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Miami Interviews Brian Daboll

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jpep13, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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  2. MikeHoncho

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    Well, thank goodness the Browns' season is over, or this would have been a real trial of patience...
     
  3. Stitches

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    I'd be ok with him as QB coach. Wouldn't be my top choice, but I like his energy.
     
  4. MarinePhinFan

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    Daboll already knows the AFC East division well, having been a coach in New England from 2000-2006 and with the New York Jets from 2007-2008.


    The guy was with Belicheat for 6 years and during all 3 Super Bowl wins. He was a defensive assistant and a WR's coach in New England. I think it's an EXTREMELY smart move to at least interview candidates with AFCE experience and more specifically someone who has worked with Belicheat. Hell, if Belicheat kept him around for 6 years he's got to have something going for him. He also coached at William & Mary and Michigan State.

    These knee-jerk reactions without any sort of research about these coaching candidates is getting really old and the search has just began.
     
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  5. Fin-Omenal

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    With the Mangini talks and now this its obvious Miami wants to bring in people familiar with the division and specificly NE....

    As a qb coach fine, but as an OC? God no.
     
  6. flynryan151

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    Oh this isn't a knee jerk Marine like I told you I am based in Cleveland and get the Clowns shoved down my throat! If this rant makes no sense sorry I haven't slept in 3 days since I Herniated L3,4,5. Anyway Daboll sucks he is to Cleveland fans what Henning is to us. You turn on the news or the radio all year and it is Daboll has togo! His offense is so conservative it makes Henning look like the run and gun. If this is Sparanos commitment to more explosivenesshe wont make week 8. Most fans up here would've kept Mangini and fired Daboll.
     
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  7. Hellion

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    Interesting that Clevland ran a version of the wildcat. I certainly hope the WC isn't a requirement for the job.
     
  8. flynryan151

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    Yep Cleveland was the first team to copy us.
     
  9. MarinePhinFan

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    I understand that Clevelands offense sucked this season, but don't ya' think that Daboll has at least some info on how Belicheat runs his offense?

    Sorry to hear about your back. Hope you're up and running soon.
     
  10. adamprez2003

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    can we have an press conference tomorrow and ask Henning back? Garrett, Daboll? My God those are horrible. And Palmer for OC isnt much better. The only name so far that is even half way competant IMO is Chudzinski and the odds are he will be a step down. Chud at least has a chance to be as good or better than Henning. The rest are all but guaranteed to be worse in different ways
     
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  11. flynryan151

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    I don't know it seems since Daboll left the Patriots have really changed their offensive philosophy and I think what the Patriots ran and what Daboll ran at Cleveland are polar opposites.

    Thanks I jacked my back up pretty good sucks because it happened in Cleveland, I just got discharged and have to get home to TPA.
     
  12. MarinePhinFan

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    When Daboll left the Pats got Moss. Moss changes philosophies. However, if you look at their offense this season compared to their Super Bowl winning seasons you will see they are very similar.

    Good luck getting back to TPA...
     
  13. VanDolPhan

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    You can stop panicking. He's interviewing for the QB coach spot which he did in NE and I believe for the Jets also.
     
  14. flynryan151

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    I dunno I am just not crazy about improving VIA Cleveland cast offs. Daboll is a hated man up here and Jim Brown basically called him ******ed.
     
  15. Dude

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    The only talent the Browns offense had was Hills. Everyone else didnt do **** all year. Not really fair judgement based on this past season. He can only do so much with the little talent he had to work with. It was mostly talent for them for the reason why they struggled, the opposite of us.
     
  16. MarinePhinFan

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    LOL! Well, I wouldn't call Jim Brown a bright guy. I just don't see the harm in making sure he's not "the guy".
     
  17. MarinePhinFan

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    Oh, and the Browns did beat the Dolphins and Pats this season! ;)
     
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    Sorry bout your back man, get well soon.
     
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  19. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    So does that mean you wouldn't have taken a chance on Bill Belichick?

    I have no idea whether Daboll would make a good coordinator. But Mangini, the aforesaid Belichick and Nick Saban have all raved about him, and he's considered a rising star among coaches.

    Let's also not discount the fact that there's not a lot of talent on Cleveland's offense, and that a lot of what was there was pretty banged up.

