I don't know if he'd come to the U or if the U is even interested. However, I think a return to coaching would be better for him in college rather than the pros. He's an "in your face" teaching coach and motivator. 2 things professional athletes grow tired of. I honestly think he's a better fit for college ball and that he'd enjoy college ball more.
I actually agree on every point...I just don't know if he'd see it as a downgrade and take the hit to his ego.
That's a very valid point and I agree that Chuckie's ego is the one thing that may get in his way of a college coaching career. Even if he wanted to come I see the UM admin. being a bigger problem with this type of move. Too much money involved and too high profile for Shalalah.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...-shannon-firing-1128-20101127,0,4957552.story Wow, It's being reported as official and that Shannon is already fired.
Trestman s a guy I've wanted aboard before. At this point, though, what the program needs is a caché hire...a guy who would be fielding calls from the top recruits and have his picks of the litter. A guy like Gruden would fill that immediately. Did everyone know that before hiring Coker, the U offered Dave Wannstedt (while he was till HC of the Dolphins) a 10-year contract at $2M per to come aboard? A "glamor" hire is not out of the question.
Dan Mullen (and his DC at Miss St) would please me. But I want a guy who has HC experience, not another coordinator.
Dan Mullen is going no where IMO. He just got the job at Miss. St. Bilema is going no where IMO. Randy Edsall is not a bad hire IMO. Want a name? Mike Leach.
I don't like that they didn't retain Mark Whipple in some way but I can understand why they didn't. I wouldn't mind Whipple with the Dolphins on the staff in some way (not necessarily OC).
Whoever it is it's imperative they act fast. Firing Shannon is a huge positive long term but short term you run the danger of having a bottom of the barrell recruiting class.
I've been watching this team since 1981, and have complete respect for the guys that stay close to the program. Randy Shannon won a ring here as a player and a coach. The team needs to move in a better direction, and I wish him the best in his endeavors. He'll always be a Miami Hurricane.
Leach is an interesting name. Obviously he'd fit the "big name" qualification people seem to think will come with the next hire. The interesting thing is this offense has always been synonymous with being a pro set. Obviously Leach would change that. I think Whipple deserved his share of the blame. If he couldn't get it through to Harris to take the open underneath route more often then he wasn't doing his job. It also took Harris getting injured for him to realize their strength was their running game and that Lamar Miller might be a star in the making. Also a lot of those offensive players failed to develp under his watch. That's probably more the fault of the positional coaches, but it's certainly disheartening that guys like Harris, Byrd, and A. Johnson all seemed to regress in their time at Miami.
Surprised that Shannon was fired this soon, but if Hocutt made the decision himself, then it’s not surprising. Hocutt wanted Shannon out last year, IIRC. Randy, you gave it a shot, and for a while it seemed like it was working… but it collapsed. The fanbase is even more disappointed than you probably are, because how poetic would it have been for a former Canes championship player to coach the team back to the top? Stick to working with the alumnus organizations. My opinions on the names mentioned so far: Gruden. Wouldn’t be a bad choice, since his style of coaching seems to fit college ball. Not sure UM would pay him what he wants. Also not sure he’d leave ESPN to coach college ball when he’d probably be a candidate for some of the inevitable NFL vacancies. 25% chance. Leach. Shalala does not want controversy, and Leach would generate exactly that, especially now that he’s suing ESPN over character defamation. He’s the Mike D’Antoni of college football: plays great offense, doesn’t care about defense. Trouble is, UM’s legacy was built on its quarterbacks and its defenders. 10% chance. Edsall. The NCAAF version of Tony Sparano. Worked for Tom Coughlin, has coached at a bunch of New England schools. Does a good job considering his school’s low profile, but he’s a sort of low-grade over-underachiever and we just fired one in Randy Shannon. Should still get a look and would consider moving to UM a big-time promotion. 50% chance. Bielema. Love the way his teams play, but why would he leave Wisconsin? That interview would need to be extremely persuasive. 15% chance. Cristobal. Why? 0% chance. Harbaugh. My personal favorite. Can recruit AND develop players, and coaches well to boot. He’s what Randy Shannon was hoped to be, only better. UM would need to compete with NFL programs for his services, assuming he’s interested in leaving Stanford. Ultimately I don’t think UM makes a run at him, but he would be a great hire. 5% chance.
