Cowher - Gruden - Sparano....who do you want?

The chin would be interesting. He spent 15 years in the NFL as a coach and only won 1 SB. If he wasn't in Pitt with that ownership, he would have gottenn fired earlier.

Chucky is an offensive guy which I think we need. Not sure about him.

Sparano is a nice guy, but he has about as much clue as the guy he replaced.

I would throw in Kubiak into this mix. I think he is a young guy with an offensive mind, but I think he goes to Denver. He and the owner are friends, and he would be good for Tebow.

Perhaps Jeff Fisher if the owner their wants to keep the QB instead.

 

I would go cowher, but Gruden intrigues me, not only because he is a good coach, but he has been actively studying and learning about new kinds of offenses and ways to bring such concepts to the NFL.

In short, Gruden seems like he really wants to get back into coaching whereas cowher may just be getting bored of his studio gig.

I've had enough of sparano but I suppose I could live with him if we get a new QB.

 

One thing is certain, if Gruden comes to town we will quickly amass 7 or 8 QBs.

 

We can forget about Cowher. With the Giants unraveling, looks like Coughlin's a goner. Cowher said G-Men are his first choice.

 

Initially I was against Gruden, but have slowly been warming up to the idea. Would you give him personnel decisions or would you keep a general manager in place? I am not specifically talking about Ireland, just wondering if you would retain that position instead of giving him that responsibility also. I am intrigued by your comment that Cowher may just be getting tired of his current position and hopefully whichever team ends up with him does not get shafted. I was a solid backer of Sparano, but lately have been getting tired of him approach to the team. His strength (OL) has been a weakness and he probably should have gotten rid of Henning along time ago. Bringing in Brandon Marshall in the off season to me means that you are willing to open up the offense some more. I am not sure whether they decided to continue the conservative approach because of a lack of faith in our current personnel or it is just their approach.

 

Cowher. But should Coughlin get fired and be more readily available than any of the above (not Sparano), I'd take him in a heartbeat.

 

Sparano- I like the guy,he shows emotion and passion but his clock management and sideline smarts are highly questionable.


Cowher- Good coach,fiery temper and great motivator. My only question is how much desire he still has. He won a SB, left the game,and thinking about a come back. Not sure this is a good mix. If we get him I will NOT be dissapointed, however.


Gruden- Another fiery type,great passion. Knows the game in and out. Offensive minded which we need. Also won a SB then left the game. (See Cowher). Sometimes a return to coaching works, sometimes it dont. ( Vermiel , Gibbs etc. ) .



Out of the three I`ll take Gruden. Would love to see him on the Dolphins sideline with his ultra intense look on his face.

 

As soon as I saw Jackson return that punt for a TD against the Giants with no time left I knew our chances for Cowher took a HUGE hit.

 

Either way Cowher or Gruden comes in then Henne Stays. I believe he has it but the coaching is not there. The system is not there. Cowher will instill smashmouth football which I love and take a lot of the pressure off QB and run the ball behind a nasty retooled Oline. Henne will rack up 150-200 yards a game and be scared for his life to make a mistake. We almost have the personnel Cowher would want. Just missing some O line.

Gruden may be exactly what Henne would need. West Coast style short high percentage passes occasional bomb. We also have the personnell for this maybe even more so. Henne would finally get the coaching, support, and system to be a succesful franchise QB.

Either way, if Henne truely does not possess the talent most say he doesnt, then either coach could see it right off and make a change quickly probably during camp.

 

Gruden or Jim Harbaugh.

With both, they give you a coaching advantage from an X's and O's viewpoint

 

Its simple. If you want to give Henne another year then you should want Gruden the QB guru who would have no problem telling the timid Henne to let loose, I would perfer this option only because he would be the most likely to keep Nolan and basically have little involvment with our defense.

Cowher is the passionate coach we need, he wont stand for some of the lackadasical BS we see on some Sundays he is very ideal, but I wouldnt take him at Nolans expense, if they could work together I think they could do some great things defensively, but then I would wonder who would be our OC.

Sparano, sorry bro but there are too many question marks ecspecially when Mike Smith and John Harbaugh will be strong in the playoffs, and in life sometimes nice guys finish last. GL with your OL positional job wherever it may be.

 

What about Marty Schottenheimer? I've alway thought he was a good coach and i think he was interested in returning last year.

 

Chris Mortensen just said that Dan Henning would be retiring at the end of the season, so Sparano may NOT be an automatic out.

I wonder...could we get John Gruden as our OC and HC in waiting...and maybe even Marvin Lewis as our DC after he's fired from Cincinnati?

 

No way would Chuckie take a back seat to Sparano, and also if we hire Marvin Lewis to replace Mike Nolan I will become a Jets fan.

 

There's a couple reasons I have reservations about Gruden. Turning to the cover 2 defense. I want to stay a base 3-4. Would Gruden want control? Because that's what did him in with the Bucs, he's an absolute awful talent evaluater. Just awful.

