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Lions release RB Kevin Smith.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by BuckeyeKing, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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  2. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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  3. Hurricane

    Hurricane Guest

    They didn't release him, they didn't tender him.

    The difference is, had he been released, we could've signed him today. We have to wait until a CBA is reached, because he is still under Detroit's control until the league year ends (it was extended 24 hours today).
     
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  4. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Kevin Smith would make a nice #2 or #3. He didn't produce great in Detroit, but had ****ty blocking. He's at least a good quality receiving option, if they are letting Cobbs go.
     
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  5. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Yep, no tender does not equal released until the end of the league year.
     
  6. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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  7. CaribPhin

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    Everyone like?
     
  8. CaribPhin

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    Get Smith please. Great receiver who has taken screens to the house. Solid runner who will consistently get yards.
     
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  9. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Could do a lot worse than Kevin Smith as a #2.
     
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  10. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I would love to have Smith in Miami, I think he is very talented.

    I believe that Harbaugh, Shockey and a few coaching candidates (including Cowher) were scared off by how poorly Ross handled Sporano. He left Tony on the hook bending in the wind and tried to better deal him without releasing him. That was very unprofessional and even Cowher refused to talk to us because of it. That really gave our classy franchise a black eye. I hope and pray that they have short memories.
     
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  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully.
     
  12. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Granted, it turned a lot of people off. God; how would you like to work for a guy who does that??!?! Talk about treating Tony like crap!
     
  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    We never offered Shockey a contract. Harbaugh probably didn't want to move and apparently we never offered him a contract.
     
  14. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You are wasting your time, he clearly has no interest at all in the actual facts of the situation.
     
  15. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Feel free to put your fangs away and join the FRIENDLY discussion where people share their OPINIONS. I think our front office is very indifferent towards talent (like Tony Sparano)
     
  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's not an opinion, it's a fantasy. The Dolphins worked Shockey out, factually. The indicates that the aforementioned embarrassment did not make him unwilling to join the team. We've got Shockey outright saying that he would like to play for the Dolphins. Someone who pretty much undeniably at this point has inside access to Dolphins medical information stated the team had medical concerns with Shockey, a notoriously injury-prone player. We've got a beat writer saying that the Dolphins were not particularly interested in Shockey.

    You're certainly welcome to share your opinion, but here's that... you are sharing it. Your opinion is about as well founded on reality as mine is that Jeremy Shockey was actually killed by stampeding Kid Rock fans in 2005, and has been replaced by some failed professional wrestler and is right now running coverage drills in Football Valhalla with Sean Taylor.
     
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  17. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    All the FA want to be in Miami; Miami is well under the cap. Time to get paid whether you play or not ask Earnest Wilford.
     
  18. gamblerx

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    Release Calvin Johnson, we'll talk.
     
  19. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think Kevin Smith is damaged goods. Those knees...yikes
     
  20. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Do not want Kevin Smith. Why would we want a RB that has been severely damaged and has pretty much done squat in the NFL? Sign a SOLID NFL veteran, keep Ronnie as our #2, and DRAFT a rookie in the mid-later rounds.
     
  21. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    We need to set our sights a lot higher here. Even for a 2nd RB.
     
  22. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, he almost hit 1k yds as a rook, had 750 yds plus his second season but tore an ACL and this was the yr it normally takes a running back to come back from an ACL.

    To me, if he is there for the cost of 4 yr vet minimum contract then why wouldn't you take a shot on him?
     
  23. Hurricane

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    :glare:
     
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  24. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Man that was pretty scathing. Why don't we just kill him instead? You need to get a handle on your anger.

    For what it's worth I think the front office isn't that player friendly either based on the last few years of revolving OL'men and others people that we signed for two days and then cut. The TS thing really turned a lot of people off, it was classless. There was a news report about some coaches refusing to interview with the Dolphins for a few positions soon after that. I would imagine that the NFL is just like any other setting, you hear things around the water cooler about the best and worst places to coach and then people respond accordingly.

    I do wonder why we made our WR coach a QB coach though - wouldn't any real QB coaches return their call?
     
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  25. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Do you have a better option than mine?
     
  26. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Gosh, with the way 1/2 of last years coaching staff took off it doesn't seem to be a very nice place to work. Even Ricky Williams opened his mouth which was unheard of, but then again that's just more of my football Valhalla imagination.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/28/1601113/miami-dolphins-gm-apologizes-to.html
    "Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized Tuesday for using ``poor judgment'' during his line of questioning"

    http://redzonetalk.rantsports.com/20110107-miami-dolphins-are-a-team-in-turmoil/
    "Things were so bad in Miami by the end of the season that a player even refused to join the club when the Dolphins tried to sign him off another team’s practice squad."

    ......and there were a handful of OC's that refused to interview with us. I hope they have short memories and we can get the team back on track.
     
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  27. CaribPhin

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    What he's trying to say is that you said you don't want an injury prone RB even for a number two (Kevin Smith). Then you advocate an injury prone RB for a number two (Ronnie Brown).
     
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  28. Desides

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    The same reason Philadelphia made their offensive line coach their defensive coordinator.
     
  29. padre31

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    Waaah!

    I still support Ireland asking Bryant whether his mom had been a prostitute, he would not be doing his job if he had not done so.


    Oh please, they should at least get their rumor right, the Bears never called Horn up to the roster, they called up Herman Johnson, a player we scouted in 2009 or so.

