No, you wouldn't make more money from those things. Phil Knight is in a completely different business than Stephen Ross. Look, I want those things you mention, but just look around at the stadiums that have been built the last few years. The main objective with their construction was to increase ticket prices.
stringer, the point is is to stop the insanity, and do something new and innovative while projecting the results of such out of the box thinking..The point is is to not do what others are doing, because there doing anything that is truly making as much money as this concept could generate.. You say you want this, but your not willing to do anything about it..make your voice heard, there is vulnerability there, Dee understands that the place we play in is a serious disadvantage from the pespective that we are talking about... also, you can accomplish both things with the right architects and proper mission.
Who is it insane to? Is it insane to Jerry Jones that he can charge $50 for a six pack of beer? $90 for a pizza? Do you really think he finds that insane? Our stadium is not a disadvantage when you consider that almost every new stadium is just as bad if not worse. The new Cowboys stadium isn't providing what you want, the new stadium in NY isn't either. Its not a matter of out of the box thinking. Its a matter of dollars. If anyone is serious about convincing Stephen Ross to build something, write a business plan with the expected revenue it would generate compared to the expected revenue a stadium with a 30% increase in ticket prices, $500k leasing rights to suites, and $60 pizzas.
I would say the only "new" stadium that lives up to your aspiration is Seattle DJ - and maybe Pitt. Every other stadium is just as lifeless. Indy, Dallas, New York, Detroit. Some of the more successful stadiums were actually renovations like Lambeau and Soldier Field. Be careful what you wish for. You want a new stadium, you just might get it.
your making this more difficult then it has to be...All that iam saying is if you were to build a new stadium and conjure up the identity that you are going to do it in the image of what made us famous and gave us culture, than you can have both, just make sure your structure is built with the idea of crowd noise, intimacy, and an energy source within its fabric. You can have your luxury suites, its not going to affect what it is iam trying to get at...There is a much deeper way to generate revenue from what iam talking about.. OB2...just let yourself imagine for 1 moment Stringer..The possibilities are endless. J
Ok Tex, if someone did it once {seattle}, and we currently imo, have the worst by far, than why continue down that road if we do go there.. why not change the game...have you ever thought about what kind of impact it could have on our community and team?....major impact... Once again, we can do both and make everyone happy, just as long as we our aware of these structural weaknesses relative to energy, crowd noise and impact in building a new one..,do not, for the love of zeuss DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN!!!!!!!
How much was a ticket in the original OB? Its a matter of marketing to a certain demographic. Most single people in their 20s can't afford a personal seat license. They can't afford to eat at a Morton's in the stadium before the game. Every time you build a more expensive stadium, you're pricing someone out of the market.
wth are you talking about...their, as in our execs and owners are talking about wanting a new stadium man...so if were gonna maybe try and do it one day, than lets have them do it the way were talking about here..
All I'm saying is that our ideal atmosphere will take a backseat to Stephen Ross'. And the two surely are not the same. Our atmosphere includes a lot of young people making noise and being rowdy. Stephen Ross' includes wealthy people spending money, to attend an event that they don't really even care about.
This. It is sad that our sport, with it's working class roots, is being taken away from the working class. Unfortunately the owners think it's a bottomless pit of income. The reason the Patriots stadium model is working right now is because they are winning, and it's the popular ticket up there, the in thing to do among those with the means to do so. The owners need to realize this model will not sustain itself across the league, and stop pricing the true fans (those that support even when losing) out of the game.
The best part of the new plan is to build more seats closer to the field. I would like to see how that it is integrated with the existing seating. I would imagine that they would need to rip out some of the existing rows in the lower deck. In any event, there should be no taxpayer contribution.
I'm pretty sure they'll have to rip them all out including the sky boxes and move them all forward. The absolute best thing they could do is move the entire upper and lower bowls forward...
There shouldn't be, its a privately owned facility. What if you need a new bedroom on your house ? Do you think the County or the City should pay for it ? I know as a taxpayer I wouldn't want to pay to increase the value of your house without something back in return. That is exactly what the Dolphins are asking - for us to put our tax dollars into their privately owned stadium, in return for vague promises of future Super Bowls. What if they do these improvements and the NFL still doesn't want to use our stadium ? Do the Dolphins then have to repay that ?
The only way it gets done is with some kind of help. I don't want it coming out of my pockets but if they make it a hotel tax, I'm down with that. They can also apply to get a loan from the NFL to pay for some of it upfront.
That is one gigantic renovation. You have to think about bolstering the foundation structurally. Not to mention moving concrete. Not an easy task. My guess is there is some twisted old steel inside that original pour.
WH had engineers come in and work out a plan to renovate the entire inside of the stadium. He did not want to pony up the dough then proceeded to spend a ton of money installing glass around the outside so the stadium resembled a boat. Stupidity of a billionaire. It's not actually hard to do but my way would decrease the amount of seats by about 10,000 or a little less. It's a lot of work but the solution is workable.
Well there ya go, purchase the team if he puts it up for sale and you can have dancing elephants at half time if you wish.
