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Dexter Season 5

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  1. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    Actually your right, after looking into it I must have mistaken the announcement for the next season of Weeds with Dexter.

    I agree that the Writers need to come up with some strong ingenuity to not ruin the drama of the series. To me though, all things point towards Lumen being the one to take the blame for the vigilante murders. The preview episode for next week shows her being the one caught on video, and really the only element remaining to cause problems for Dex is Robocop. They are already portraying him as a major antagonist, and we all remember how that turned out with Doakes...who was far more likable than Robocop's character.
     
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  2. Ray Finkle

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    Robocop has been beyond awesome this season in his short cameo appearances. You're probably right about Lumen getting fingered for it. You have to wonder if she does if Dexter will come forward or not.
     
  3. Phinvader Bill

    Phinvader Bill The all new Mr. Event

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    I don't know...Maybe something happens to Robocop like maybe he's snooping around Dexter's house when Chase and his goons show up, they see him, and therefore he will have to die.
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    I'd find that very disappointing. I mean if Chase was going to send his men after Dexter and Lumen they would probably do it without alerting them that they know what's up. If anything were to happen to Robocop i bet Quinn has something to do with it.
     
  5. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Somehow I think Robocop is being set up to take a major fall, he's made an enemy of Quinn now....not good for his long term prospects. I think Debra finds out before the season is over, her and Quinn more than likely. Jordan Chase knowing about Lumen was a major bomb at the end of the episode, really good episode. I haven't heard about this being the last season, I would think it would have been thrown out there that this is the last season by now. I don't see any reason why Showtime would want to end the show and none of the major characters have any reason to leave the show.
     
  6. CrunchTime

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    I was slow to warm to this season because I guess I expected another formula season which we all complain about but miss when we dont get it.

    IMO getting away from the formula is a plus and its turning out to be as rich and layered and surprising as some of the best seasons.

    I am really enjoying it.
     
  7. Ray Finkle

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    It might be in Showtime and the show's best interest to keep that information (whether it is the last season or not) quiet that way the viewer will be more on edge due to the uncertainly of things. I remember when 24 was midway through the 5th season and FOX announced they signed Kiefer Sutherland to a new 3 year deal, all of the drama and suspense was taken out of the show after that since everyone knew Jack was going to die.

    Anyway a show like Dexter has a limited self life as it, really how many seasons can they do without using the same formula and things getting old and being repeated (which the show has already done numerous times). The ratings are still good so I'm sure if it was up to Showtime they'd keep the show going but sometimes enough is enough. Personally I think 5 seasons is really enough for any TV show (it's hard to keep coming up with fresh/new ideas) but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 6th season of Dexter.
     
  8. Ray Finkle

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    It's funny how, like you said, we all complained a bit that Dexter is basically the same each season and when they do something different we hate it. But the beginning of the season was very slow and boring. The last two episodes have been really good and although the writers have said they're staying away from using the same formula, they actually haven't the past 3 episodes, especially now that we have a main bad guy in the picture, and now its good again go figure.
     
  9. CrunchTime

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    Its different because the main villain has been introduced slowly .The first few episodes the writers were trying to dramatize the phsycological transition of Dexter's tragedy.It was not that riveting to some.

    Then Lumens is introduced and we get to the second stage which is to establish her character and the elimination of the small fish.

    Now we have the the last stage which is catching of the Big Fish which is always more entertaining that catching the small fish.
     
  10. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    i dont have a link, but i recall reading some info from michael c hall during the run up to this season. there may have been another producer quoted as well. essentially, it said that after trinity killer, they didnt want to make this season with another main villain and they were going to save another major villain for the final season
     
  11. Ray Finkle

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    I really think the writers failed on the psychological transition of Dexter's loss. Not only was that not interesting at all but it did nothing in terms of growth for Dexter as a character. Really there's no difference in him from when Rita was alive to now other than he has a nanny watching his son. Although maybe due to Dexter's mentality nothing could really change him. But it would be nice to see Dexter grow as a person. Maybe even start to question why he does what he does and that he does have a choice and responsibility as a single parent to stop it and focus on his kid(s).
     
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  12. Ray Finkle

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    You're correct in that they said they didn't want to have another main villain because no one would be able to match Trinity however I'd say Jordan Chase is a main/major villain now and he's going to be in at least half of the episodes by the time this season is over. So they kind of lied in that aspect.

    And I don't remember them ever saying they would save another major villain for the final season.
     
