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Can we talk playoffs?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Shoes, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. Jaj

    Jaj Registered

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    Mind-boggling I tell you Padre.

    To be honest with you I think it's a matter of obviously winning out and seeing if the Bills can beat the Jets. That's really about it. If that last game for the Jets doesn't count and they're coming off of four straight losses why are we so convinced they won't lose that one. Put yourself in that situation of the Jets coming back from Chicago at 9-6 there's a pretty big chance that Jets team just loses another. A four game tailspin? Four games! Expecting a four win team to automatically beat Buffalo isn't necessarily going to happen.

    Heck they may even fire that ****er...

    I think there's a greater chance of the Jets sliding like that then Baltimore losing two games. Baltimore's for real. The Jets are not.
     
  2. Cpt T Kirk

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    Until Miami has a complete overhaul of the offense, Im not expecting playoffs anytime soon.
     
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  3. padre31

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    :chuckle:

    It can happen, each week though, the thread of our doom grows slimmer, we have only the fainte..

    Aw geez, we are Frodo trudging towards mt doom.
     
  4. ToddsPhins

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    The Jets will lose to Pitt & Chicago..... we'll beat Buffalo & Detroit.

    And NY has a legitimate shot at losing to Buffalo while we might be playing NE's backups if the Pats pull starters to keep them healthy for the playoffs. I wouldn't mind backing in like NY did last year!!!!!

    We still have a very real shot to make it IMO.
     
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  5. Jaj

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    Always a chance I suppose if they get their act together on offense. As for the Jets I don't think I remember the last time a team at 9-4 was in such a state of panic.
     
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  6. TiP54

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    To be quick, and to the point...No.
    This team is not going to the playoffs. It isn't consistent or coached well enough to make the playoffs.
     
  7. CirclingWagons

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    The goods, tbh.
     
  8. padre31

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    08 Jets were 9-2, did not win another game that yr.
     
  9. CirclingWagons

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    They were 8-3, finished 9-7...their only remaining win coming at home against the Bills when JP Losman fumbled away a TD when all he had to do was hand it off.
     
  10. padre31

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    Oh yeah...sorry about that one...


    [​IMG]

    Err.. I mean..Back to 3-13..your 4 lost SB's in a row will not avail you..flame of tonawanda!!!
     
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  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    You can talk playoffs all you want. It doesn't affect the outcome. Absolutely no reason not to talk playoffs if you're not apart of the Miami Dolphins organization.

    We are fans. Nothing more, nothing less. We aren't going to affect the outcome.

    And it amazes me that people bring up our offensive performance today for a reason why we won't stand a chance making the playoffs. Did anyone see the field conditions? You can bring up past performances, but today's performance? It was a game under sloppy conditions. There's a reason why everyone was dropping passes and having trouble holding onto the ball.
     
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  12. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Why the **** not?
     
  13. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    This offense needs to show something against the Bills, who have a good pass defense. We have to run. I don't know why we only handed the ball to Ricky 10 times against the Jets, he should have had 20 carries and 30 for Ronnie in the bad weather.

    As for Playoffs, don't sleep on the Ravens possible losing 2 games. They will beat the Bengals, but Texans may win, Saints obviously can win and Browns are tough sometimes.
     
  14. King Felix

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    i know it's different than 2007, but i don't think they will be resting starters. belicheck doesn't do it. and it hasn't exactly worked for indy either, with the bye and all.
     
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  15. Jaj

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    They did it in 2005. I don't see why they won't do it. Put a couple hits on Brady and we'll see what happens.
     
  16. rafael

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    My understanding is that we have about a 3% chance. Obviously those aren't good odds. That being said, I've been watching long enough to know that I should never underestimate the Jets ability to implode. I have felt that this year the Jets and Dolphins were about equivalent teams. The record differences were mostly luck. They got a bunch of wins on luck and we lost a couple with bad luck. If the luck were to balance out over the rest of the season that could turn around.

    I'll never understand the mentality of the poster who needs to continually say "we have no shot" or words to that effect. Maybe they like to be able to come back and claim they were right or something. I don't know why anybody would be proud of predicting something that has a 97% chance of happening, though? But I've watched football long enough to know that unbeatable teams become losing teams in the span of a few weeks all the time and vice-a-versa. Will it happen to the right combination of teams this year? Who knows? But I do know that saying it can't happen is factually inaccurate.
     
