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Jason Taylor to be cut by the Jets...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    TheJetsStream Manish Mehta
    by finsjesse
    BREAKING: #Jets will release Kris Jenkins, Vernon Gholston, Damien Woody and Jason Taylor, per sources. #nfl #nyj

    Will he come back? Retire a Dolphin? or forever be hated for signing with our hated rival?
     
  2. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    I wonder how he feels about that Gatorade bath now...
     
  3. godolphins

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    We don't need him
     
  4. ascii

    ascii People Watcher

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    But he didn't get his championship. :-(
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    YES!!!!!!!

    Now he can go back to being "JT" again.
     
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  6. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, i guess some drama would suffice for now as there isnt any real football stuff going on. UGH, this is going to be the longest offseason ever!
     
  7. Hurricane

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    http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dolphins/joerose/2011/02/jason_taylor.html

     
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  8. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Ah yes...poor Jason. He sold his soul for that one shot. So close, and yet so far. Pitty. :shifty:









    :lol:
     
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  9. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Eat some ****, jason.
     
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  10. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Thank You
     
  11. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What happened to the people who thought they were ruining this team by letting Jason Taylor go and letting two inexperienced linebackers like Cameron Wake and Koa Misi carry the load?

    I'm kinda surprised about Damion Woody too. He's 33, but he's still a good quality RT. Or Right Guard. Or Left Guard. Or Center(If you don't let him shotgun snap).
     
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  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    i thought it wasn't the best idea. JT would have been a better back up than Moses or the other guy
     
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  13. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    No big surprise there. Anybody who hates Bill Parcells is OK in my book. He knew that guy was a clown and he was right. He'll retire a Dolphin this season or next and there will be at least 100 threads with people huffing and puffing and whining about it. I rarely open JT threads anymore because when I see Dolphins fans still upset about how he didn't fall in line with the rotten Tuna it just boggles my mind. Years of playmaking and sacrifice on losing teams with incompetent management [how many years did he go never even thinking about hitting free agency?] and it's all erased because some has been false savior waltzed into town and decided he wanted to throw some weight around. I used to wade through all of the posts about this evil JT character who only cared about money and not the Dolphins or south Florida. But these days when I want to read some good fiction I just log on to amazon.
     
  14. padre31

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    Right here, we finished with fewer sacks in 2010, and Misi had 4.5 for the yr, same as JT, our 3rd best passrusher had what..3?


    Torn Achilles iirc.
     
  15. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Pretty sure that's the same imagination that saw Berger doing a good job at Center...
     
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  16. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    And JT even at this point still made more game changing plays than any of our backups. If fist pumper didn't want him fine. What was ridiculous was the notion that the defense was somehow going to be worse if he stayed.
     
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    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    Are you talking about the contract the rotten Tuna tried to hustle him into signing in the middle of the season? I can't believe he didn't blindly trust a man who was consulting with the Jets and preparing to hit the road while still collecting an enormous paycheck.
     
  19. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Give me a break. Jason Taylor did not die for your sins. He signed here because he thought it was best for him and his family. He wasn't here for you, or the fans, and he didn't take a home town discount here.
     
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  20. Desides

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    What? No, he didn’t. Jason Taylor wasn’t traded to Washington or allowed to leave because he somehow perceived Bill Parcells to be a clown. He was traded because he was a talented veteran who wasn’t showing offseason dedication to the team, and a new regime needed to make a point to the locker room.

    Nor is he exactly the selfless paragon of Phindom you portray him to be.
     
  21. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    No, he only won a "Man of the Year" for his service to the community........ yeah he could give a **** about Miami

    Don't do what you constantly chastise others for and be over dramatic....we get it, you don't like dancing.
     
  22. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    they weren't ruining a team by letting JT walk, they were alienating a fanbase

    see how fast the fanbase (myself included) turned on Sparano when there was a chance for Harbaugh? How we were tired of Ireland sleaziness?

    Some of that has roots in the casual disregard for two greatest fan favorites post-Marino, JT and Zach.
     
  23. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Jason Taylor was a horrendous pass rusher this year, and his legs clearly went. He had close to the same amount of sacks as Misi, but the hits and pressures, etc. weren't near the same in virtually the same amount of snaps. Offenses didn't respect him the least bit, and he didn't do anything unless placed repeatedly in the best matchups(For example, vs. the Dolphins where he got a sack in 1v1 blocking vs. Lousaka Polite).

    Here's the PFF stats, for comparison:

    Koa Misi- 7th overall, 15.1 overall rating, 4.8 rush, 0.2 coverage, 9.8 run(5 sack, 4 Hit, 20 pressures), 624 snaps
    Jason Taylor- 55th overall, -0.9 overall rating, -5.1 pass rush, -1.0 coverage, 7.1 run(5 sacks, 3 hit, 15 pressures), 602 snaps

    If we're complaining about Quentin Moses getting snaps over Taylor...

    Quentin Moses- 18th overall, 4.4 overall, 3.4 rush, -2.2 coverage, 3.2 run,(1 sack, 2 penalties, 6 pressures), 185 snaps.

    Taylor's performance wouldn't have warranted him getting snaps over Moses at this point.
     
  24. Ross will resign him for a retirment cermony. That guy loves an excuse to throw a party. What will be interesting to see is how many fans boo him at his ceremony.
     
