Well, for me I have no ax to grind with Cam Newton one way or another, my philosophy towards players is the Staff should identify what they do well, then put them into positions to succeed, I do think Newton can succeed in the NFL, also think there is just to much Hype around him.
That is my thought as well, the value at running back in this draft is in the later rounds, as much as I really do want a Feature Back, one will have to emerge over being selected specifically for that purpose.
Since when is throwing the ball well at the Combine made such a big deal by people other than fans? The throwing sessions at the Combine do not much mean to me. As for the scouts comments, did Florio tell you which team the Scout was coming from because it could easily be a BS comment. I've heard some good things about Newton's interviews. JMHO.
Ozzy, roger ... covered that in another thread, if'n we drop down (especially twice) -- finding that RT like Camiri or G/C like Pouncey become very viable alternatives along with WR/RB ... with the 2d/3d rds becoming real options for us. I do want Kaepernick with "a" or "the" 2d though .... the QB picks are going to have an effect on WR picks ... those are a crap shoot right now. CAR, CIN, TEN, and WAS are all potential QB teams that aren't set at WR either, regardless of what is said ... the only team that is 'close' to a lock for WR is STL ... the top 10 will be interesting this year to say the least ...
Rumor has it the Steelers want Mike to team up with Maurkice. This is what I meant by MJD types of running backs: Of course we draft him and like Ronnie Brown his health is an issue but you have to love that Receiving ability. His issue is he has fumblitis.
Pads, that's a nice brother tandem to have - no ?? Back to Todman though, he'll probably go lower than he should because of his size and that Brown hasn't been overly successful -- but as i intimated, they are not the same guy. Todman really is much better because of his burst and speed. A sleeper of sorts, who can also be a return guy .... but in typical UCONN fashion, he was rode pretty hard last year as a starter. the good news is his 1st 2 years with Brown and then trying to feature Dixon, he didn't get significant work.
He also has hit the holeitis. Dude can tote the rock. The way he shifts his balance at full speed is a natural ability that cannot be taught.
With all the teams who need a QB worse than we do who draft ahead of us, I could see one of them slightly overdrafting him in the top half of the 2nd round. I don't think we have a shot unless we use a 1st or early 2nd on him.
Eh, I've liked him for a time Ozman, along with Vareen and Carter, that many fumbles is a non starter for Sparano.
Couple of hits: 1. Jerrel Jernigan. Not a big deal, but I told you famed 4.3 speed looked more like borderline 4.4/4.5 speed on tape. I had his unofficials at 4.51 and 4.47, right where I expected. 2. Greg Little. Disappointing to hear that Greg Little has been hurting himself in interviews. Mike Williams may be a good character comparison but not a good talent comparison. 3. Denarius Moore. Blew the doors off this thing and I'm not talking about the 40 yard dash. I will not say any more as I'm writing him up in Draft Winds 6. 4. Cam Newton. Good job on the interviews and press opportunities, only a 'solid' effort on the throwing portion. Anyone who says he was 'terrible' probably has an agenda. I liked the way Mayock (who doesn't like Newton much) ended his Combine coverage talking about how he can already anticipate in his press conference being asked about Cam Newton's struggling in the throwing portion and how he already disagrees with it and thinks he didn't struggle at all. 5. Quarterbacks. On the field in the throwing portions the only clear standouts were Tyrod Taylor (bad) and Ryan Mallett (good) and if anyone tries to tell you anything else about anyone else that gives the impression that their performance was better or worse than mixed and insignificant one way or another, they're trying to sell you something. 6. Julio Jones, Randall Cobb, Leonard Hankerson, Edmond Gates, Ricardo Lockette, Armon Binns, Joe Morgan, Aldrick Robinson, Torrey Smith, Terrence Toliver, Denarius Moore and Titus Young. Way to go out there and be the fast guys that you are, or to be faster than people gave you credit for. Some of those guys were supposed to be fast and they were fast. Some of those guys, if there was a question, it was answered in a positive way. 7. Gauntlet. What a terrible gauntlet all the way around from the first group of WRs. Yeesh. 8. Cam Newton, Josh Portis, Jake Locker, Colin Kaepernick, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Tyrod Taylor and even Jeff Van Camp. From a purely athletic standpoint, probably the most impressive QB class I've ever seen. 9. Anthony Sherman. What a showing, all the way around. Won't say any more because again, I'm writing him up in Draft Winds 6. 10. Ryan Colburn, Scott Tolzien, T.J. Yates. These are your selfless troopers at the QB position. Whereas every QB (except Gabbert) threw for the WR drills, only those three guys threw for the TEs and RBs as well. They were out there to show that they'll do whatever, whenever. It wasn't always pretty, just like it wasn't always pretty for the bigger "stars" that came in and threw for the wide receivers, but they generally did a good job and deserve credit.
