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Mayock's thoughts on some players

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by padre31, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'm not a fan of Castonzo's game


    Standard opinion on Mallet, to me I think he can overcome it.


    He looks like a good player, but not a first rd player.

    Odd with Wes Bunting saying he does not know of any scout who is in love with Gabbert.

    Interesting as other fine DE prospects in most drafts will be pushed further down the board.

    Ouch, kiss o' death as a cover corner isn't a cover corner if he is more of a Safety.

    My favorite darkhorse for the #15 pick, I think he would bookend with Wake nicely and fill in as a situational passrusher from Day 1.

    Interestingly enough Mayock only has 1 first rd grade on a running back, Mark Ingram, but he also feels there will be outstanding value at running back in Rd 3 with Shane Vereen and K Hunter and several other quality backs still on the board at that point.

    I really like Vereen, and Delone Carter.
     
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    alen1 New Member

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    Peterson at safety is ridiculous IMO.
     
  3. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    ve pressure.
    "When he has a clear pocket and clear vision, there's no one better," said Mayock. "The problem is every time I get excited, he does something from a decision-making or accuracy perspective that bothers me. When he goes bad, the common denominator is pressure in the pocket. I would be very concerned with taking him in the first round." Mallett's stock is clearly trending in the wrong direction.


    Standard opinion on Mallet, to me I think he can overcome it.


    Based on what? I can't think of a single QB who struggled against pressure in college then went to the NFL (where there's more pressure) and succeeded.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    A part of that is, "good" NCAA Qb's are rarely pressured Rafi, they tend to come from successful teams with solid line play if one looks at the Arkansas line, who is a legit NFL prospect? And what round are they likely to be drafted?
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    Especially the tackles.

    As for how Mallet can overcome it:

    A) better conditioning, he looks like a stick figure, he needs some Rothlesberger type weight gain
    B) competitiveness, to me Petrino brought him into Arkansas with the firm comittment that he was going to be the guy, that lead to Mallet doing whatever the hell he wanted as long as they won games, things do not work like that in the NFL.

    IMO of course, I see enough in Mallet to believe he can overcome those issues.

    As the old truism goes, "you cannot teach accuracy to a Qb" if you start with that foundation you can build around it.
     
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    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the response, but I find your arguments did little to inspire hope. Being heavier isn't going to make a better decision maker. It will only, eventually, make him about as big as he was last year relative to NFL defenders. And if he's a guy who can't handle being the guy, b/c it makes him lazy or whatever, why would we want him anyways.
     
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    Well, a pity this thread will disappear into the ether Rafi, as it would be fun to revisit Mallet two yrs from now.
     
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    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he'll turn out good, all I'm saying is that the odds are strongly against it. The flaws he has are typical for every QB bust. It generally doesn't pay to go against the odds.
     
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    Well, we'll disagree as to me, he fits 90% of the Parcell's template, 25 wins, completion percentage, 3 yrs starting.

    21 wins, has the completion percentage, 2 yrs starting.

    I also think his cockiness is a net plus.

    But then again, one game featuring Mallet landing on his butt and he could melt down.
     
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    May as well add McShay's thoughts on running backs, on this one I agree with him, there will be excellent value to be had in this running back class.

    Also wonder about John Clay being a good late round value, in a rotation he could do a fine job.
     
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    http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4627


    more nuggets at link Greg Romeus was a guy who I thought would have a strong season but a knee injury sidelined him, which appears to be the story for Wanny's Pitt team, Romeus and Lewis both had down yrs due to injuries.

    Stepping back and looking though, this is a surprisingly deep draft with Dion Lewis and John Clay both more than likely late rd picks, and I'd think a small host of other prospects who just will be lost in the shuffle and having their position de-emphasized by NFL Staffs.
     
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    Jabaal Sheard is a better player than Greg Romeus IMO. Always has been.
     
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    Well, I had Romeus pegged as a late 3rd early 5th rd type of choice, inow, in my wheelhouse, with the injury he probably will be a mid 6th to early 7th rd pick.

    That is why I think there is value in this draft, it is defense heavy but the talent that is likely to slide is impressive..to me.

    Dion Lewis 2 yrs ago was a stud, knicked up he is a late rd choice and he is not 22 yet.
     
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    I really like Mario Fanin of Auburn as a late round prospect at RB
     
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    I really think we won't draft a HB in the 1st round or 2nd round either if we trade down. I have a feeling this will be one of those drafts that follows the pattern of doubling up on players in the mid to late rounds. I see us drafting two HB's between rounds 3 and 5.

    I have a feeling our first pick and position will be these odds:
    OL-45%
    QB-35%
    LB- 20%
     

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