1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Ross headed to SF, will offer mega deal to Harbaugh [lots of updates in thread]

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rocky Raccoon, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

    7,975
    1,869
    113
    Sep 27, 2009
    Roanoke, Virginia
    Harbaugh started 140 of 177 games at the NFL, making the playoffs quite a few times, making a pro bowl and getting inducted into the Colts Ring of Honor, playing in the NFL as recently as 2001. Saban never played in the NFL. His first coaching gig after retirement was in the NFL as the Raiders QB coach in 2002-2003 where he won a SB coaching Rich Gannon to the best season of his career. He's been coaching in college for 6 years, with arguably the best pro style offense in college football, while developing the best NFL QB prospect to come out in a long time. Nick Saban spent 28 years in the college ranks before becoming an NFL HC, though he did spend 4-5 years in between as an NFL assistant.

    The big difference between Harbaugh and all of the college coaches who failed, aside from the fact very few of them played in the NFL, and most spent 20+ years in college before going pro, is what makes them a great coach. All those coaches, while very good coaches, had top 5-10 recruiting classes every year, Harbaugh hasn't had that in Stanford. Stanford only had one top 50 recruiting class from 2004-2007 for Harbaugh to work with when he got there, and that class was ranked 41st in the country in 2005. They had the 50th ranked recruiting class in 2008, then the 15th in 2009, then the 26th in 2010. Stanford's success has been because Harbaugh is such a great coach.

    I just can't stand when people have to use the careers of others who have nothing in common with Harbaugh to try and make their case for why he might fail at the NFL level.
     
    djphinfan, DolfanJake, fin13 and 2 others like this.
  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    lol. do we give back the 5th rounder
     
    Paul 13 and ToddsPhins like this.
  3. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

    29,125
    7,721
    0
    Mar 15, 2009
    I thought we were keeping that a secret.
     
    Paul 13 and Ricky'sBong like this.
  4. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,224
    36,965
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    LOL at that one guy who said the 49ers have a better team. We had a better record playing in the much tougher conference, and them playing in a division where the champion was 7-9.
     
  5. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    good point. if this deal falls through and ross cant find anyone else Sparano should definitely stick around and play out the final year. If he gets the Dolphins into the playoffs next year he could demand northwards of 5 million or he walks
     
  6. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    which team has a better qb? stumper
     
  7. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC

    demand 5 million a year for getting the Phins into the playoffs in year 4 of this rebuild? shouldnt playoffs be a given at that point?
     
    DolfanJake and ToddsPhins like this.
  8. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

    29,125
    7,721
    0
    Mar 15, 2009
    Which team's QB was a 4 year starter at Michigan?
     
  9. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    if ross is offering 7 mill or 8 mill for an unproven commodity he just signed his death warrant in any future negotiations with any head coach candidate. noone is going to acccept less. ross is now an easy mark, a desperate mark, a sucker. you realize belichik only makes about 7.5 per yr?
     
    DolfanJake likes this.
  10. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    the one with the robot?
     
    ToddsPhins likes this.
  11. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC

    i realize Tony Sparano is dead to me. thats all i realize at this point. its his money, and doesnt count vs the cap. who cares?
     
  12. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    this just in, Ross will consider moving the team closer to Harbaugh's home (Los Angeles) if necessary.

    :tongue2:
     
    Ricky'sBong and ToddsPhins like this.
  13. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    lol
     
  14. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

    14,523
    22,246
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Which team's won the Heisman trophy throwing to Ted Ginn?
     
  15. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    not sure whether to laugh or cry...
     
  16. Furlo

    Furlo New Member

    2
    1
    0
    Jan 6, 2011
    Still sucks that we had to use a 1st rounder to get Ginn and they only had to use a 5th...
     
    DolfanJake likes this.
  17. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    ahem...WHO said they would go as high as 7 million? Pretty sure I scooped Tim on that one. :wink:
     
    adamprez2003 likes this.
  18. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

    14,523
    22,246
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Clearly I haven't followed the entire thread. Too busy making smartass remarks on Twitter. :lol:
     
    Samphin likes this.
  19. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    yeah, Ethan isn't stopping tonight...
     