Is Ryan Williams the younger brother of Ricky? Dreads, tats, eyebrow pierced, ears pierced. Please tell me this man hasnt found cannibis yet.
I actually think Julio Jones will last to the 10-14 range. Green will be taken before him, it's almost certain that 2 QBs will be taken first 10 picks, Peterson/Amukamara are both going top 10, Von Miller is going top 5-10, and then you have a number of DLinemen that can go within the first 10 picks. (Fairly, Bowers, Quinn, Dareus, Paea, etc...) Julio would be the only guy I would trade up for in the draft and the Lions may be looking to move down from 13...
I'd like to know if Jernigan's injury in his Bowl game is something that's kept him from 100% or if that was he true time. Regardless, IMO, he plays fast in pads.
exactly. his 10 yard split was a full tenth faster than the average last year they said. as Mayock pointed out, thats huge. I mean a tenth over the 40 would be considered alot, so a full tenth quicker in his 10 yard split shows what his game is all about. Ingrams 40 time is pretty irrelevant tbh, unless it was in John Clay territory lol
#15 maybe is to high for him Bro, not that I'd mind him mind you, I think he would be a huge piece for us.
He's quick, but I don't think he's all that fast. I've never seen "fast" on tape. I see the ability to make people miss, and the ability to be physical after the catch. Those are things that Emmanuel Sanders had, things that DeSean Jackson had. But Emmanuel Sanders and DeSean Jackson also had true 4.30 to 4.40 type speed and Jerrel Jernigan doesn't have that. It's not all that surprising. Schools like Troy can be known sometimes for pumping out speed figures on guys that aren't really all that accurate. I think that's part of the problem. People have "known" what Jernigan's speed is for so long that they haven't bothered to test it on the field by seeing who is running with him and in what situation.
Yeah, Jones really helped his stock at the combine too. I don't want to see Miami trade up to get a Wr when we already have 5 and no Rb's. Plus no second round pick. I would not dislike picking him at all but the Dolphins better have a plan B to get the running game in tact if they do. It would have to be a team like Detroit to trade with though because I don't see him getting past the Rams. They probably would want him more than Sparano so they can get Bradford some top notch talent...
That is the thing, I think Henne CAN still succeed, which is why I've banged two drums: -Run the Ball, Run the Ball, Run the Ball, Henne was the same Qb in 2010 as he was in 09, the only difference was a running game that went from #4 in the NFL to #22, add in Special Teams went from #9 to #28 and Henne's problems were magnified. -More 3 wr' sets, or at least get two competent Te's...which is why I am hoping for Shockey to be signed. Henne showed he can flourish in either the no huddle, or in a two Te offense, let's do more of it in 2011. I also think that maybe Dolfans have not seen what developing a young Qb looks like and I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. Put it this way, if Henne were in the NFCW, and Alex Smith was flamming out, we would not be so critical, instead we are in a division with: -NFL MVP Qb -Qb who has been to the last two AFC Title games and even younger than Henne -Bills found a stud in Fitzpatrick Which makes his screwups look all the worse, and even then 6 int's that really were not on him, and 1 dropped int by an opponent. Dude cannot catch a break..
He had better hope he's better than Owens otherwise he'll be working over the CFL instead of working over NFL defenses. He's faster than Owens. Different player.
