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Henne "IS" the QB of the future....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. SICK

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    I am actually the guy that can spell "fantasy"

    And for the record, my sign on name at finheaven was sickfinfan33, and now SICK. thats it. Good memory though :wink2:
     
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  2. Pbateman

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    Um, the "best young QB prospect in the NFL"????? I mean no disrespect but that may be the single dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. Bradford, Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez (I don't care about the hate here the guy is winning games and getting better every week unlike Henne), Stafford (when healthy), Rodgers, these are just quick ones of the top of my head and don't take into consideration up and comers like Colt McCoy. At the end of the day, Henne is not the answer, Henne will never be a quality starting QB, although he may develop into a decent journeyman backup QB. I know he'll be kept for one more year which he has in his rookie contract, I just hope somebody has the friggin stones to man up and finally do whatever it takes to draft a top tier QB. Until that day, we will continue to struggle with these bargain basement QBs and their inability to perform at a high level consistently in the NFL. PERIOD......
     
  3. Phinvader Bill

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    I want to see Henne with a new OC. Sure, he's struggled, and today he turned in the worst QB performance since Pennington in the playoff game. But, I would like to see what a new OC can do with him before he is canned. I think that would make a big difference, and I also think that has to do with the success of the other young QBs. Say what you will about Cam Cameron, but he's a hell of an OC. I wish Pacells would have let him stay as our OC rather than bringing in Henning.
     
  4. Rocky Raccoon

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    This.

    I'm not giving up on Henne until I see him with a new coordinator and new system. I mean, though it's been a roller-coaster year for him, he HAS shown he has the ability to move the offense and make the throws. It's the inconsistencies that get him. But, I want to see him get another offseason and one with a new system and see what he can do.

    I would however, draft or acquire another young QB this offseason as kind of a plan B. Not in the first round though.
     
  5. SeanP

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    Bottom line, we're going to get another 4 games out of him to see what he's made of, and if the coaching staff isn't stupid, an entire offseason.

    I think he needs someone to rival him in the offseason, but honestly I'm trying to think of how that happens outside of mortgaging our draft for Vick. And even then Vick scares the crap out of me due to his playstyle (off-field personality aside).

    It'll be a fun offseason that's for sure. For now it's time to just enjoy the individual games and hope Ireland has been keeping his naughty and nice list together.
     
  6. Rocky Raccoon

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    Also, a silver lining about his interceptions is that most of them, including all 3 today, weren't bad decisions, just bad throws. I mean, obviously it doesn't make it better. But if a young QB is throwing picks, I rather have them be because of poor throws than poor decisions as I feel those are easier to correct.

    DO NOT take this as me making excuses, because I'm not, he was horrible today.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    me too. i said it during our 1-15 season but the offensive schemes we ran that year were the best ones I had seen since the Shula days. Unfortunately our players sucked which just proves personnell is far more important than coaching
     
  8. adamprez2003

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    thats actually a good point. i wonder if the third one was a good decision though. would that have gone for a first down? i know there were some longer routes run on that play but i dont know if they were better decisions or not
     
  9. Rocky Raccoon

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    We'll never know. That was some ****ty luck though.
     
  10. adamprez2003

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    agreed. my feeling is skip the QB and instead spend that pick on a different offensive player. RB with breakaway speed, WR who can run a 4.3, TE who can split the seam, a Center who can not only pass block but also run block, a guard who can do the same and maybe a tackle to replace Carey since I'm starting to get the sense that Carey is beginning to break down physically ala Smiley and Grove
     
  11. adamprez2003

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    our luck sucks this year.
     
  12. Stitches

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    I didn't think the 2nd INT was a good decision, and the 3rd one may have been an ok decision but i don't see how it would have went for a 1st down even.

    Honestly the 1st one is the throw I was most upset with (ignoring the context of the 3rd one), because we struggle with plays over 20+ yds and here was a perfect chance at a huge TD that we just let not only fall to the wayside but gave the ball away too.
     
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  13. gilv13

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    I second this notion. I especially agree with the part of the success of the other young QB's with coordinators that actually work with their QB's strengths and coach them, unlike what we have now.
     
  14. Pbateman

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    Huh? His whole career, four years at Michigan and three in the NFL, have been about bad throws/decisions. Look, I wanted him to be a franchise QB as much as the next guy but he's not, **** Fiedler was a superior QB when compared with Henne. It was the FO decision to take an LT #1 overall instead of a QB, so now we live with it until we get another shot at a first round QB. Andrew Luck is the only QB who should be considered next year, and I don't see any logical way we get him so we have to deal with the turd in the pocket QB that is Henne for another year. I'm half hoping there is a lockout now, I've never been more disappointed in a dolphins season than this one, and I'm 36 - I've intelligently followed the phins for approximately three decades now, I just can't fathom this bull**** anymore
     
  15. padre31

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    Henne is wildly inconsistent, he does show Starting Caliber Talent one week, the next week he looks as crappy as a John Beck, is his knee giving him problems?

    :dunno:

    Do know this is season #2 he is killing for Dolfans and richly deserved the booing he received today.
     
  16. Ozzy

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    Having two/three or four even, good Qb's on the roster is a healthy thing and especially if they love to compete. Most athletes like to so it can only help to get another Qb, and hope he is better than Henne. Might light a fire under one of them.

    Even if they aquire another Cb early. I would not have a huge problem with it even though it might be a waste with no 2nd rounder. But to me, even though I'm very high on Sean Smith, it would make one elevate his game.
     
  17. Rocky Raccoon

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    Pads, just stop. Please. Henne is the sole reason for the killing of our season? Give me a freaking break.

    What about the 16-0 loss on national tv where Henne didn't play? Special teams nightmares? Lack of running game? Dan Henning? Those things had NOTHING to do with "killing" our season? It's a team effort no matter what you want to think and there were a lot of things that caused these miscues.
     
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  18. Stitches

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    Yea, this was the first game this year where I really felt the loss fell all on Chad's shoulders.
     
  19. padre31

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    5 game season RR, Henne had his worst game of the season, as per usual, like the Ravens game the bigger the stage the more he chokes..so far.

    This is not a Fati Compli, Henne's story is not written yet, or not completely written, but "we" all keep seeing the same things from him when it matters.
     
  20. Da 'Fins

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    I think it is correct that Sparano and Ireland have tied their careers to Henne. That doesn't mean they don't need to bring in QB competition. But, they gave up next year's 2nd round pick for Marshall (which, indirectly, is tying yourself to Henne as the guy who can take you all the way). As a result the Dolphins will be drafting mid first, then mid 3rd.

    If they go QB in round 1 it's pretty much looking at Mallett - I just don't see him competing for a starting spot any time soon and he's a huge risk, imo. That leaves 3rd though 7th round to shore up other weak areas ... not a good scenario. They also need RB's, TE, Interior OL (Center anyone?), maybe another WR, an ILB, a S, maybe even a CB.

    They are between a rock and a hard place as far as getting a QB to genuinely compete for the starter slot - though it is necessary.
     

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