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  17. the 23rd

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    we are a very long shot @ 3% but we're still in the running
     
  18. Shoes

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    "So you're saying there's a chance"

    [​IMG]
     
  19. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I think the least probable of all the scenarios is the Dolphins running the table. So really it doesn`t matter what the Jets or Ravens do.
     
  20. Big Red

    Big Red Long Lasting Freshness

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    I was really torn watching the Jets game. I can't help rooting for us to win! But the whole time the logic half of my brain kept reminding me that we don't have a realistic shot at the playoffs and all we're doing is making our draft slot worse.

    Playoffs are still a possibility so I guess I will root for the postseason and worry about the draft later. :up:
     
  21. MarinePhinFan

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    I've never had a problem with rooting for the Dolphins.

    Fans who root for the draft boggle my mind.
     
  22. padre31

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    Indeed, completely befuddling how so many people can confuse means, with ends, acquiring players means nothing, it is how they do in the games that matters..
     
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  23. Big Red

    Big Red Long Lasting Freshness

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    Excellent point! That would be awesome!!!
     
  24. CirclingWagons

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    The thought of Buffalo winning another game this year is laughable
     
  25. ToddsPhins

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    Thanks.... I didn't think anyone even read that post. :lol:
     
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  26. ToddsPhins

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    Sir, this thread is for Dolphin playoff hopes, not Buffalo losing out every game and passing on Luck b/c of Fitz's success only to watch Ryan plummet next year. Carry on. :shifty:
     
  27. Dolphins1Beatles

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    Playoffs took a major dent with the Ravens pulling it out over Houston. FYI Jason Allen got burned multiple times by Mason. Saints beating the Ravens would be nice, but does not help Miami now. They need to lose to the Browns and Bengals. Sorry, not happening.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-dolphins-playoff-picture-121310,0,7888673.story

    In the AFC South, the 7-6 Indianapolis Colts face the visiting 8-5 Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. A Jaguars win would eliminate anyone from this division being able to get into the postseason over a 10-6 Dolphins as a wild card. If the Colts win and both Jacksonville and Indy finish 10-6, the Colts would take the AFC South with a better common-games record (8-4 to 7-5). A 10-6 Jaguars would win a head-to-head tiebreaker with the Dolphins with a better conference record (8-4 to 7-5). After the Colts game, the Jaguars host the Washington Redskins (5-8) and then close at the 5-8 Texans.

    In the AFC West, the Dolphins need either the 8-5 Chiefs or 7-6 Chargers to lose one more game to eliminate a team from this division from winning a head-to-head tiebreaker with a 10-6 Dolphins. The Chargers have, on paper, a cakewalk, hosting 5-8 San Francisco on Thursday night, and then finishing in the cold at 2-11 Cincinnati and 3-10 Denver. The best chance of the Dolphins getting a Chiefs or Chargers loss may come this Sunday as Kansas City travels to face the young but dangerous St. Louis Rams (6-7). After the Rams game, the Chiefs finish with home games against 5-8 Tennessee and 6-7 Oakland.

    Assuming the Dolphins get clear of those threats from the West or South teams, the last team standing in their way would be the reeling New York Jets. The Jets are 9-4 and a win this week in Pittsburgh or in their season finale against the Bills at the New Meadowlands Stadium would ensure the Dolphins finish third in the AFC East and, barring that inconceivable Ravens collapse, eliminate Miami.

    However, if the Jets lose their third game in a row, they could actually win in Chicago on Dec. 26 and still lose a divisional-record tiebreaker with a 10-6 Dolphins if the Bills were to pull the upset on Jan. 2.


    I knew the Steelers game would come back to haunt us in the end. Basically, Jets need to lose to Steelers and Bills or Ravens collapse[that's not happening]. It's all on a Jets collapse now...assuming the Fins win out which might not happen.
     
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  28. Big Red

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    I hear you guys. I always root for us to win but the last few years our season has ended early. There was a stretch of four years where we rarely played meaningful football in December. When you are in the middle of a losing season all you have to root for is a high draft pick.

    The 2008 season went a long way toward changing that. But then we regressed in 2009. After the losses to Chicago and Cleveland it felt like our 2010 season was over. So I fell back on old habits and started thinking about the draft.

    The Jets game in particular was pivotal this season. If we lost we were looking at potentially landing a Top 10 pick. Now that we won we are in the playoff hunt and will probably pick somewhere in the late teens. Talk about going either way!