  13. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If they can keep the writers and cast around I don't see why the show can't go on for a few more seasons. Its in its 5th year and I think this season is up there with any of the other seasons, I don't see any reason to stop the show now.
     
  14. maynard

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    i dont think they handled his moments of introspection well. it might have been better for him to take off in his boat that day
     
  15. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    btw, has anyone watched the webisodes or whatever they are? just curious if they are worth watching
     
  16. maynard

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    i think you are right. thing is, i cant imagine it ending without wrapping up the character somehow. even if its a half season or just a single 2 hour episode. hell maybe even a movie. it think there is plenty of demand for it
     
  17. Ray Finkle

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    The show has already changed writers and producers a few times already that's not the issue. I really can't see how they can keep a show like this going while keeping it both good and fresh, after awhile it's going to be too much of a been there/done that feel to the series (which at times has already felt like that). I'd rather a show go out on a high note then drag it out just to drag it out and the series quality goes down.
     
  18. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I wish they would go back to the basics - Dexter's character development and killing people. His story arch is a mess (spent 4 years showing how much he cared about Rita and now she doesn't even get mentioned most episodes). He used to "need" the kills - now it is just part of the storyline.

    They spend too much time on the surrounding characters that aren't nearly as interesting.
     
  19. finfansince72

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    I don't see the show going downhill anytime soon, they have a great cast and the writers are very good, there seems to be a very high standard for the show. I'd rather they keep making the show until the quality isn't there. The show is better than about 95% of the shows out there I don't see any reason for anyone to stop just to avoid 'possibly' making a worse season.
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    Finally Dexter is showing emotion and care towards someone else. Last night's episode was strong in that aspect. I really have no clue where the story is going with only 2 episodes left but I think that lady, I believe her name was Emily Birch, Lumen visited is going to end up being the scapegoat in all of this and is going to be the one that pins the 'Chase and Co' deaths on. Unless of course Jordan doesn't kill her which is what it looked like in the previews for next week.

    The one thing that does bug me/doesn't make sense is why doesn't Chase just take care of Dexter and Lumen? He knows they're after him and knows where they live etc. Just seems strange.
     
  21. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I wondered why Jordan wouldn't take them out as well.

    Also - why did they have to kill the 4th guy BEFORE killing Jordan. I would think, being that Jordan knows they are TRYING to kill him, he would be the person they would go for next.

    I also think Lumen is going to take the fall for all of the murders.
     
  22. Ray Finkle

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    I agree, the only thing that might be stopping them is Jordan's bodyguards. Maybe they know they don't have a clear shot at him yet. Either way you'd think now more than ever its going to be harder to them to get to him.
     
  23. Phinvader Bill

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    I don't think Lumen takes the fall. I also think this season ends with a cliff hanger.
     
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    From the trailers the season 5 of Dexter seems to be an interesting one..
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I figured after the episode 2 weeks ago that there would probably be another season. The past 4 episodes have been very good after a snoozefest at the beginning of the season. Hopefully the final two episodes are good. And yeah I think this season will end in a cliff hanger as well. Maybe with Deb finally finding out who Dexter is exactly.
     
  27. Cpt T Kirk

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    I think it is pretty obvious Deb is going to find out about Dexter in the season finale. Or at least know he was helping out Lumen the entire time bringing down Jordan Chase's guys. I don't know what will come of that.

    Also Im thinking that Quinn is going to be tied to Liddy's murder and Dexter will cut a deal with him. Quinn getting the blood on his shoe and all. Im sure something will happen there.
     
  28. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah Quinn is screwed. I really liked the episode. It was pretty intense. I also think Deb is going to find out about both Dexter and Lumen. I mean there's blood everywhere at Emily's house, some of it Lumen's. Unless Dexter cleans it up of course.

    I'm a little disappointed Dexter killed Liddy. It just seemed like the easy way out, but probably the only way for Dexter to get out of it.

    1 more episode left.
     
  29. Phinz420

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    Yeah, it was only a matter of time until that went down....No other way for Dex to get out of it in the end. As to whether or not Deb finds out the truth, I wouldnt be surprised at all if the preview for the finale is toying with us about her walking in on Dex. Though that would basically leave only a few potential replacements for that scene...doubt its Jordan Chase, but it could very well be Quinn or Lumen. The interesting thing if it was Lumen, due to Deb's theory on the vigilantes it would automatically link Dex to the whole mess.

    Can't wait for next week.
     
  30. Jt0323

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    Dexter has to get caught.

