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Henning openly critical of Henne's play

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...-henning-throws-chad-henne-under-the-bus.html

    Well, there is more in the story, the protection he is speaking about is the one most of us have put on Lydon Murtha when Pace went past him unblocked, that protection call was Henne's to make, and he botched it.

    If folks recall, Sparano said the sacks had nothing to do with the blocking performance..which means Henne blew the protection calls, the linemen blocked whom they were expected to block, Henne was not calling the proper protections..

    Err, this ain't good Leon, not good at all, it causes a spiral of mistrust to develop.
     
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  2. dolfan22

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    Blame someone else to deflect the blame being thrust on you perhaps?
     
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  3. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    I think at this point Henning would blame just about anything or anybody for this offense's poor performance. Which ultimately is his responsibility. Was it Henne who called the WC after the beautiful pass to Fasano last game?
     
  4. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Henne supporters will say that's what Henning is doing and Henning supporters will say see I told you it was Henne's fault.
     
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  5. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    I blame the coaching staff before I place blame upon any of the players, especially Chad Henne. It's clear that Henning has to go.
     
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  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I would agree if Sparano had not said more or less the same thing when he spoke about Murtha doing a good job, the only difference is Henning singled out Henne, Sparano did not say who was really to blame that was up to the Football Fan and Reporters to figure out..and even then it would not have been easy to piece together.

    You see a Pace running past Murtha unblocked, you figure it is Murtha who messed up, if it wasn't Murtha the next suspect would be the running back, but he was on the other side of the formation, then the Guard..when all along it was Henne's screw up.
     
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  7. m ino

    m ino New Member

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    it worries me that sporano may feel it's henne's fault to a point he feels our playcalling is fine and we get stuck with henning next year too when they both should really go.and it frustrates me that a guy who's been a o-line coach forever can't field a consistant group of ones much less backups that are good enough to last more than a yr here.
     
  8. padre31

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    What bothers me is no one is bothering to read the article and quote it, so far it is just emotional reaction without even bothering to look at what was said.

    That second fumble? By design it was meant to call for using one hand to deliver the ball, the ball was soaked and slick, but instead of modifying the play and using two hands, Henne used one hand..as the play called for..Robot wouldn't adjust to the onfield conditions..
     
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  9. Stitches

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    All I know for sure is that Marshall was definitely open on the play and it could've been a far better result.
     
  10. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    Henning is a jackhole!!! Same crap he was fired in Carolina... He runs an inept offense unless you have a QB with PERFECT accuracy. Pennington was that, positive and negative. When he wasn't perfect the offense was exposed for what it is: Dink and Dunk bullcrap!

    Give Henne an offense that yields a running game or plays that aren't blatantly obvious routes and he will flourish, mark my words...

    and Padre31 - PLEASE get rid of the creepy sig, LOL!
     
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  11. MarinePhinFan

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    I think the center is also responsible for calling protections, making sure all the hats are blocked...etc, etc. For Henning to call out ONE guy for anything other than something that's blatant, is not only irresponsible but desperate.
     
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  12. padre31

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    Hmm, and the fumble that cost the FG try?

    Henning to?

    Bro, methinks the excuse virus is beginning to manifest itself in re Chad Henne.
     
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  13. MarinePhinFan

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    I don't think it was meant to be a hand off. Both Henne and Ricky's reaction tell me that it was a bootleg to the right.
     
  14. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The only thing this article confirms is that this staff doesn't have that much faith or confidence in Chad Henne. It doesn't matter whose fault it is. It doesn't matter if we get a new OC. If this head coach stays, we will have a new starting QB next year.
     
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  15. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I read the god damn article Padre and it is Dan "egomaniac" Henning calling out his young QB and putting none of the blame on himself. A good coach would use a little more "we's" when explaining mistakes to the media. Sorry but Henning is a fuggin' puke. He should absolutely know better than to take this route. It's classless and further divides the team. It is a desperate shout out to save his own ***.
    are you kidding me? The things that would have got us started. Henning marched the Wildpuzzy out there after the Fasano play and gained a yard. Then he runs Ricky for nothing. And he is blaming Henne for not getting us started.

    Mr Hand is turning into Mr.Fist listening to Henning place the blame on two mistakes the young QB made in this football game. He doesn't even mention the perfect pass Henne threw to Marshall at the end of the 3rd QTR that BM didn't fight for.

    Dan Henning can eat it.
     
  16. padre31

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    Read the article, Henning comes clean on what happened./
     
  17. MarinePhinFan

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    And whom will that be?
     
  18. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Coach Henning is nothing short of a genius....

    okay can they fire him now...?
     
  19. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I would expect you to be smart enough to not side with "The Egomaniac"
    I guess I was wrong. You have no clue.
     
  20. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    You can't say that now. These mistakes Henne is making are common for a young QB against good defenses. Henne will most definitely have a shot to start next year. You can't put all of the offenses issues on him. The running game has been putrid this year, receivers and lineman shuffled in and out, and constant questionable play calling. I really don't give a crap if anyone thinks I'm making excuses for Henne, it's the absolute truth.
     
  21. padre31

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    I see things for what they are Bro, I have no agenda either way with Chad Henne and see no reason for Henning to prevaricate, and for Sparano to say the same thing in more oblique terms.

