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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin Fan In Cali, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    Cowher and Nolan can co-exist same defensive scheme, Cowher had Lebeau a defensive BRAIN as his DC and i would say that worked out fine.
     
  2. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    So you want another college coach who has zero NFL experience to save a DC who might leave and take a job somewhere else sometime soon anyway. Harbaugh would be a great hire because it keeps Nolan safe?
    That make no sense to me at all.....
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

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    Harbaugh is a success....he has the it factor, and being a HC I'm college qualifies u more than an OL coach on the NFL.
     
  4. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    He might be the next Don shula and thats great and all but why go out and buy a raw steak when you got your choice of grilled porterhouses just waiting on you? (I'm hungry for steak now) IE. Cowher and Gruden both said they would consider it, if it were offered.
     
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  5. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i am on the fence to be truthful i do like sparano, but the way the team just quit yesterday was unacceptable, the phins were getting the **** kicked out of them by the backups, there was no effort from the oline to the defense, to me the team didnt respond to the HC at all and if that happens it is time to change
     
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  6. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Did you look at the sideline. Sparano himself didn't have any fire to him.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Not to make excuses for the offensive line, however half played injured and the other were second or third stringers.
     
  8. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    What is the IT factor? He hasn't done IT in the NFL so how would you begin to know if he would translate as a good NFL head coach. We have been through all of this before man. Nick Saban supposedly had the IT factor and that turned into a disaster. I want a proven NFL coach or at least one with NFL experience otherwise it is just a learning experience for another head coach. It makes no sense with the names out there that they would do this. We continue to be a laughing stock if we make this move to Harbaugh.
     
  9. MikeHoncho

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    I'd take an invalid deaf-mute guy who is blind and knows nothing of football over Singletary. Just because you were the greatest player ever to play the linebacker position doesn't mean you'll be a great coach (or even a competent one).
     
  10. Ducken

    Ducken Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    Ok fair enough, But what if he ends up being the whole darn ranch full of cattle, and not just the grilled porterhouse? Not saying he will, but lets look at your 2 choices. It was reported Cowher wants major changes(and I agree to a certain extent) and will more then likely want full control. That has not worked very well with the vast majority of coaches that had most to full control. And I question his fire/desire he has been out for a few years, and I understand the whole perfect job thing, but you would also think there have been a few oppertunities that he would go after to...........for lack of a better word prove himself all over again. And my big concern with Gruden is how Tampa regressed under him, That in of itself scares me. Just food for thought.
     
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  11. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    yeah he looked like he was just going through the motions
     
  12. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    You would hand over the reigns to an unproven college coach before you would give full control to Cowher. That is crazy talk bro and you will regret every minute of it if it goes down that way. This organization does things the buddy system way which is ridiculous so I could see them do just that. :lol: As disgusting and wrong as it is.
    We are fugged again so it seems.
     
  13. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    There are three tidbits/rumors, all relevant to the Fins, going around today:

    1. Cowher is not interested in the job if Ireland stays.
    2. Gruden is interested in the Cleveland job because of Colt McCoy
    3. Ireland was at Stanford's practice for the Orange Bowl
     
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  14. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    I know, its a bad sign that he was allowed to do that presser. I guess Ross just doesn't care anymore.....
     
  15. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Or another retread like Fox or Singletary. Meanwhile Bill Belichek just smiles and goes right on preparing for the playoffs.
     
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  16. Archon

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    Ok call me stupid, but I cannot seem to find the press conference link anywhere. I tried going to the Miami Dolphins Official Website and could not find it there. I have also tried googling the link.

    Any help? =)
     
  17. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    I would think a good opportunity to judge Harbaugh is tonight in the Orange Bowl. I think a lot of interested NFL fans may tune into this one for that reason.
     
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  18. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    exactly what I was hoping to happen,
    don't throw the baby out with the bath water:

    Ireland in/Sparano out
     
  19. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Harbaugh, Gruden, Cowher, Fisher, whoever... do it as soon as possible
     
  20. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    You would watch Harbaugh to get a feel for him. To judge him based on one game would be pretty short-sighted, no matter what the outcome.
     
  21. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Hm, i dont care how good he is, i dont want another college coach. It just doesnt work. For every minor success story theres ten failures.

    Im not too thrilled with anybody other than Cowher and hes not going to come unless he gets full control, yet another idea i hate.

    Id rather sparano than the alternatives right now.
     
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  22. Pariah

    Pariah Revolutionary

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    Be careful what you ask for...

