at least strike out swinging. And, our Qb needs to grow a set. I just listened to him...on QAM. Dear lord Chad...you even Sound like Sparano and Henning. He said, we need our leaders to point us in the right direction. Chad, YOU are supposed to be our leader. Just once Id love to hear him say, honestly, I hate our playcalling, just give me the damn ball and let me win. But he sounds like a brainwashed robot. Fn Sparano if you ruin this kid as a QB... There really are times when I wonder if Saban hadnt welched and stuck it out what we would be like. Say what you want but at least he didnt coach scared.
It's ALL coaching. Look, I said in another thread concerning whether or not Henne was the right QB for our team, when we rush the ball 25 times or more a game, we win. When we don't, we lose. Well, the proof is in the pudding. We rushed the ball 17 times versus Baltimore's 39. Henne threw the ball 34 times (twice as many passes as rushes) versus Baltimore's 28 passes. Dan Henning is quickly giving up on the run too quickly. He's giving up on the Wildcat too quickly. We had two all pro running backs in Ricky and Ronnie and they aren't being used. Henning isn't being persistent. He's putting way too much pressure on Henne by calling passing plays and not easing the pressure on him by calling more running plays. What Henning has forgotten is that a football game is not checkers, trying to get a piece down board to scream "king me" (touchdown), it's a chess match in which you set up your board (running the ball) so you can put your opponent in checkmate (winnng the game) by having your opponent confused as to what you're going to do next (running vs passing) and exploiting that confusion.
Henne, I have bit my tongue for as long as I can.Henne is a young QB. Does he have a 53% completion ratio like Sanchez? Does he have a balanced attack? 16th in Rushing vs. Jets 4th. Henne stays with the play called...because his coaches make him scared to take chances and take shots down the field. If he does become more aggressive and isn't successful the fans and media will be so impatient, he will be run out of town. He feels obligated to play it safe. He makes some great throws. He will make some bad choices and bad passes. He has faced some very good defenses. He is getting better and is progressing. He will get more comfortable in the pocket with more games under his belt. 9 running plays by the OC, ( no balance) a defense that can't get off the field or turn opponents bad passes into Pick6 or INT's is why we lose! Look at the time of possession against Baltimore. Henne is magnified because he has to do so much with so little time. Time on the clock and time playing. Its his second year. My lord Fin fans....get real! I vote Henne stays. 1st drive BALANCE. 1st Drive TD. Game breaker was #1-not getting off the field on D, and #2 fake punt eating the clock. #3 missed Fg #4 Missed INT for PSIX.
Missed throw to: Fasano for a TD Bess if hit with a better pass TD Marshall man to man in the endzone properly thrown pass TD Week in week out, same story.
I can take any QB and show you the mistakes. Thats why the completion %'s aren't 100%. You get success a little better than 60% of the time. As a fan, you want all the NEEDED throws to be completed. I don' think you understand the real reasons why the Fins lost. They aren't because of Henne. There are bigger problems. Henne is not the problem. Did YOU read the two year part? Who is better Pennington whom you called for his head before or Thigpen, a 2nd -3rd string QB at best. Have some patience and quite expecting Henne to save Miami. Start asking Henning to balance the attack and tell the D to get off the damn field. From my perspective, which was 40 yds away all day..the game was lost in the trenches.
The problems, from what I've seen is Henne simply is not that accurate a thrower, that destroys the timing and rhythm on offense and robs an offense of longer plays, you wind up with a Qb throwing to static Wr's.
You as well? Nope, Beast was man to man in the endzone, the ball sailed to the inside of Beast and over the Db's head, he tried to draw the PI call when he judged the ball uncatchable. The pass if thrown to the outside..TD. 10 pts is not going to win very many football games in the NFL, we have not scored 25 pts since last yr, we have not scored 30 pts since last October. FWIW, I agree with GRT8, we simply have to run the ball, and do so consistently, now we are going to play the highest scoring team in the NFL, we either grind clock, or get into a shootout, one way or another.