  20. NinerTico

    NinerTico New Member

    6
    5
    0
    Jan 6, 2011
    Hello, I'm from "that" 49erswebzone and wanted to chime in. I hope I will be welcomed and all 7-9 NFC West Champions jokes aside, we sucked so there. Let's get that out of the way shall we. I completely agree with your point. Is this the new standard Ross is setting? Even Peter King, Mr. NFL Football, said it was "insane". Still, I am sure Harbaugh will allow Jed York to counter. At that time, he has to make a decision whether shelling out 2mil more a year is worth it. I am telling you right now, our fans are ravenous for a "name" who can bring back the identity of the WCO and he's it especially since he's tied so closely to our great Bill Walsh, RIP. He would be able to make that in droves in new ticket sales, marketing, etc. His name is worth 2 mil a year more. Too bad that the bar is set soooooo high because ultimately, Ross has deeper pockets I think.

    What do you guys think? And thanks for the opportunity to engage in a civil discourse.
     
  21. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    1,695
    1,237
    113
    May 29, 2009
    Waterloo
    You should take pen and paper and write 3 billion with all the zeros then you'll have a feeling on what real wealth is.
    Ross is a brilliant business mind and he knows only the best hire for the team will do.
    As far as getting Dade money hey it's standard procedure.
     
  22. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

    29,125
    7,721
    0
    Mar 15, 2009
    I like my answer better.
     
  23. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

    7,975
    1,869
    113
    Sep 27, 2009
    Roanoke, Virginia
    Yea I've been reading this thread for a good while: http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=65251&page=449

    49ers fans don't seem to be the smartest bunch out there. Especially if they think going 6-10 in a division where the the division leader had a losing record makes them more talented than a team that went 7-9 in arguably the best division out there.
     
  24. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

    29,125
    7,721
    0
    Mar 15, 2009
    Welcome aboard NT.
     
  25. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,224
    36,965
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    WTF is up with Skolnick and all these Heat are holier than Dolphins tweets. They are really annoying.
     
    Paul 13 likes this.
  26. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Agreed. Can you all stop with the gay jokes? Especially since Miami is pretty much known for its fanny banditism as well?

    Me too, two of them are posting in this very thread. So perhaps everyone should chill a little bit.
     
    DolfanJake, Finfangirl and Pandarilla like this.
  27. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    honestly, talent wise i like their team, qb aside.
     
  28. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    im very chilled
     
  29. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    He’s absolutely correct. The Heat have had their act together for 16 years. The Dolphins? Not so much.
     
    DolfanJake likes this.
  30. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Welcome to the site, hope you stick around after this whole thing blows over.
     
    DolfanJake likes this.
  31. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    he's bitter.... he's not covering the Dolphins anymore... he sees the mayhem we bring. he misses it... don't care who the Heat have playing for them....
     
  32. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC

    the Heat are 2 superstars, one allstar and a collection of garbage. you cant build a football team that way.
     
  33. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,224
    36,965
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    Well, good for the Heat, but I'm trying to get the latest Dolphins news with this Harbaugh chase, not to see him praise the Heat and bash the Dolphins in every tweet.
     
    ToddsPhins likes this.
  34. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Welcome. I totally agree with you on the Niner fans needing a name. Every sports show out there from Murph and Mac to Gary Radnich can't shut up about it. If the Niners somehow fumble this...I honestly don't know what Jed York is going to do.
     
  35. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    and charles wang was a brilliant business mind and the new york islanders have sucked since he bought them. in fact every team is owned by a brilliant business mind because last i checked you cant buy a team with food stamps
     
    DolfanJake likes this.
  36. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,224
    36,965
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    Wait, since when does he not cover the Dolphins anymore? That's the only reason I followed him.
     
  37. Ricky'sBong

    Ricky'sBong Reborn

    699
    158
    0
    Jan 5, 2011
    Vancouver, BC

    you dont like the 15 year contract he gave dipietro?
     
    adamprez2003 likes this.
  38. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    since you live in the area, are you going to follow the dolphin brass once they land?
     
  39. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    not sure of the exact date but it was before the 2010 Dolphin season started.
     
  40. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

    37,392
    14,745
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    new york ciity
    lol. the defense rests
     

Share This Page