  25. princekong2

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    Ehh If hes Not retiring (Please retire your like 39) i wouldnt be angry if we brought him in to back up wake and misi, possibly teach or corners how to catch or something
     
  26. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I was fine with us letting JT go. Just wasn't fine with the bush league way Bill "The big FUPA" Parcells dicked around a Dolphins legend. We all know the Jets aren't the classiest of organizations but at least they are letting him go early so he knows where he stands.
     
  27. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I do not agree. I think if Taylor only played 185 snaps then he would have a better snap per play ratio. He is best suited for a Trace Armstrong role.
     
  28. Disgustipate

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    It's very admirable, and I'm not in any sense demonizing Taylor personally. That has absolutely nothing to do with football, though, and that doesn't warrant him getting a free pass to stick around and retire whenever he wants despite his play.
     
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  29. muscle979

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    Like I said, this is pointless. I guess to be a great Dolphin you should kiss the *** of an alltime Giants/Jets/Patriots great. JT wasn't dedicated enough to the team. Sure thing. The year the Giants won the Super Bowl Strahan sat out of training camp because he didn't feel like going. I watched him joke in an interview about how he would have sat out more if he would have known that he just had to pay 100K for it. The difference here - the team wasn't being run by some has been who had to make sure he was the biggest name in town. Maybe Coughlin said something about it, maybe he didn't, I don't know. But the NY Giant future HOFer came back that season and nobody remembers or cares about the training camp he never attended.
     
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  30. Muck

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    Parcells hands him a piece of paper on the practice field with a number, and says they won't negotiate with his agent (whom he's had a strong relationship with since he entered the league).

    Yeah, that's professional. As was the leaking of bogus information by the team about supposed meetings and such in the offseason (which didn't happen) after the team asked for silence -- per their standard operating procedure -- and JT obliged. Bang up job by the front office. JT said at the time, he didn't want to worry about that stuff during the season. It was November and they were trying to stay in the hunt.

    And you know what? JT said if he knew that would be the last time they'd talk to him, he'd have signed on the practice field. He didn't want to leave.

    Basically JT had two options: NYJ or retire. And you know what? Both sides made the right decision. JT is near the end. And NYJ was a damn sight better than us this year. You play for championships, right? JT got further this year than he had his entire career in Miami. One game from the Super Bowl.

    To me, and this is just me, fans who spit on JT for going to NY didn't deserve him in the first place. I just don't understand that angle.
     
  31. CaribPhin

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    I was kind surprised by that too. There are older guys in the league and few of them are playing at his level. We are in the market for O-Lineman and if he can do about the same job he did last year, at a reduced rate of course, he could be stopgap to plug in at guard for a year.
     
  32. Disgustipate

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    That's what the Jets were planning on doing with him? That's where the defensive genius of Rex Ryan was supposed to triumph over the irreverent stupidity of our coaching staff? The Jets got it, they were supposed to use him "right", not playing on the Strong Side or anything like that.

    Didn't work.
     
  33. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    How can I put this: In light of new information, my position has softened. But, can you kick a man for disinformation. After all, on coconut internet, you don't get the full story.
     
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  34. CaribPhin

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    I turned on Sparano because of 14-18.
     
  35. Muck

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    It didn't help that Pace got suspended and forced him to play more. But yeah, Rex thought he could get 15 sacks with him.

    They overestimated what he had left in the tank.
     
  36. CrunchTime

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    JT is one of the all time great Dolphins .Its not his fault that this failing regime could not recognize what he brings to the table.Yes he is in decline but we missed him when Wake was double teamed or when needed veteran presence.

    In a few years time he will be up for the ROH voting and make no mistake about it.His name will be up the among the other Dolphin greats .

    His role now would be strictly as a pash rush specialist but personally I think JT will retire especially now as we still have this inept regime in place as a lame duck regime .
     
  37. Desides

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    He wanted a new contract offer, he got it. Twice. Does it really matter how the contract offer was presented? Hell, Bill Belichick quit the Jets by writing a note on a cocktail napkin; we’re going to get up in arms about the Dolphins supreme football poobah personally offering an extension to a declining veteran?

    IMO, there’s a lot of sentimentality about Jason Taylor that’s interfering with people’s assessment of what happened at the end of 2009.

    Taylor brought nothing to the table in 2010 for the Jets. Re-signing him would have been a disastrous move for the defense.
     
  38. CrunchTime

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    He is a Dolphin great and he brought nothing on the table for the Jets ? He is still a Dolphin at heart .:yes:
     
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    Don’t let sentimentality get in the way of realizing that Jason Taylor is done as a football player. He was done in 2009, and it became obvious in 2010.

    He can still be a Dolphin at heart in retirement. Like Zach Thomas, except not as devoted.
     
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  40. padre31

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    600 snaps was far to many for him, he should have been in the Q Moses role and would have been if he had signed the offer.

    I do not blame the man for going to the Jest, I will quibble with the notion that he was done as if one looks his sacks came early in the season when he was still somewhat fresh, but I do think the only real reason why JT was not in Miami for his final season was JT himself.

    He can say whatever he wishes, there was an offer, he turned it down.

    He'll go up on the ROH and imho is a HoF player, if Richard Dent can make it in, so can Jason Taylor.
     

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