 

Of the two I would want Gruden because I feel Miami already has Bill Cowher. Gruden might really help the offense. Even when the Steelers were winning they had a boring offense. They only time they were really exciting was when they had Kordell Stewart.

However Nappy has a good point as Gruden might dismantle the defense to fit his scheme.

 

My choice is Gruden, for the many reasons already stated. I think he's be the best option to coach Henne up and put him in a situation to succeed. And I think the guy is smart enough to understand that he has a good thing with Mike Nolan's defense and leave it well enough alone.

 

I am now firmly on the Gruden-for-head-coach bandwagon. I think he is exactly what this team - specifically the putrid offense - needs.

As far as being concerned about switch to a Tampa 2 style defense, I'm not sure there is any guarantee he would do that. He may be more inclined to keep Nolan as DC so he work exclusively with Henne and the offensive.

 

I'd rather have, let's say 5-6 QBs in camp til we find "the guy" instead of carrying five running backs through an entire season Williams, Brown, Cobbs, Hilliard, Polite... and we wonder why we have a less than dynamic offense. Hell, none of those guys runs a 4.4 with a million bucks in the back of an open Brinks truck in front of them.

 

Gruden wouldn't screw with the defense. He's an offensive guy. In Tampa, he consistently left the defense alone and kept Tony Dungy's defensive coordinator in place. The only problem is, he also didn't draft for defense much.

 

I'd rather have, let's say 5-6 QBs in camp til we find "the guy" instead of carrying five running backs through an entire season Williams, Brown, Cobbs, Hilliard, Polite... and we wonder why we have a less than dynamic offense. Hell, none of those guys runs a 4.4 with a million bucks in the back of an open Brinks truck in front of them.

 

And I'd rather have a guy who fist-pumps offensive EXPLOSIONS like 4 TD victories through innovative offensive schemes than a dude pumping his fist for a field goal when 7 points were left on the table without a real effort at it.

That said, I am not against keeping TOny if we get a new OC and add some QB competition. QUALITY QB competition.

 

I don't want Gruden

 

Why not ? Just curious.

 

I too like Coughlin. We'd have a running game as soon as they hired him.

Gruden worries me because of the personel moves the Bucs made when he was there. Wasn't he GM, or am I mistaken?

 

Hire Cowher and burn it all down. He would bring in his own guys and give this org a shot in the *** it needs at this time. Gruden thinks every player he sees is a nice player. Screw that philosophy.
Sparano is an idiot don't let the door hit you in the ***. As far as Cowher going to the Giants they won't attempt to match the pile of cash Ross is going to throw on the table. Our owner wants a big huge name and Cowher could be the name that reconnects this team with it's fans. Remember part of this business is asses in the seats and what better name to heal the wounds than Bill Cowher. Even if once again it turns out to be a high paid band aid.

 

I dont see that happening at all.

 

Well, I don't see Chuckie taking a backseat to Sparano either...but it would be nice to have an offensive genius breathing down Sparano's neck to get his act together.

Now I don't know why you'd become a Jest fan if we hired Marvin Lewis over Mike Nolan. Remember the Super Bowl Champion Baltimore Ravens and that dominating defense? I'd take Marvin Lewis over Mike Nolan ANY day of the week.

Remember, Buddy Ryan SUCKED as a head coach, but as a defensive coordinator, he was AWESOME. Same with Marvin Lewis.

 

None of the above....

For me it is Jim Harbaugh or bust.

 

From PFT

49er's could hire a GM to match the coach. Prime candidates.......Gruden and Harbaugh

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

 

We need a steady QB (whom I think could still be Henne) and Gruden likes to have 4, 5 QB's on the team and seems not to stick with one. He also really won with Tony Dungy's team. His last three years in Tampa are worse than Sparano's record.

 

Two good candidates.

SF really needs a big time coach strictly for relevancy purposes and it shouldn't be al that difficult to contend next year in that division with competent QB play.

 

Just know his defenses have barely sniffed the top-10 in pts or yds since he left the Ravens.

 

have they hired their new GM? if not how does the media know who he would want?

 

The GM could turn out to be a puppet. The report states York is calling the shots and Harbaugh and Gruden are apparently the top candidates.

It is in the article you didn't read and of course it is all speculation.

 

for those that continue to state that Gruden won the SB with Dungy's people already in place...you do know that the team Tampa played in the SB that year was the team Gruden controlled and had put those people in place prior to taking the Tampa job? Gruden may have won with Dungy's players but to say that he did not do anything worthy of SB talent is highly undersighted since the Raiders that he built were the ones to face the Bucs that year

 

Well no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two teams so let's just stick with Sparano despite the fact that the team is getting worse under him. Or maybe we can find another former head coach to be our offensive coordinator to go with Mike Nolan on defense. That way the only thing Sparano really has to worry about is fist pumping field goals and making sure Ricky and Ronnie don't get enough carries to get any momentum going.