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Any regerts on missing out on Randy Moss?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, with the signing of Kevin Curtis to replace the injured Brian Hartline is anyone still regretting or peeved that Randy Moss was not claimed off of Waivers a month ago or more?

    For me, not sure, Moss has done nothing with the Titans, Curtis missed basically 2 seasons, I do think Moss would have offered more of what we needed in terms of a vertical threat.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He may have helped or he may be done.

    The upsetting thing to me about not claiming Moss wasn't so much Moss per se, but rather what the whole episode merely confirmed about this regime's philosophy.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well this is hindsight, however recall also the uproar over Douglas and Grant being waived?

    Turns out, they were not missed, with Moss I am not so certain as Kevin Curtis will play this weekend so I'd have to think Moss would have as well, but in the interim between passing on Moss and signing Curtis, Brian Hartline strung together several strong games.
     
  4. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    When we passed on Moss, I really did not care all that much. It was reported that he did not want to come to Miami, and I was happy with Hartline, Bess, and Marshall.

    Now , in hindsight, I wonder if he may have made a difference making catch or two in the Browns game. That big "what if" could have made a huge change in our season. Oh well, we move on.
     
  5. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Moss is in Tennessee still giving up on plays. The guy isn't even trying. If we could motivate him, yeah. Otherwise, no.
     
  6. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I don't think Marshall is a prima donna but he could develop into one. As far as passing on moss I thought it was the right move and still think it is. Tennessee has lost every game since hes been on the team. Some help he was.
     
  7. rafael

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    I was critical of us passing on Moss assuming that Moss hadn't said he didn't want to come here. But with a bit of hindsight, I don't think it would have made much difference either way. IMO the primary issue with our offense is the coaching. Henne has been programmed to check down far too much so that he rarely takes advantage of the few opportunities he has to be more aggressive. Too many of those opportunities are poorly set up. And our offense is only designed to work with a very effective running game. I don't believe Henne is good enough to overcome those issues. I do believe that he may be good enough in an offense that was more suited to his skills, but I don't think that the addition of Moss would have accomplished that.
     
  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    All pretty much true, the other issue is sending Moss on an end around would have been a non starter, and I suspect he would not play in the Slot either as he knows he would face far more contact on the inside.

    So I'd guess for the Bills game:

    Marshall out at the Y
    Bess at the Z
    Curtis in the slot rotating with Moore and Wallace unless he really shows he has the offense internalized relatively rapidly.

    For goodness sakes, they were sending Hartline to block De's and Strong side OLB's, cannot imagine Moss even attempting such a thing.
     
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  9. vt_dolfan

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    What pisses me off about not signing Moss....is that in my opinion, it is a perfect caricature for the Sparano mind set of, lack of killer instinct. Sure he could have blown up, but so what, we could have just dropped him.

    Asides from that....

    I thought we also learned that it was Moss himself who didnt want to come to Miami?
     
  10. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

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    Let's see...New England is now 8-1 without him, the Vikings were 1-3 with him and Tennessee is still looking for their first win with the mighty Moss.

    Difference maker? I guess you can say that. :)
     
  11. Southbeach

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    R&R have once again disappointed. We keep looking for each to run for 1,000 yards, and it just ain't gonna happen. We put the blame on the OL, and that is a part of it. However, many other RB's are doing much better with less.

    Many are taking their shots at H&H, giving R&R a free ride. IF we ran, anywhere close to what was expected, we are a different team, with a different record. JMHO.
     
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  12. Auburn

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    Moss, bleh, giving up Welker was a sad mistake.
     
  13. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Or the mind set of not paying people to do jack **** for the team........
     
