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Not enough time to develop a round #1 QB...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by vt_dolfan, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I read this over at FH...(I think..)...in regards to something Omar Kelly said. This regime does not have the time to develop a round 1 QB..with any hopes of staying employed.

    They are going to have to find a VET QB to hold the fort down and win with until the youngster gets his feet under him.

    So, my question is two fold:

    What does Sparano and Ireland need to do in 2011 in order to be back in 2012? Do we need to make the playoffs? Are they given the flexibility usually given to a rebuilding team?

    Im not sure they have alot of rope to work with here....so the decision on who in fact they decide to QB this team next season...is by far...the most critical decision facing this staff.

    Which QB out there potentially gives them the best chance to fulfill the requirements in the first question.

    I know Seattle has talked about resigning Hasselbeck...but he seems to be the type of QB that would work well here....we could win with him, and then he could pass the torch....
     
  2. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think you have to wait until we sign a OC to see who fits the system.

    But don't be surprised if its Henne, because I don't see a vet that will be much better.
     
  3. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    After reading Sparano's comments on his study of plays greater then 30 yards....I think he might be thinking Thigpen not Henne.
     
  4. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Than we are done and he will be fired after the year. Henne is better than Thigpen, I'm all for getting a better QB, I just don't see it happeneing.

    If I'm John Fox in Denver, I'm not trading Orton and starting Tebow.
     
  5. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    If he starts thigpen next year then we will most likely be drafting luck next year in the first pick. Thigpen had one start this year and the offense put up a grand total of 0 points. I'd much rather have henne than thigpen
     
  6. CaribPhin

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    That egg they laid that night, was just disgusting. We couldn't even drive for Fist Pumps from 55 yards out. It sucked.
     
  7. AdamC13

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    I believe Miami will bring in a veteran QB or two. Sparano has to think playoff of layoff. Not sure he wants to base that on the play of #7 again next year. Would you want your job to rest on the hopes that Henne doesn't lay another egg in 2011?

    I would not be surprised to see Vince Young given a shot. Dysfunctional Divas are almost always on their best behavior in year 1 when it is the honeymoon period. They just don't know how to make it work over the long haul. But with Sparano's job on the line don't be surprised if he goes for a quick fix over a long-term solution.
     
  8. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Maybe you're thinking Thigpen. After all, the backup QB is always a fan favorite. But I highly doubt Sparano is thinking Thigpen, not unless he WANTS to get fired. I think people will eventually come to realize that Chad Henne is our best chance at having a decent QB in 2011. If you wanna sacrifice a year or two to develop another QB, so be it. But as far as this year is concerned, Henne is probably the best option (available).
     
  9. DHPVW

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    I could see them looking towards Young. His NFL career is something like 30-17? He has a TON of upside and could be a great improvement in the position. Dude can play good ball when he's got his head on straight

    I personally wouldn't waste a 1st on any of the qb's this year.....that said I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Newton if he's there and we haven't traded picks. Young doesn't pan out then we shoot for Luck next year!!
     
  10. flynryan151

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    All of the above=LONG OFF SEASON!
     
  11. NFL2102

    NFL2102 New Member

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    Lets fix our Oline and run game problems before the QB situation.
     
  12. Georgia Fin

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    Boomer suggested something that made my head spin, while everyone looks to see who Denver keeps between Orton and Tebow, we forget about Quinn who will be odd man out. Would it be possible he would even be considered? Just can't see it after its all said and done but this has already became one crazy offseason.
     
  13. gilv13

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    If Quinn is our best bet, then we are in more trouble then we originally thought.
     
  14. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    only one of my favorite movies ever...

    [video=youtube;hT9yEHOjYjU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT9yEHOjYjU[/video]

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  15. Georgia Fin

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    I agree. I can't see him working out for anyone right now.
     
  16. MikeHoncho

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    You know, most people see Henne's window as half-closed, but I tend to see it as half-open. Let's see if he still sucks in a new system.
     
