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Bloomberg: PSP2 debut on the 27th, PSPhone at MWC

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by Desides, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Via Engadget.

    The PSP is pretty much the biggest open secret since, well, the PSP Go. Rumors stipulate that it’ll use a multi-core (possibly quad-core) PowerVR SGX543 GPU, which is the same GPU supposedly being used in the iPad 2 and iPhone 5 (albeit in dual-core form). Other rumors include dual analog thumbsticks, a microphone and both front- and rear-facing cameras, no UMD drive (like the PSP Go), and the return of Memory Stick slots.

    Sony is probably praying the 3DS costs as close to $300 in the US as possible, because you can bet the PSP2 will be around that price.
     
  2. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    So Sony is working to corner the gaming and phone market. Considering their recent track record I expect slow sales for the PSP2/Phone. I'm not sure most non-techies will even know if the PSP Phone is a phone or a gaming system.
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It’s a phone that can play PSP games. It’s the best Sony can come up with to counter the iPhone’s growing gaming presence. And it’s an Android phone, so if you’re a gamer and you dislike iOS, it’s probably automatically your ideal phone.

    The PSP2 is more important, IMO. If Sony can price it at $250 or less at launch, they automatically have a leg up over the 3DS.
     
  4. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I am curious to see how the phone sales perform but for some reason I see it being stuck in customer demographic limbo.

    As for the PSP2 it could take the base of the PSP1 (the PSPgo apparently just fell flat) and build off it with the new power and capabilities. Overall I am just intrigued with what the established old man in Nintendo and the annoyingly overly hip tech guy in Apple does to Sony's place in the portable gaming/tech market. Obviously Sony has done well making a place for themselves in an area that was so long Nintendo only but with Apple and their fans who'd buy anything with an apple on it slowly pushing their way in, with actual quality tech, Sony has quite the chore here.
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    You might want to put a hold on the Apple bashing there, because the rumor is that the PSP2 and upcoming iPhone/iPad use the same GPU at a minimum. Basically, both Apple and Sony are apparently releasing roughly comparable devices in terms of hardware. Remains to be seen what Sony will do with the CPU, though. If they go ARM, then both companies are absolutely releasing the same thing.
     
  6. mor911

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    Then a few months after that, the iPhone5 or 4gs is announced. Win
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Way more interested in the PSP2 than the PSPhone.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Same. Probably not going to buy either one, though. I get the feeling Sony is trying to copy Nintendo’s tiered handheld strategy. They’ll probably cut the price of the PSP 3000 to $120 or so, price the PSP Go at $179, and position the PSP2 as close to $250 as they can get. And I think with its late-life resurgence, the PSP will actually stick around with a decent library for another couple of years.
     
  9. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Well I said that Apple was using quality tech, so I wasn't attacking their technology. What I was pointing out is that Sony doesn't have the ability to get people to buy things because of having the "PS" logo on it. That is the problem Sony faces, Apple has a huge marketing advantage. So in addition to the Nintendo problem, now Sony also has to worry about a popular brand pushing them out.
     
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Sony has sold more stuff with a Playstation logo on it than Apple has sold with iOS loaded on it.

    Apple’s advantage in this instance isn’t marketing, it’s that they sell multipurpose devices that happen to play games, and most people are happy with Angry Birds instead of, say, Dissidia Final Fantasy.
     
  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    From the Japanese newspaper Nikkei via Engadget:

    OLED touchscreen? 3G? Powerful new GPU from PowerVR? Yeah, this sucker is costing $300.
     
  12. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm cool with $300 if the games look interesting.
     
  13. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t count on it, though there’s always hope.
     
  14. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Rumor: this is the PSP2. There are some elements that suggest this is a Photoshopped fake, but it DOES incorporate most of the rumored features.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Engadget got their hands on a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, aka the PlayStation Phone.

    [​IMG]

     
  16. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Also, Sony’s supposed PSP2 debut press event, PlayStation Meeting 2011, will kick off in six hours at 1 AM EST (since it’s happening in Japan.) Various liveblogs are of course keeping track, but I’ll just link to Kotaku’s.
     
  17. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    For a second I though they were one and the same.
     
  18. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    They could wind up being pretty similar. I know Sony isn’t exactly the smartest software developer in the world, but you have to think the PSPhone is a byproduct of PSP2 development efforts, and therefore the PSP2 incorporates a lot of the same features while going many steps further since it’s not a phone.

    We’ll find out in five hours.
     
  19. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm intrigued, but I will be asleep most likely.
     
  20. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I’m just making the information I find available. Like this: here’s IGN’s live blog.

    I’ve already preordered a 3DS, so it’s not like I’m in the PSP2 market, but it’ll be interesting to see what Sony can cook up. They need to get as close to $250 as possible.
     
  21. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    If it's $300 or less, I think I'll end up pre-ordering it if it's got specs close to what are being circulated.
     
  22. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think Sony can price it below $300 if it has a quad-core SGX543 and dual-core CPU. And developers have said off the record that it can match the PS3 in some respects (though that’s less impressive given how old the PS3’s hardware is.) I think it’ll be $300, and even then Sony will lose a lot of money on each unit sold.
     
