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Shefter: Decision likely coming tomorrow (according to Sid Rosenberg)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by vt_dolfan, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    According to Casas9425 over on finheaven,

    Adam Shefter just texted to Sid Rosenberg that Ross is currently meeting with Sparano, will attend the Orange Bowl tonight, and sleep on his decision.

    I guess this is what Sid Rosenberg said...so...who knows...
     
  2. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    He needs to "sleep on it?"

    An entire season watching this assclown and his rodeo bull-fluffer Henning ruin the season isn't enough?
     
  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I think he stays... just seems to be the theme around the league with Coughlin, Kubiak, Del Rio....
     
  4. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    IMO (and it is just that) Tony is gone. If he was going to keep him he would just come out and say it. BTW, maybe Ross is just buying time until he hears back from his feelers with regards to the guy he wants to coach the Fins?
     
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  5. gandalfin

    gandalfin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm hoping (with very little optimism) that he's waiting until the Orange Bowl is over so he can announce the hiring of Jim Harbaugh.
     
  6. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
     
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  7. ascii

    ascii People Watcher

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  8. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    that is not going to happen because the Fins would have to interview at least one black candidate before they could hire anyone. However, maybe he is waiting until after the orange bowl to get a handshake deal in place with Harbaugh before cutting Tony loose.
     
  9. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    It's bigger than that for him.

    Henning is already gone. But he's got a lot of things to weigh than just firing these guys. He's got to consider what they've told him, their plan for the future, financial ramifications, who stays, who goes, who wants out, etc. I'm under the assumption (my own, no one else's) that he's got his people working on a lot of things regarding this situation (who's available, who he's made contact with, etc.). I can't imagine he'll make a move without reasonable assurance from one or more candidates that they're highly interested.

    He's less knowledgeable about the game than a lot of us here. So this will be doubly hard for him.
     
  10. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    great minds! lol
     
  11. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Will be the coup of the century if he gets Harbaugh.

    We're not even on that guy's radar unfortunately.
     
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  12. ToddsPhins

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    Gruden please. He'd come in with an awesome D and great DC, and this team could feed off his energy level. Bringing an offensive mind in would complement Nolan's attacking defense IMO. We need to put our d in a position to where they CAN attack more often, which requires our offense to put up points earlier, quicker, and with a greater threat of doing so throughout the game. Wake couldve had 20 sacks this year if this had happened.
     
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  13. Fin-Omenal

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    I'm all for this Todd, but some insist Chuckie can't co exist with Nolan.
     
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  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, I'm glad Ross is being deliberate over this decision.
     
  15. Stringer Bell

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    Great offensive mind, paired with great defensive mind. We've never tried that before...
     
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  16. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Pretty much sums up what I was thinking. Ross is a businessman, and while he doesn't have a ton of NFL acumen, he's not an idiot. Throwing Sparano to the wolves right now without a solid backup plan is probably the worst thing he can do for this franchise. Better to let Sparano, at worst, have us floundering in mediocrity for another year, than risk firing him without having someone better than him interested.

    Sparano got us to an 11-5 season, he's not a great HC, but he's not freaking Cam Cameron guys. The guy has passion, loves the organization, and has shown he's trying to fix his flaws. The big issues have been offense, and the OC is already gone.

    Anyone who thinks firing Sparano and hiring joe blow off the street will fix our ills is just being knee jerk from the Patriots loss.
     
  17. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    not to be a smart a$$ but I am pretty sure you (I should say we) have no idea what is on Jim's radar.
     
  18. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    not a fan of Gruden.. at all...
     
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  19. padre31

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    2007, if Ross is going to make a move he should not make a halfway one.

    I could see Sparano being fired and Ireland put in charge of finding a new HC, I could see Ross letting Sparano and Ireland finish out their contracts then deciding, which imho is what he should do.
     
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  20. muscle979

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    I don't know.. I'm sure Cam would have won more games if he would have had Chad Pennington and Tom Brady would have missed the season.
     
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  21. ToddsPhins

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    IMO our current, boring, conservative offensive philosophy has prevented our defense from being able to smack offenses in the mouth like I feel we're capable of.
     
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  22. Stringer Bell

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    Exactly, if we should keep anything in mind, its that having an offensive and defensive mind paired together doesnt make a good football team.

    What you need is a good head coach, and I'm not sure Gruden is that. I'm on board with replacing Sparano with certain guys, but I couldn't support replacing Sparano with Gruden. The guy seems like a glorified OC, not a head coach.
     
  23. jorser

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    We don't really know that we aren't on his radar. Anything we hear these days is as much speculation, as it is substance. Any scenario being kicked around by all of us could still play out. I have to think that the Ireland/Harbaugh/Ross/Michigan strings may indeed give us some benefit that others don't have, and therefore the hope that we may in fact land Harbaugh. He's the guy I want, and my dream scenario, albeit highly unlikely, would be to land Harbaugh, have him convince Luck to enter the draft, which is questionable at this point, and somehow trade the world to get in position to take him. Then have coach and QB together again at the pro level. I can dream can't I?

    Edit: Let me add, that after countless failed regimes and over 15 starting QB's, it is time for THE BOLDEST POSSIBLE MOVE TO LAND THE RIGHT GUY. So here's to hoping Ross see's the same things we do and does whatever it takes to make the bold, brash, and well thought out steps to get this team over the hump at the QB position. A QB friendly coach, is a start in the right direction.
     