  14. rafael

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    I see our offense as so dysfunctional that none of the individual pieces are set up to succeed. We have an offense designed to run, but no running game. We use a play action to set up our deep passes, but have no running game. We use the two-TE formation as one of our most common formations but we haven't had a decent second TE all year. The best security blanket for a young QB is a running game and a receiving TE, but we don't have either of those. We have receivers that excel in short area and nobody to stretch the field. We have a QB that struggles against cover-2 and no TE to bust the seam. We have an OC that won't adjust despite all of the obvious limitations. Our OC can't work with our QB, our running game can't work with our passing game and our receivers and TEs don't compliment each other.
     
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  15. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Ireland has had enough to worry about waiting for Marshall to blow up in his face
     
  16. Auburn

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    We could have made a play for VJACK too. WR is not the problem here. Its the QB.
     
  17. Southbeach

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    Other than that, there is not much wrong. LOL A second TE, one that actually belongs in the NFL, even Joey, would make us better. Henning has not adapted for the lack of R&R disappointing as much as they have. I do not know of anyone who thought it would be close to this bad.

    Great coaches adapt to the players they have. See the pound the ball Shula when he got Dan the Man. It is much tuffer when you do not have the strength you counted on.

    To me, it is the lack of a running game which put us in this shape.

    On the positive side, our D has been Phantastic. Who woulda thunk it in pre-season?
     
  18. firedan

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    I think it is best to wonder what might have been with Moss instead of dealing with someone who might not want to be here and the things Tennesee is dealing with.
     
  19. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    yes it is.
    i would have liked moss personally but it's not a game of what if's.this season we had too many injuries and inconsistencies to be a truly competitive team. a moss signing would have been a waste, being chances were prob slim in having him back next year. we don't miss him in the verticle game because who knows if he would of shown up.
     
  20. DHPVW

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    uhh......no. Moss is a joke, dude has all but dried up. Proof is his less then stellar performances since his trades. Just glad we steered clear on the Moss trade. As much as it kills me to credit the Pats and Bellicheck, they saw that Moss was just about done. Played their cards right and got out like gang busters
     
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  21. Ohio Fanatic

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    DId you see any of the last Titans game? Moss barely saw the field all game.
     
  22. AdamC13

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    When Moss' heart is in it he is one of the best WR to ever play the game. When Moss' heart is not in it he is one of the worst WR to ever play the game. No reason to think Moss would have played with heart here in Miami. I know I wouldn't want him on the field for any Patriot games.
     
  23. NorFlaFin

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    With Pennington on the team I firmly believe Moss would play every snap to the echo of the whistle.
     
  24. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Nope.
     
  25. BB Ocho

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    When Moss was available Miami had a heathy Hartline and Marshall (plus the rooks and bess). I don't think you can or should go back and compare Curtis with Moss. The situations are totally different. Moss started talking in NE and got kicked, and he's still bouncing around and starting to talk in Tenn. He is a tumor.
     
  26. texanphinatic

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    That says it all to me. The Pats and the Eagles are two of the best teams at letting go of vets at the right time. When those two teams put someone out there, generally its for a reason.

    The fact that he got his coach fired in Minnesota and now the Titans have quit on Jeff Fischer with Moss barely seeing the field is all you need to know. The guy is a loser. His talent will rope you in, but its just the noose to hang yourself with. If Brady/Bellicheck, Favre and Jeff Fischer couldn't get him going, then what can? People proving the adage that sometimes talent>brains.
     
  27. jw3102

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    If by confirming this teams philosophy. You mean that the Dolphins have shown that they have no interest in players who only show up to play when they feel like it. I for one am happy with this team philosophy. When the best coach in the NFL. Bill Bellichick wanted to get rid of Moss. That clearly showed that Moss is nothing but a cancer on a team at this stage of his career. He lasted only a few weeks with the Vikings. The Titans have done nothing but play losing football since Moss joined the team. The fact that the Dolphins were wise enough to not go after Moss has proven to be an excellent decision by the organzation.
     
  28. NFL2102

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    Didn't Moss say he didn't want to play in Miami?

    Plus no one could anticipate the Marshall and Hartline injuries. But if I would have seen the injuries coming I would... still say no.
     

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