Carey A Keeper At RT?

Yeah, it goes like this. Out of 10 pass plays, such and such player did well on 8 of them so he grades out at 80 percent positive which is darn good. Forgetting to tell us or maybe consider that one of the 2 negatives was either a sack or a TD against....lol

 

I have a question if you do not mind me asking. You are evidently signed up for their services and I like what they have. What is the best overall plan there, the 50 for the year for our team or the 90 for the entire year ? for the entire year do you get the stats from every team ? Sorry If this question was not supposed to be put up here.

My opinion on Carey. Its evident the guy has something bothering him and I believe its more then turf toe and a sprained MCL. Players play all the time with sprained MCLs after some rest. It has to be something more in the knee going on.

For those in the opinion if he is cut it just creates another hole or headache. Well, I had a manager confide in me once that one of his field superintendents was driving him nuts. I had personally read some bad reviews this Supt. had from a lot of our customers. I asked the Field manager what he was going to do about him. He replied that its so busy out there that he had no other choice but to keep the guy because he did not want to feel the pain of being one Supt. short. ( I must admit, it was super busy 2005 in the construction business )

I looked at him and said, yes, it would be painful to be one guy short in the current situation but, you go to work everyday and you know you are going to feel pain because of this guy. If I were you, I would let him go, go thru the pain but once you find a replacement, your pain goes away. So I asked, whats better, feeling bad pain temporarily, or keep the clown and feel the pain continously knowing all to well, the guy was not fit to do the job and our customers are not getting any happier with him and I am not getting any happier having to see you bang your head against the wall daily.

He released the man two days later, went thru three weeks of having his other Supts. split the guys work up until we found somebody. We did, after 3 and half weeks find a great replacement and within 5 weeks of his firing, all the pain went away. Not a fable, not a tale, just a story of what happens when you do nothing about the pain you have and keep putting up with it. If you do nothing, the pain never goes away.

 

All I read is Carey at G.
He can barely get his fat *** out of his stance vertically and now you expect him to kick out and lead the way.
We got burned with his last deal.
Have to keep him now at RT for another year then bye bye babs.

 

Yes, Carey at Guard. Absolutely! Try watching him when they used an unbalanced line with Long one the outside of Carey. They ran the ball very very well from it. Carey was constantly getting to the second level, and the dude can flat out maul Lb's.

 

Sure he does! There are two holes on the line as it is. Why make it three?

 

He is 30 years old coming off a sub-par injury plagued season, and his contract balloons to over 4 million for next year.

If he does not take a pay cut, I feel he will be cut.

 

Lol...classic KillaP...controversial..provocative, and often missjudged..

''He can barely get his fat *** out of his stance vertically and now you expect him to kick out and lead the way''.

Funny... accurate.

 

Not that is an interesting question. I've always thought they did a terrible job, and even moreso after what happened to OJ McDuffie....

 

Why is it When He has 1 Not So Good Year The Majority of Phins Fans Wants Him Out, I Like Carey, I Believe there isnt a better option other than him out there. Keep Carey

 

Well, he is signed till 2013 at somewhere between $4.2 and $5.6M per year which doesn't mean a lot, except that as a decent RT, that's not overpaying. He struggled late in the season with injuries (more bumps and bruises than an official "injury"), however it's apparent our OL struggled. Most of that struggle was inside. If you are talking about drafting a RT in the first round, then cutting Carey, trading him or whatever could happen. Unlike GMJohnson, I'm of the opinion that his natural position is RG, not RT.... He certainly enjoyed more success at the collegiate level at RG than RT, however he's matured into a pretty good RT and his ability to swing to the left side in a pinch can't be overlooked. Getting back to the contract though, after playing at RT consistently for several years, is it worth moving him now ?? Will he still have the ability to pull at this point in his career ?? Don't know...I think they leave him at RT and go about drafting better interior OL....

 

some people take what he says more personal than they should, when it comes to critiquing our own players.....I root for all our players, and so does he, but sometimes you just gotta tell it like it is, and separate yourself from that connection that bonds you to the player and team and be honest.