  24. ToddsPhins

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    So what you're saying is he should hire us at ThePhins to become his personal consultant? If that means club member fees disappear, then count me in. :shifty:
     
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  25. padre31

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    Gruden worked well with Monte Kiffen whom he inherited, and tbh if there is a coaching change I'd expect Nolan to walk anyway.

    Wonder if Ross approaches Harbaugh personally at the OB and offers him a blank check? JH turns Ross down, Sparano is announced as returning?
     
  26. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    This. Judging from Wyche's comments, I think Ross and Ireland are concerned about dumping Sparano before they are reasonably confident they can find an adequate replacement. All of the Harbaugh rumors have suggested that he wants Michigan or else he would like to stay in his current location and take the San Fran job. The Cowher rumors suggest he's not interested if Ireland stays. And there are rumors that Gruden may want the Cleveland gig with his ties to Holmgrem and love of Colt McCoy.

    Given all this, I think it makes sense to take some time before making a decision. What I find interesting is the whole Orange Bowl thing and the fact that Ireland was at Stanford's practice. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a lot of wooing of Jim Harbaugh going on in Miami over the last few days and heading into tomorrow.

    Then, there's also the Jeff Fisher situation, which we are probably monitoring closely.
     
  27. padre31

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    Burns me a bit as well, add in I'm a ST junkie and we were terrible to average on ST and this yr was really unsatisfying.
     
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  28. ToddsPhins

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    Why not? Didn't he already win a SB with 1 great D when it was in its prime? I'm not sure why he couldn't co-exist. If anything, Id have to believe that chuckie's influence would probably help Nolan open up his playbook and get more creative.
     
  29. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I have my concerns about Gruden.

    Things got progressively worse behind the scenes in Tampa. There were coaches and players who left and vowed publicly never to come back. And they had trouble attracting free agents as time passed because players talk. He just rubbed people raw.

    And despite his reputation, his offenses in Tampa weren't that good. Nothing like the juggernauts he ran in Oakland with Rich Gannon. Never better than 18th in points scored in Tampa. They weren't that great in yards either. Guys like Jeff Garcia complained publicly about the offense being unnecessarily complex and it didn't take enough shots down the field. They also complained -- anonymously -- that Gruden would 'highlight' certain guys on gameday at the expense of others.

    And Gruden never had success with a young quarterback. Just didn't deal with them. It was always a veteran. Old veterans. Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Brian Griese, Jeff Garcia, traded for Jake Plummer despite retirement. He couldn't do anything with Bruce Gradkowski, whose turned out to be a pretty decent player in Oakland. The way he treated Chris Simms after Simms almost died and lost his spleen in that 2006 game, Simms says he'll never forgive Gruden for it.

    I love the guy on TV. But it didn't end very well in Tampa.

    OT: For those that worry about his personnel decisions, that wasn't his deal. Bruce Allen was the GM in Tampa. He had final say over the roster, not Gruden.

    One plus for Gruden is that, indeed, he's going to leave a good defense alone. He's totally offense.
     
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  30. byroan

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    I could handle a staff of Harbaugh, Nolan and Ireland.
     
  31. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    There isn't any doubt in my mind that Ross has a plan. What that plan is anyone's guess at this point. He knows all the reasons to dump Sparano and all the reasons to keep him as well. But a man as successful as Ross has been in the business world doesn't sleep on it for one night and make a decision if he doesn't have both a plan for keeping the current regime and a plan to replace the current regime. The one thing that is bad for Tony right now is the availability of guys like Cowher, Gruden and Harbaugh... However, the good thing for this regime is the current state of the CBA negotiations and the poor economy (making it less likely that he'll make a move given the [give or take] $12M dollars he'll have to pay out for this current regime, on top of the new regimes' money....)
     
  32. DolfanJake

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    Nabo don't you want another season of Fist Pump Field Goals ? :lol:
     
  33. Conuficus

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    But, just remember that Gruden has not truly developed a young quarterback in his tenure. He played musical quarterbacks between Gradkowski, Simms etc.
     
  34. DolfanJake

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    ^^^^ Nail hits the head
     
  35. Larryfinfan

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    Naturally, you're back to the "is Luck the right guy thing. " There have been scores of QBs that appeared to be all world that have not made it in the NFL. I'm not hung up on Luck or Newton or whoever, as long as it is the "right guy" you're speaking of...
     
  36. jorser

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    I concur. I'm not in love with any one guy, what do I know. Just want this nonsense to end. We have had nothing long term since Shula and Marino. We have become a joke of a franchise, not just by our performances on the field over the last decade and a half, but by the fact that every other year, key components of our organization fail us and are tossed out on the alumni scrap heap, only to start the process over again..and again..and again.

    And to add BTW, not much is being mentioned about Harbaugh being the youngest and freshest of these so called candidates, which is a HUGE plus IMO. God forbid if he works out and sticks around for 10-15 years. Wouldn't it be nice to have some stability again? Man I hope Ross knows what he is doing on this one.
     
  37. DolfanJake

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    Unless he is the new HC. That is possible, very possible.
     
  38. RevRick

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    Yes, we did. Cameron and Capers. Unfortunately, neither of them were in their right mind.
     
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  39. padre31

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    Well, you can have all of the head coaching talk you want DJ..a Elite ST coordinator was fired today, Steve Crosby, he had a down yr in 2010 but the dude's units are always top 10 and usually top 5, he is my sole "must get" this offseason.
     
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  40. DolfanJake

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    But because Sparano is in flux, we can't get this guy. Just the Dolphins luck.
     

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