    Have yet to see that one confirmed.
     
  30. DolfanJake

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    I think you are 100% on target here. I think this franchise is looked at as the "red-haired step child" of the NFL. You only have something to do with them because you are desperate. Wait until there is a Free Agency period, and we'll really see what is going on. Every day I think Jeff Ireland is more of a liability than a positive for our organization. This draft & free agency is his litmus test. Unless he hits a HR in both, he should be gone. His passes have all been used up. No more good graces.
     
  31. DolfanJake

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    I have come to the conclusion that some of the posters on this board like Cleopatra, they are Queens of denial. They are so blinded by their "so-called" loyalty they refuse to look at the situation this franchise is in, and put their heads in the sand. It does seem that on the surface at least, many people in the NFL don't have to high an opinion of our owner & front office. Ross did more damage by holding his "fake" press conference and by giving extentions. Everyone saw Tony's body language at that "roundtable". Nothing has changed since then. Its going to be really interesting to see what happens during the next free agency. If we can't sign anyone I think you'll see some of those head-in-the-sand people finally come around. Of course some will never belive it, even if you show them the evidence, they will still think they are Cleopatra on their barge drifting down the River Denial......
     
  32. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Uh…

    Detroit? Cleveland? Oakland? Seattle? Buffalo?

    Miami is far from stepchild status, let alone red-headed stepchild status. As long as South Beach exists as a geographical feature of the South Florida landscape, Miami will be a prime destination for rich athletes in their prime. Period.

    Signed, Karlos Dansby, Brandon Marshall, Randy Starks, Paul Soliai, Vernon Carey, Yeremiah Bell, Ricky “Fresh Out of Retirement” Williams, Chris “I cried when I was traded” Chambers, Jeremy “I want to be here, too bad Ireland doesn’t want me” Shockey, and many, many more.
     
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  33. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Shockey joined Carolina for two reasons, 1) more money was offered and 2) his old OC at the U (Chudzinsky) is here. That's why he didn't join the Fins, not because of Ross... I don't believe that Cowher was planning on coming back this year from the get go and may have listened to Ross for GPs, but he still claims Ross or anyone associated with Ross did NOT approached him. Harbaugh wanted desperately to stay 'home' on the West Coast. Ross certainly botched the coaching flirtations and dumped unceremoniously on Sparano, but those were not the reasons we lost those three guys...
     
  34. gandalfin

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    This. Thanks for setting the record straight On the Harbaugh opinion, this is just my opinion, but even though I lived in Miami for 40 years and am a totally die-hard Fins fan, I would choose the Bay area to live over Miami in a heartbeat. I suspect Harbaugh felt the same way.
     
  35. the 23rd

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    there's much more to it than just the Front Office & Ross.
    this is an old problem, many players, coaches & in general everyday people, don't seem to be comfortable living & working in South-Florida. ironically, the area may be better suited to a soccer franchise, than NFL football.
    I lived in the Miami/FTL area for 15 years & loved it, but I speak the languages & had lived in South America for ten years before moving to the area. even than, when I found out my wife & I were having a little girl I left the area for West Florida. Sometimes, its crossed my mind that Orlando would be a better home for the Dolphins. it would not surprise me if in a few years, that move ultimately became a reality. unfortunately, Miami is not a particularly good place to raise a family or sustain a NFL franchise in 2011

    it is what it is: our Miami Dolphins are not everybody's cup of tea.
     
  36. Disgustipate

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    Really? Not, you know, New Orleans after he left, saying things like when Sammy Knight was signed that if he could be a good player in New Orleans he could be twice the player here? Or Dave Wannstedt, after he retired?



    That's not actually all that uncommon by any means.

    This is absolutely untrue. The only person who know who turned the Dolphins down was in 2009, the Steelers LB Coach Keith Butler didn't want to be interviewed for the DC job. It was not the first interview he declined, and it's almost certainly because he's the heir apparent to Dick LeBeau.
     
  37. M1NDCRlME

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    I hope there is never a relocation. However, if the day were to come, I would love to have the team here in Orlando. I doubt the Bucs would let that happen without some kind a compensation. If the team were to move out of Florida then they will be dead to me.
     
  38. Disgustipate

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    It's pretty much the exact opposite of that? Virtually all of the Dolphins players live in Miami year round. The Dolphins generally have 100% voluntary workout attendance because of this. Not only that, but there's a whole hell of a lot of players from other teams that live here. I had a friend who worked at a local rim store where dozens of NFL players frequent, and it's funny because 75% of them weren't Dolphins players, they were guys who lived here and played elsewhere.
    The only times the Dolphins have really had this problem is John Tait, who is a Mormon and didn't like the area for a religious aspect.


    Orlando will never, ever get an NFL team unless maybe South Florida is destroyed in some sort of catastrophic event. The South Florida megalopolis is home to nearly 5 million people, Orange County has barely a million? And the NFL is looking to take away a franchise from Center/North Florida, not give it one?
     
  39. Coral Reefer

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    Absurd.......

    Athletes from many teams in many professional sports live in S. FL. regardless of whether they ever play for a S. FL. team.
    Yet you're trying to paint the area as a negative aspect of playing for the Dolphins?

    THe Dolphins have never been a franchise in danger of moving and never will be.
    The S. Florida market is actually a HUGE reason why the Phins franchise would never be moved.
     

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