 

for me its because I know he could be a better player..and the lack of athleticism that he and others are displaying, and how that is negatively affecting our rungame dissapoints me, because I know if he took his body and nutrition more serious he would be quicker and more athletic...kind of a vicious cycle...

 

SB, i dont think we need to overanalyze the situation, we are at the point where every man on the team needs to look at themselves...If Carey did that, and had the willpower to do something, he would report to camp at 325 to 330 with improved body fat percentage, because that would be the #1 thing that would improve his game, not someone better playing next to him.

 

Carey knows this himself. He had an interview a few years ago on a Miami radio station where he stated that he needed to back away from the buffet table. Unfortunately he has never done it. It is a damn shame too because IMO Carey could be elite at his position if he had the willpower. Now injuries are catching up and the body is feeling the result of playing with weight issues throughout his career.

 

Just shooting straight SB. I think Carey is too slow at this point in his career to be plopped in at the G position. Yeah I can be a pain in the *** but I hold no grudges against anyone here ever. I always state my opinions and move on with no hard feelings. I've seen you say that you wonder why I pick on you but that is not the case. I like everyone equally here.

 

wouldn't be overly concerned with Carey, the BookEnds are not the problem. the interior line has to be reconstructed

 

That is all fine and good, I have no problem with him, but money talks. At this point he will make way to much next year.

I would love to keep him, but at that price it maybe hard to do.

 

Penciling Nate Garner back in makes me happy Pod. We missed him.

 

with the return of garner we might be able to fix the line on the cheap, with a pro-bowl caliber center. find a real beast to secure the middle

 

Garner is a professional backup, not a starter.

 

He is better than four of our starters last season.
Also could play every position on the OL if need be.
You didn't watch the OL last year did you pal?

 

Then you didn't watch a lot of offensive line play this year. Berger had a couple of really awful games, but he was solid throughout. There are guys who played like he did at his worst for an entire season.

No, it doesn't, and it's right there for you to look up.

 

I respect your grade evaluation but believe me. Nate Garner is a backup. A very good one but just the same, a backup. Our failure in the Oline this year was the talent from the starters to the backups was akin to stepping off a cliff at the Grand Canyon

Tackle, Backup, Lydon Murtha very bad to say the least
G/C Cory Proctor, HORRIBLE by any means.
G/T Pat McQuistan, not bad at guard but by no stretch of the imagination could he ever be a starter.
G Feinga, part what, t 3? This is a project they should give up on.

and thats it as far as back ups go. This team played with a LT that had one arm short in the season, A LG who should have been the center from the get go, a center that other then being a personal experiment of Tony Sparano at Center, had no business being a starting center in the NFL, a RG who was a rookie and had some sort of illness the team already knew about but ignored it and a RT who makes the Pillsbury Doughboy look like Twiggy and then his Knee shattered on top of that. A running back in Ronnie Brown who at best, was mediocre on his own part and then people wondered why we could not run the ball ? Ha

 

You're telling him he hasn't watched much O line play? Well then what have you been watching? Do you even know what number Berger is?

Hint, he's the one that's first on the list to be replaced on the O line.

Maybe the rest of us are getting our info the old fashioned way, watching the games.

 

Bad offensive line play? No, apparently not, because Berger isn't nearly that bad, and suggesting that he was either much worse than the 25th best center in the league is bad hyperbole or not watching. Nor will he likely to be the first replaced. If they spend heavy resources on the OL, it'll almost certainly be at Guard as well. Especially considering Joe Berger played pretty well in 2009.

Berger will be on the team, and will probably be starting in '11.

 

Berger is a back up..... unless you're short of talent. Which is why he was playing in the first place.

"If they spend heavy resources on the OL, it'll almost certainly be at Guard as well"

Well which is it?

Are you conceding that we'll like be upgrading at center?

I mean yeah we need help at guard obviously but what are you trying to say or in your case, not say?

That he was playing well but yeah we'll probably upgrade his position?

 

No, it wasn't. Berger played well in '09, and got the job on his own merits. He didn't play as well in '09 and '10, but a backup? No, not quite.

No, they probably will not upgrade the position, and in addition to that any money they spend will likely be at Guard.