    It sounds like I am not going to convince you guys of the value of a high draft pick but there is a huge difference between getting Larry Fitzgerald with the 3rd pick and Rashaun Woods with the 31st pick.

    Man, I miss Shula. When he was head coach I almost never looked ahead to the draft.
     
  29. Big Red

    Big Red Long Lasting Freshness

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    Here's another way to look at it. The Bengals are 2-11. The Panthers are 1-12. Do you think Bengals fans are rooting for wins or losses these final three games? I'll give you a hint...

    They are rooting for losses at this point. (Okay that wasn't really a hint but my point was made.)
     
  30. CirclingWagons

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    Don't expect anything and you'll never be let down :up:
     
  31. ToddsPhins

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    What if you're sitting in a REALLLLLLLY tall swing? :huh:
     
  32. padre31

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    Plan B requires SD AND KC to finish 10-6, we want a 3 way tie breaker to be in effect and eliminate the head to head loss.

    If SD slides into the AFCW title, we beat KC and the Ravens out as they have lost their advantage over the Dolphins.

    Basically, we need the Ravens to finish 1-2.

    Plan A of course, is Jets collapse whilst the other 7-6 teams also finish 9-7 (KC, SD, Colts or Jags).

    As I've said, head into wk #17, up in Foxboro, with a "win and you are in" scenario would be perfect for me.

    Whether we win or not in Foxboro.

    Love my Phins and want a rematch with the Stealers, however this offense?

    Where are we going?
     
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  33. Jt0323

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    Yeah our chances of making the playoffs are very slim, but its refreshing to be able to be this far into the season watching football knowing you still have a chance. It may be a small chance but you still have one... Even if they were eliminated im still rooting for miami. A win may hurt our draft stock but i don't care. Last year when we were out playing the Steelers in the last game of the season i was upset that we lost. And there is no way I would ever root for the Jets to beat the dolphins. I dont care how much of an impact that has our our draft spot. I want to beat them!
     
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  34. Big Red

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    Stranger things have happened.

    Go Jags! :lol:

    BTW The Texans and the Jags are division rivals. So the rules don't apply. Either team could win that game. Don't forget Houston swept Jacksonville last year. And that final game is on their home turf.

    The Chargers lost to the Raiders at home two weeks ago. 'nuff said. Nobody in that division is a powerhouse and it would be impossible to predict any outcome.

    As long as they lose to the Bills, they can lose to the Steelers or the Bears and we would win the tie-breaker.

    It's not the Steelers game that haunts me.
     
  35. Shamboubou

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    God this thread does nothing but make me think back to games like the Steelers and Browns. We got so screwed on the Steelers call so hard, played horrible and got beat on a last second field goal against the browns. Just those two wins alone would have us all singing a much different tune around here.
     
  36. Phinatic19

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    The Jets had the #1 rushing attack and #1 defense. Something we are not.
     
  37. The_Dark_Knight

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    As much as we still mathematically have a chance at the playoffs, reality has set it. We could win out, finish at 10-6 and STILL miss the playoffs.

    In order to keep our playoff hopes realistically alive, Baltimore needed to lose last night...and the Texans just weren't the team to to make that happen.

    What I think is a travesty is how the NFC "Less" will have represenatation in the playoffs with an 8-8 record and yet could finish 10-6 and be watching the playoffs from the house.

    There's just GOT to be a better way.
     
  38. ToddsPhins

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    Hey, the Pats got screwed out of the playoffs in 08 at an 11-5 record while the Chargers get in at 8-8, so us not making it at 10-6 wouldn't surprise me.

    Yeah, and thanks HOUSTON!! lol.
     
  39. the 23rd

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    we can talk all we want to & have every right to do just that
    however
    we are not in control of our future, we need fate to intervene
    big time! :arabia:
    & should we get there, which is a good thing
    independent of anything else, the other shoe will drop
    the question:
    how to win @ that level without a QB & an anemic offense

    guess we'll have to cross that bridge if we come to it :butthead:
    would really be nice to make the play-offs
    would be even nicer to get that franchise QB in the draft this year
     
  40. MarinePhinFan

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    Win your division. It's the only sure way of getting in.

    However, if a division winner is 8-8 and a WC team is 10-6, I think the lower team should have to travel to the WC winner's stadium.
     

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