    As Gary Stevens once famously said, "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t". And if we closed our minds to every coordinator whose unit had a bad season or two we'd be left with little to choose from.

    Offensive and Defensive coordination are two units that I think fans are quick to judge without understanding them all that well. There are many variables that go into making a system work correctly, talent and execution among them.

    Hope your back starts feeling better soon.
     
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    Remember Belicheat had to prove himself as an assistant again so it is comparing apples to oranges. When Holgrem was hired he wanted rid of Daboll, Mangini convinced Holgrem to give Daboll a chance. Alltel local Browns experts predicted that would ultimately cost Mangini his job.
     
  21. flynryan151

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    Any given Sunday ;-)
     
  22. flynryan151

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    Yeah Brown doesn't build rocket ships in his spare time but he usually has a good grasp of what's going on in Cleveland. I am just pointing out for 2 years Daboll was viewed in Cleveland how Henning was in Miami. If our goal is more explosive on offense then I think we should be looking at assistants from teams with explosive offenses.
     
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  23. flynryan151

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    Thank you very much!
     
  24. MarinePhinFan

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    They also beat the Saints and took the Jests to OT and by all accounts, if the Jests hadn't of been so damn lucky the Browns should have won that game.
     
  25. PhinGeneral

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    Belichick didn't have to prove anything. It was well known how good of a coach he was. Besides, you're missing the point- even if Belichick had to go back to being an assistant, by your reasoning you wouldn't have hired him because he was a Browns castoff.

    Daboll didn't cost Mangini his job. Holmgren comes from a different coaching tree and was never a Mangini guy. He begrudgingly gave him another chance because the Browns finished very strong in 09 and he had little choice. Like Parcells, Holmgren is looking to implement his methodology on that team. The fact that Daboll couldn't make chicken salad out of a team with 3 quarterbacks and numerous injuries isn't necessarily an indictment on him.
     
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    Give me a break the Browns that are the Ravens is completely different then the expansion Browns. And yes I don't think that Daboll or anyone one the new Browns have gotten rid of betters this offense. Daboll ran the same ground and pound Henning did. Henning>Daboll.
     
  27. PhinGeneral

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    Now you're just grasping at straws. Belichick left with the same record (5-11) as this Cleveland team. This team came back into the league in 1999, and has made the playoffs a few time since, so trying to equate it with the talent of an expansion team is a real stretch.
     
  28. flynryan151

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    You're right Daboll is a excellent way to add explosiveness to this offense. A few trips to the playoffs huh? So your definition of few is 1?

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/
     
  29. DolfanJake

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    Well this is the quality OC candidates we can only look to attract now that everyone knows our owner has Sparano on a short leash, and they need to come in here and turn things around quickly. The only ones to interview so far are desperate for jobs, or old retreads.
     
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  30. PhinGeneral

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    Regardless if it's one or two, it doesn't make your point any more valid. You want to myopically pass judgment on a coach who is considered a rising star in the league regardless of an extraneous circumstances like having the misfortune of coordinating an offense that was hamstrung by injury and a lack of talent. And that same myopic line of thinking probably would have had you dismissing Bellichick because you apparently can't see past a statistic. Keep thinking inside that box.
     
  31. flynryan151

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    no I am passing judgement based on I guarantee I know more about the Browns then most on this board. For 2 reasons being based in Cleveland and having them jammed down my throat and a football smack talk war with my uncle that spans 365 days a year, I dvr every Browns game for ammo in that war. Brian Daboll is not considered a star in this league, he might have been viewed as a person with potential pre-Browns, but since he is trash. I guarantee you that you tell any Browns fan.Daboll is a star and they will laugh you out of the room.

    This regime doesn't have the time or the luxury of looking under rocks or searching for diamonds in the rough. They need explosiveness and an impact, Brian Daboll represents more of the same ground and pound crap, he doesn't make adjustments and continues to pound a square peg intonation round hole.

    However I know he is just the type of potential hire we will attract with a lame duck coach hanging on by a thread. The irony is you calling me myopic when your only argument is he worked for Belicheat so he must be good. I am done arguing with you I am in to much pain to carry on such lunacy. You want Daboll fine, but I will tell you right now he is trash and you and everyone else will be right back here next year pissing and moaning about more of the same!
     

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