Best case (long-term) scenario for the Dolphins' QB situation

i credit vick to the andy reid effect. i would be terrified to have him on the fins

 

You mean adjusting the offense to suit the talents of its players? What a strange and wonderful concept.

 

That's not a good thing, for any coaching staff.

I agree to about the draft, a playmaking S wouldn't exactly be the worst thing for your young secondary

 

C'mon man...I thought we all already agreed that QB ratings don't mean anything. They are SERIOUSLY flawed and have zero credibility.

 

Example:

Dan Marino career QB rating - 86.4

Chad Pennington career QB rating - 90.1

Is Pennington better than Marino? Yeah...the system is is a joke.

 

Do we really have to worry about this now? Just let Pennington play and produce. We'll see how far this team can get, but I have a good feeling.

 

No it's not. If you adjust those QBR's for the era and the different rules the stats/ratings show Marino to be the better QB.

 

LOL...The last of the QB rating system approvers. You all are a dying breed man. I thought extinct...

There are too many people that agree with me that I won't even debate it, as you didn't for some reason.

Let's just all agree that I am right and you were wrong, OK?

 

Well, we as in fans on a message board can worry about it any time we like with no effect on the team whatsoever. The FO SHOULD be worrying about it. Pennington is an over the hill QB with a noodle arm that's had multiple surgeries. He should have already been replaced...and we thought he had been.

I don't. He might or might not win a few games this season, but so what? He's not a Superbowl QB and he's not the QB of the future for us...not even the near future.

 

Can you share what is so educational about losing football games? Is there some divine right that any team is going to win games?

This notion "oh we may win a couple of more games pfft" is among the most addled minded concepts I have come across, almost as bad as hoping to go 0-16 so "we can have the first pick in the draft".

 

4-4 we're not exactly losing games here. we're not winning we're not losing we're just.500. i think what it comes down to is we have the ability to make a playoff push an pennington is probably the better option right now for that goal. it does come at the expense of Henne's learning though and he is the future. So we're delaying his learning curve to win now. I think we're sacrificing a bit of of our long term for short term gains

 

Just win the game and stay above .500.... Tall order adam

 

The QBR isn't perfect, but it's really good at judging a QB.

For instance, (and I'm just going to make up some numbers here) if in the 1950's the average QBR was 70, and Unitas had an 80, that would show that Unitas was a great QB. Do you think that Unitas was a great QB? The proof is in the numbers. All of the All-Time great QB's put up higher QBR's than their counterparts. In fact, most places have adjusted QBR's in order to compare QB's over different era's. Do you know of any All-Time great who didn't put up great numbers which in turn equates to a great QBR. If you do, then the QB must have had poor stats and thus a poor QBR. If this QB was so great, what made him great?

 

very nice game from henne today. he took the benching to heart and came out attacking the deep and intermediate areas today. The lesson of the benching has been learned and his progress continues. Lets hope his ankle is alright

 

Chad Pennington is rated about four points higher in career average than Dan Marino...

What does that tell you about the rating system?...

 

Best case would be to change the offense to suit Henne. Though Henne does a lot that just frustrates me. 1 being not scanning the field.

 

It tells me that the rating system is a joke, because Dan Marino was better than all of those players you posted.

Steve Young - please...no where near as good as Marino.

Peyton Manning - said so himself about a month before the Super Bowl last season that, "Noone will ever throw the ball like Dan Marino."

Kurt Warner - he is a "Bag Boy" compared to Dan Marino.

Joe Montana - Bill Walsh, "Joe Montana was the product of a great system", "Dan Marino is the system."

 

the hen is through in Miami, its over. the guy has been brought along with the best intentions with nothing to his benefit spared. he's been carefully measured & found wanting. it is what it is. send him a get well soon card with a ticket to the Canadian league. we need to focus on winning games now. Tyler Beckham Thigpen deserves the start & opportunity to lead the team. we will see what he brings to the table & hope it is enough to win a place in the play-off for Miami this season.
lets face it we are chadded out

get real with an opportunity to win
Tyler Beckham Thigpen
Thursday night is a must. Circle the wagon trains Miami.

 

the only guy who is through is your boy pennington. great call there 23rd. lol. chad the great lasted all of two plays. way to go

 

is get Michael Vick next year....

 

the Field never lies:
the field has given us the answers @ QB:
1) Pennington can no longer compete because of chronic injuries. no excuses. it is what if is. the end
2) the field has been whispering in our ear for a long time now. unfortunately, most hero worshiping, man-crush types have been blinded by love. the field says Henne is not the solution, he is part of the problem. the field has made its statement in the heat of competition: "Henne will never be the Franchise QB" & Bill Parcells concurs with the fields position :" Henne is a disappointment."
3) the field said that Tyler Beckham Thigpen can get things done. I heard the green remark, he fired up the offense, was mobile, accurate on the run & can go deep, also something about passing into the end-zone for a touchdown was mentioned. the field doesn't tell lies or fall in love with football players, it simply speaks the truth.
3) Tyler Beckham Thigpen has earned the start on Thursday & I hope he does well all I want to do is win games & get into the play-offs. unfortunately, Tyler will receive no do-overs, second chances or excuses. he will simply lead the team to victory or not. I agree with the field, he is our best shot to win in 2010.
no more excusestime to win games or end the season

 

...... and the FIELD says that you need to either get a hearing aid or quit talking for him b/c you don't know what the heck you're talking about and are making him look bad..... and he doesn't appreciate that very much.

Cmon, admit it..... you "borrowed" this whole "field" gibberish from the Nike "Pavement" commercial from the 'What Women Want' movie.

 

the average QBR when marino played was lower than today. so you cant compare them like that

 

It tells me that a career of dinking and dunking is a quick way to make a QB "appear" to be one of the most accurate passers of all time.

 

If you're not the hypocritical pot calling the kettle black!

You were the one emphatically claiming a fragile, 0-4, not played in a year QB would ride in on a dolphin and be the savior of our season. How long did that pipe dream last?........ I bet he wasn't on the "field" long enough for you to finish tuggin your willie. I kid I kid.