    Quinn knows Liddy was going after Dexter, and now hes dead. Quinn is not stupid. But I think they are going to see that Quinn checked out the equipment and with the blood on his shoes, Quinn going to take the fall. Deb is not stupid either. He seen Quinn with Liddy. Should be interesting in the direction they go.
    I think with the preview for next week, they want us to think Deb finds dexter but i think its going to be something different. I keep watching the preview and I noticed Quinn is in the interrogation room which makes me believe hes going to be questioned about Liddy.
     
  31. Jt0323

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    Dexter has to get caught.

    Quinn knows Liddy was going after Dexter, and now hes dead. Quinn is not stupid. But I think they are going to see that Quinn checked out the equipment and with the blood on his shoes, Quinn going to take the fall. Deb is not stupid either. He seen Quinn with Liddy. Should be interesting in the direction they go.
    I think with the preview for next week, they want us to think Deb finds dexter but i think its going to be something different. I keep watching the preview and I noticed Quinn is in the interrogation room which makes me believe hes going to be questioned about Liddy. \

    the two scenes in the preview are obviously different, as the knife, "Dexter" is standing upright, the other scene he is slouching...

    I will be pissed if they play it off as Jordan Chase killed these men and then Dexter kills Chase. Dexter has to get caught.
     
  32. Phinvader Bill

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    I think that something happens to Lumen which sends Dexter over the edge in the next season, causing him to do things that will make us feel less disappointment when he ultimately does go down.
     
  33. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I think the preview is making us think Deb finds out, I don't think it's going to happen because they would want it to shock us when it does.

    What's Quinn's proof though about Dexter? He has nothing but pictures of Dexter and Lumen on his boat with suitcases. Dexter took all of Liddy's tapes etc. Unless of course Liddy made back ups but I doubt the show would bother with something like that. I wonder if Dexter is going to admit to killing Liddy in order to get Quinn out of trouble since Dexter did of course do it. Dexter, though, still believes Quinn is targeting him so maybe he won't speak up.

    I've been thinking hard about Lumen's role on the show moving forward. I don't think anyone wants to see her and him running around next season together. If Lumen dies it's just another recycled storyline and so close to Rita's death. It might be overkill (pun intended). I also don't see her sitting at home as a 'housewife' for Dexter taking care of Harrison. I also don't see her just picking up her stuff and going home. I really have no clue what's going to happen with her.
     
  34. Phinvader Bill

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    Lumen grew on me.
     
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    Yea, they cut that together well, but like you I think Deb was speaking to someone else(in the preview).


    Why didn't Dex just take the van? And toss the laptop into the water right near the van? Isn't that the first place that police look when there is a dead body near water. SMMMART
     
  36. Phinvader Bill

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    Well the current going in and out of the inlet would carry the laptop away.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    I agree not only that but couldn't someone still be able to pull information off the lap top or would the water automatically destroy it? Also, wouldn't you think some of Dexter's hair/DNA would be inside the van? He could be a suspect.
     
  38. Finfangirl

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    I just saw this thread, so im jumping in late, but im so excited to see you guys watch dexter too. I also thought the first few of this season were boring, but i went back and watched them and have changed my mind. The writers and producers are brilliant, they have slowly layered this season all together. I just watched the latest episode yesterday and i was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I think quinn is gonna pinned because of the blood on his shoe. I also have no idea how Dexter is gonna get away with all of this, without it looking hookie. Debra is going to have to find out sooner or later, and i think the producers have gone out of their way to show her as compassionate towards a "vigilante". So, i think she will b ok with who dexter is. In the future she might even help him to track down people the law cant. WHo knows? But, i cant wait to see the finale.
     
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    ^^^

    Debra is going to be crushed if she finds out everything. I'd bet that if she finds out anything, she somehow catches Dex with Lumen, and puts the pieces together. Dex will give her what he wants to give her and nothing more.
     
  40. Ray Finkle

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    While normally I'd bash this episode because it wrapped up everything nice and easy but I actually enjoyed it. Everything made sense from wrapping up the Lumen storyline, to Quinn getting off, to Deb etc.

    I do wonder what they could possibly do next season (I know I say it after every season) but really where else can this show go without repeating itself? The writers said they were switching things up and not having a main bad guy but that last all of what 5 or 6 episodes before they went back to the same basic formula. The show was so close to having Dexter getting caught, especially by Deb, I just feel like the writers are very gun shy about giving us that, which is understandable since they're probably saving the big Deb/Dexter reveal for the last season but how many times can Dexter get out of things and everything be wrapped up in a nice bow.
     

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