    After a time, when it starts quacking, and waddling, and swimming and has an orange bill, it is duck no matter what the name plate identifies..

    My goals for Henne have not changed, 19 Td's 3k yds, less than 22 turnovers in total
     
  22. MarinePhinFan

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    I just read the article. Either the writer or Henning is contradicting themself.

    Henning calls is a bootleg and then he says Henne never got the ball to Ricky. Which was it?

    Did Ricky hit the ball? Henning isn't even sure. It's hard to tell in the replay, but when I first watched it it looked as if Ricky hit the ball.
     
  23. schmolioot

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    I don't know what to tell you.

    This regime has already benched Henne once and Penny would still be playing if he hadn't been hurt. And now both the HC and coordinator are being more critical of him.

    Henne might be on the team next year. but he will absolutely be competing with a veteran or a 1st round pick
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

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    Why does being benched or being critical mean they're giving up on him? I went over this over and over when the benching happened. Henne is a young quarterback. He doesn't have much experience, and with Pennington on the roster, the smart thing to do was to bench the struggling QB in hopes of reviving the offense and save the season. It happens all the time. Again, being benched and being critical and disappointed is not good, but it's far from giving up on a young QB.
     
  25. MarinePhinFan

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    From the article: “We can’t continue to exist with as little a passing game as we had last week,” Henning said after a 30-yard net passing performance for the Dolphins. “We have to do better than that.”

    Someone should ask the ****** if he's happy with the running game.
     
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  26. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Young QB's who have their coaches confidence rarely get benched. Henne was yanked from the NE game earlier this year and he was sat down for what would've been the rest of the season had Penny not been injured.

    I don't know what makes you think Henne goes into next season as the unquestioned starter based on what you've seen thus far.
     
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  27. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Another Dan Henning supporter I suppose. It won't matter who is the QB of this team if "The Egomaniac" is running the show. Henning is downright awful at his job and now he has pushed the limit of how he handles personnel. Blaming a young QB in the media for his own inadequacies. That is about as classless as it gets. Great move to motivate a team that still has a slight playoff chance. I just can't wrap my mind around this article. I mean I know it is a last gasp to save his *** but at what cost. One of the most ridiculous things is people here are buying into this trash. Daily I'm embarrassed by the organization and it's fans. Today is no different.
     
  28. Stringer Bell

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    When did anyone say anything in support of Dan Henning?
     
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  29. Rocky Raccoon

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    Umm, no. Henne wasn't benched in the New England game. He was taken out because the game was a blowout in the 4th quarter.

    And when did I say he was going to be the unquestioned starter going into next season? Read my post again. I said he'll have a chance to start. He'll probably be competing with another veteran.
     
  30. the 23rd

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    think they finally figured out the guy is a bust & are preparing for his exit & replacement ?
     
  31. MarinePhinFan

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    As a Dolphins fan you should have an agenda to see Henne succeed. Now, this doesn't mean you blindly support him, but an agenda to give him some time to prove himself isn't asking much.
     
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  32. MarinePhinFan

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    Nope...
     
  33. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    If this organization hangs Chad Henne over the opinion of Dan Henning we are in big trouble. The fact that Sparano supports this is also baffling.
    I do however excuse uneducated fans for supporting it. Especially in this case. :wink2:
     
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  34. MarinePhinFan

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    "I have all the trust in the world of Dan on game day to let him do his thing," Sparano said. "One of the things I learned as a play caller was that the head coach can get in the way sometimes. People in your ear, too many chefs in the kitchen, that can be a problem. I like to stay out of the way of Dan as much as possible."

    Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...olphins-old-coordinator-henning#ixzz18JKcA6nt


    I think Sparano gives Dan too much freedom.
     
  35. MarinePhinFan

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    "I'm the type of guy who goes for the par," says Henning, of the various options available to his quarterback on each pass play. "Jake goes for the eagle. I've had quarterbacks who had to have it absolutely perfect before they'd throw downfield. The game's not like that. That's why I like Jake. He takes intelligent chances." -

    ---Dan Henning
     
  36. schmolioot

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    I don't recall saying one thing supportive of Dan Henning.

    All I stated was the obvious fact, that this staff has no confidence in Chad Henne. This is obvious to see. I don't know why it's all that controversial a topic.
     
  37. schmolioot

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    Blast Henning all you want, but that particular statement is eminently reasonable. He liked that Delhomme went for "the eagle" when it was intelligent to do so, even if he himself wouldn't play QB that way.
     
  38. finserg

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    Agree 100%
     
  39. mommabilly

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    Cemter is responsible for picking up LBers close and anyone else that is basically, at the second level. He is not responsible for DEs and who is to bock them. He is in charge of who is actually in front of the middle of the Oline and makes everyone aware there is person so and so here that is not usually there.

    Ryan almost always lines up more people then there are blockers for, this is how NE raped them badly. If you have a really good QB, you can toast the jets defense.
     
  40. Tone_E

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    So congratulations Henning, you blame Henne for that one protection. Now what about the other 673 questionable calls this year. Henne's fault too? Did he really audible to Wildcat on 3rd and 8? Damn that Henne guy.

    Listen, I'm not an advocate for or against Henne, but every QB makes mistakes, it happens. Secondly, things like this shouldn't be mentioned in public. You don't throw someone under the bus like that, you just don't. Keep it inside, the only place it matters.
     

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