  23. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Oh, I definitely think they'll be selling these for a loss for a while.
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The question is how much. iPhones are $600 unsubsidized.

    Sony needs to hit $250, really. Otherwise Nintendo will just win on momentum and price. Again.
     
  25. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Nintendo is going to win again regardless.

    I've seen so many people foaming at the mouth to play Mario Kart and Ocarina of Time yet again.
     
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  26. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Mainly Ocarina of Time, which baffles me. Most overrated Zelda game ever. :lol: But I guess it’s the gateway game for most people, just as Final Fantasy VII was the gateway game for the casual RPG fan, so it’s automatically considered one of the best of all time… even though it’s not.

    Honestly, I’ve seen quite a bit of ambivalence toward the 3DS. A lot of people aren’t pleased with the battery life and the “launch window” stuff. There’s also some grumbling about the form factor and whether or not it’s worth toting a 3DS around now that the iPhone actually has some serious games worth a damn.

    Nintendo’s victory isn’t automatically assured, but the cheaper the product, the better the chances. 3DS games going up $10 in price isn’t going to help.
     
  27. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I've seen grumblings too, about all that you mention (including game price), but I've still seen plenty of people talking about buying one and getting one launch game (if any) and just playing their DS games until other stuff they want comes out.

    I'm intrigued by the 3DS for sure, but it really only seems like a slight upgrade to the current psp hardware which is a bit crazy to me. Then again, the majority don't seem to care because it's a Nintendo product.
     
  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    A sellout at launch is a given, but I suspect game sales will be pretty disappointing. Personally, I’m going to just play some DS games on the thing; Dragon Quest VI, Ghost Trick, maybe some Layton games that I’ve missed (read: all of them.)

    It can do more than a PSP—reference Resident Evil Revelations—but it’s probably going to get outclassed by the PSP2 without question. Still, better graphic capability didn’t help the PSP against the DS.
     
  29. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yea, but wasn't the DS out much earlier than the PSP?

    Edit: I guess only 6 months. Still 6 months for a handheld is quite a jump (IMO), and being Sony's 1st handheld vs a stalwart like the gameboy couldn't have helped.
     
  30. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It wasn’t a matter of release date: Sony was priced out of the market. Remember the Game Boy Micro, and how it was such a bizarre announcement? Nintendo was beating Sony on price; you had the Micro setting the very bottom of the market, the GBA SP being the “mainstream” product, and the DS being the “premiere” product. Nintendo priced Sony out of the handheld market, and the PSP never really picked up traction until some price cuts, hardware revision, and higher costs of developing current gen console games caused developers to start releasing more games on the PSP.

    I see the same thing unfolding. Nintendo is again going to price Sony out of the market unless the PSP2 can match the 3DS’ price. Then you’ll have a situation where Sony and Nintendo are competing on equal footing.
     
  31. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    As much as I think Sony needs to hit $250, I just don't think it will.
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Which is why I see the PSP2 getting off to a slower start than the 3DS. I think Nintendo needs serious competition in the handheld space, and while Apple is a major current and long-term threat, it’s just not the same as having a robust second dedicated handheld from Sony or someone else.
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    15 minutes out from the start of the event.

    Looks like there are people from Capcom, Konami, and Epic in the back room. Some mention of Activision and a “next generation portable.”
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Sony announces PlayStation Suite: cross-platform PS content for Android, both phones and tablets. Also announces PlayStation Certified, a licensing program for Android hardware to verify it can play PS Suite games. First goal is to emulate first-gen PS1 games on PS Suite devices. Hardware neutral, hardware agnostic. Also launching PlayStation Store for Android. Screenshot of the PS Store shows Syphon Filter, Cool Boarders 2, Wild ARMs (yay!), MediEvil, Rally Cross.

    [​IMG]

    tl;dr Sony declares war on Apple and iOS.
     
  35. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Ladies and gentlemen, the PSP2. SIXAXIS gyro controls, touch pad on the back, front and rear cameras, bigger screen, dual analog. Screen is 5’’ OLED, resolution is 960x544, which is exactly double the PSP’s 480x272 resolution. Games come on flash media (think SD cards, or DS carts), has 3G and WiFi, will be out Q4.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  36. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Sign me up Johnny!

    5" OLED screen. That's a big screen man. Got to be pricey.

    NGP appears to be the name. 4x the resolution of the psp. Dang!
     
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    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    This holiday though (presumably only Japan)? Balls, dude.
     
  38. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Ok, 4x the PSP resultion is 1920x1080. This thing can get PS3-like images then. No way this thing is cheap. :lol:
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Games: Little Big Planet, Hot Shots Golf, Uncharted(!), Killzone, Wipeout, Little Deviants, Resistance, Hustle Kings, Gravity Daze.

    2x, not 4x. 4x is a typo. 480x272 * 2 = 960x544.

    Graphics are approaching PS3 quality. Not bad.
     
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    Desides Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;sXoVDJWP12I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXoVDJWP12I[/video]
     

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