  17. Georgia Fin

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    Still loved Teddy's vanity plate on the Ferrari CUL8TER and the old guy who tried to win that ****ing radio contest kills me. Great movie.
     
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  18. Roman529

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    The Denver fans were screaming to start Tebow and have him play. The Denver Post kept running a poll and most of the fans wanted Tebow starting and I think this was putting pressure on McDaniels. With about three games left in the season Orton got hurt which allowed Tebow to play. I just don't see how Denver would keep Orton as a $9 million backup so I think Orton has to go......they likely will have Tebow start and Brady Quinn back him up, UNLESS Fox really dislikes Tebow or doesn't have confidence in him. I would rather have Orton than Vince Young but it depends what Denver would want in a deal.
     
  19. Roman529

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    The Denver Post keeps saying that ORTON is the odd man out as he is due $9 million next season. They cannot afford to pay Orton $9 million to be a backup. I see Tebow starting, Quinn as the #2, and Orton gets traded. The Broncos have the 2nd pick in the upcoming draft....but they all kinds of help, espcially on defense so I think Orton will be moved for a first day pick.
     
  20. gafinfan

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    Going back to the OP, why is it that most believe Jeff is tied to Tony? I don't believe that for one second! I think Jeff will pick a QB he thinks most capable of secceeding. I also think new OC and QB coach will carry great weight in this process.
     
  21. jnaledu3

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    The Fins will look to every avenue to find a QB. They will look to the draft, free agency (if it happens), and trade. They will identify the best QB available between all three areas. If that player is in the draft so be it. Get a conviction about that QB and go hard after him.

    I believe that if they do draft a QB, and he plays well while showing promise, that will be enough to keep Sparano and Ireland even if they have another mediocre season. Just look at Sam Bradford and the Rams. They went 7-9, but things are feeling really positive because they know that they have a QB that will take them places. Same thing can happen here. Hope sells tickets too.
     
  22. NJFINSFAN1

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    I think they bring in a Vet and draft a 3rd round QB prospect and let them battle it out, don't be surprised if Henne is the QB next year.
     
  23. jw3102

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    I think it is obvious that the Dolphins are going to try and bring in a veteran QB to run the offense next year. There is no way Sparano is going to risk his job again by putting the offense in the hands of Henne.
    In fact I think it is very likely that Henne will no longer be on the Dolphins beyond next season. If the Dolphins could get at least a fourth or fifth round draft pick for Henne, I think they would be happy to take the pick and get rid of Henne right now. Unfortunately I doubt if any other team in the NFL would offer Miami anything higher than a sixth round pick for Henne. So Henne will probably still be on the team next year as a backup and the Dolphins starting QB will be one of the veteran QB's who are now on the open market. It appears to me that the Dolphins will still be looking for their long term answer at QB even after next season.
     
  24. Califin

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    Do we really expect Sparano and Ireland to alter their program in any way, to quick fix the offense just to save their necks?
    If so, it certainly wouldn't be reflective in any way of the manner they've been schooled.
    If any shift in their decision making to such an effect, is percieved in the slightest, the potential consequences could be far worse, than merely sucking another season, and getting fired, due to the fact they wern't allowed enough time to properly install an offense.
    That isn't to suggest they wouldn't be weighing their options privately, but jeopardizing the future of a franchise, merely to save one's skin, certainly doesn't bode well for any prospective future in the sport.
     
  25. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Easy for you to say.You don't have a multi million dollar
    job on the line hoping Henne will get better
     
  26. X-Pacolypse

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    These clowns wouldn't even know how to begin developing a QB. They already whiffed on two 2nd round picks at QB, I have no faith that they would get one right in the 1st. Just let these stooges do what they do best, and that's continue to build around cornfed lineman.
     
  27. NJFINSFAN1

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    If we draft a young guy, Bulger could be an interesting 1 year fill in.
     
  28. Springveldt

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    I'm hoping that Matt Hassleback becomes available. He's be the perfect stop gap.

    Edit: Actually I take that back, he's been pretty horrible the last 2 years. I've not watched must Seahawk football and only saw them in the playoffs this year.
     

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