Harris is the one at fault for not taking underneath routes. It's not rocket science and he thinks he can fit the ball in every window. The offense is based off one back and a tight end. They are the primary targets in every pass play. Jacory Harris messed it up. Regarding the running game, Miami was only behind Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech in the ACC in run game and they were a top 25 run team in all of FBS. The failure of development falls squarely on the position coaches.
I agree with all of this. Whipple is largely scapegoated for the failures of others. He’ll catch on somewhere else and do well for himself.
Mark May is a moron...he was making Lou Holtz look like a genius when they were talking about RS being fired.
Love Randy Shannon as a person, and for what he done here as a player and coordinator, but being a head coach just wasn't for him. I would absolutely LOVE the idea of Jon Gruden. The college game would fit him to a T. Not just his coaching style, but his personality. I think he'd be one hell of a recruiter personally.
Link? I thought both were done. Leach was interviewed prior to the hiring of Shannon and the AD of Miami went to Oklahoma to get his Masters degree when Leach was at Oklahoma, I believe.
I ma listening to the QAM pregame coverage and they just said Whipple and Stouten were retained at least through the bowl game. they had the presser earlier in the day that apparently that was cleared up.
Yes, Leach was interviewed for the vacancy that Shannon filled. But then Leach put a kid in a room and sued ESPN, which IMO takes him off the list of serious contenders.
Very interesting to hear some sort of confirmation that Gruden would consider. Promising. Richt though? Has he really done anything at all for Georgia?
Ultimately Harris IS to blame for not taking the underneath routes, but how can a player get away with that time and time again for two seasons without the coach doing something about it? At first I defended Whipple on this, but after it continues to happen over that span of time you have to wonder why the coach can't get through to Harris. On the running game, they may have been behind GT and VT, but they still weren't running the ball enough with Harris at QB. Their running game was their strength, and honestly I don't get why it took Miller basically stealing time to really get in the rotation. Same with Storm Johnson really. Why is it that they only exclusively used him on returns? Either red shirt him or let him run. He is probably better than both Cooper and James right now. I love Cooper and everything he's done for this program, but he wasn't 100% and was probably the 4th or 5th best back this year yet they played him like their 1st or 2nd after he was cleared to play. I do think the development is mostly, if not all on the positional coaches, but I would like to think that if Whipple was that good, he would have gotten more out of them. Those guys looked like they were going to be studs at the beginning of their careers, and now they look like afterthoughts. I think Richt would be a great name. I think his time is just done at UGA, but he's still a great coach and a very good recruiter and still pretty young. He may not have had a whole lot of success as of late, but he had a great stretch with them and is a former Miami QB.
Lake Lewis, former ESPN Radio, reports on Twitter that a former ESPN co-worker has told him Jon Gruden to the University of Miami is a done deal at $3 million a year. That second tweet makes it sound as if he received reconfirmation from a UM alum. Discuss, gentlemen.
Don't know what to make of it yet until he fills out his staff. I do think that they should have kept interviewing people. Why not give Randy Edsall a interview? Kirby Smart? Yeah I know its Gruden but you have to do your due diligence.
Maybe Harris just doesn't give a damn what Whipple tells him. I've seen him ***** at Harris on the sideline multiple times and then Harris goes out there and does the same thing. "Probably better than Cooper and James right now" - Based off of what? Again, blame the positional coaches. Mark Whipple said he was going to scale down teh playbook and simplify it for the players before all the coaches got on him and then the players pleaded with him to keep the playbook as is.
What I love is Gruden is so Qb centric, maybe we can restart the run of Heisman Trophy Qb's? While it is not a done deal, a part of me does not want to see it happen, MNF will go back to SUCKING!!!!!!!! Which BTW, unless Whipple and Co do stick around and wait for MNF's season to end in about two months, this seems a bit dubious no?
Bet your *** Jon Gruden is going to run spread offense w/ no huddle. I'll be surprised if he doesn't. He spent all summer learning from Chip Kelly at Oregon and was thisclose to taking the OC job.
I am not underestimating Leach as a coach. I simply don’t believe he fits the profile that Hocutt and Shalala want in a head coach. That’s all. To be fair, the Lake Lewis stuff is thirdhand and comes only 2 hours after Hocutt said that UM would begin a nationwide search.