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  23. DHPVW

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    I think Gruden would be a great coach with all the young players we have. Bring lots of fire and passion to our team. If he could bring in a good OC I think we could be on the right track to success
     
  24. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Its one of the reasons that Marino never coached. The position and all the associated other things that go along with being a great ELITE QB came natural to Marino. He wouldn't be able to stand being boss to people that couldn't do what just seemed natural to him. Its not that he didn't work hard, he did, but he could have been better than 90% of the other NFL QBs without hardly trying.

    It seems to me that guys that have to really work hard, to just be average players always seem to make the best coaches. They have to learn all those intangibles that help a player really understand and play his position to the best of his ability.
     
  25. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I bet he's fired & with him most the offensive cadre
     
  26. Fin-Omenal

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    Nick Saban is a good football coach and if he could have stuck arounf wouldve had this team in the right direction, Nick Saban wanted Drew Brees...his incompetant team doctors and GM swore he was damaged goods.

    Saban was far from a disaster just more of a quitter.
     
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  27. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Can someone tell me why Tampa regressed every year after Gruden was there? What was the problem Gruden, the Front Office and or the ownership?
     
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  28. Finfangirl

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    Doesnt Matter Harbaugh isnt coming here....and why would he? He doesnt want to move his family and if he does he's going to michigan, he has been coveting that job for yrs!
     
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  29. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Well this won't be the 1st game I have seen him coach. I think his beating USC a few years ago caught my eye and I have been impressed with him since then. My best friend is a Cal graduate, and he and I have watched THE GAME (Cal vs Stanford) for the last 4 or 5 years together. As my friend George calls Stanford "The Spawn of Satan" have had Harbaugh as their coach George has wished he would go away (since he watches not much other than Pac 10 ball).

    I like his approach to the game, and its very Jimmy Johnsonesque. He runs a professional set up there and his kids are NFL ready, and if they have the talent they are ready to contribute early (ala Toby Gebhart).
     
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  30. DolfanJake

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    He's not interested if you believe the reports. He is interested in Cleveland because of McCoy, and we have no QB. Makes sense if you have followed what a lot of people here on the board have said. He has an affinity for the QB spot and McCoy is a decent prospect.
     
  31. padre31

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    Gruden inherited a veteran team from Tony Dungy, they got older and were not effectively replaced as Gruden was a terrible GM.
     
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  32. padre31

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    Saban was a terrible head coach and even worse GM.
     
  33. DolfanJake

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    Yeah I am afraid Ross & Ireland are flirting with him, and it will cost us, just like the Carroll flirtation cost us, and we ended up with Cam Cameron. UGH !

    Those that don't learn from the past, are condemned to repeat it !
     
  34. Auburn

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    Mangini is available...LOL
     
  35. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    That depends on who you talk to. I think Gruden's style of football depends on veterans who know the system, which meant he flourished with the Bucs when he got there because they already had a team full of veterans. Once those vets started leaving via FA, the ownership was too cheap to attract new FA vets, so things went downhill. Gruden is NOT good at building rookie talent through the draft.
     
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  36. VManis

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    Then to what would you attribute his success in Oakland? That team wasn't exactly stacked with veteran talent and he took them from a cellar dweller to to the AFC title game.
     
  37. Fin-Omenal

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    Disagree, he drafted player to fit HIS scheme.....Travis Daniels being a fine example who played pretty well as a rookie in Nicks scheme. Post Saban he was very very bad.

    Now Jason Allen?? Cant tell you he was worth a damn, Saban let his SEC biast get the best of him there.

    Crowder has stuck around, Vickerson has become a reliable starter in Tennessee, Ronnie was the right choice, Matt Roth has been up and down, Devin Aromashodu was another late round pick by Saban that panned out elsewhere.

    He had Gus Ferrote and a project and I feel was building a winner.....he just didnt like the NFL and snuck out the back door. But that doesnt make him a bad coach.
     
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  38. padre31

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    He went 6-10 and his drafts were terrible.

    If one then says ah-hah! Sparano went 7-9 two yrs in a row, keep in mind this yrs squad was 4 yrs younger on average than the mess Saban left he simply tried to tweak the roster and rely on his coaching, Sparano to his credit has taken on the task of actually rebuilding the Dolphins.
     
  39. Fin-Omenal

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    I disagree...Nick was in the middle of implamenting HIS system, and he drafted accordingly....granted it was more of a defensive makeover he was trying to establish.

    Fact is Saban was a doctors decision away from acquiring Drew Brees....and if he wouldve who knows what we would have won by now.
     
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    Shoulda coulda woulda, lil nicky was just not that good of a HC in any meaningful sense of the term, he took a Vet team, tried his methods, they failed, then scurried off to Alabama.
     

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