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Dez Bryant Advisor "He's in a dark place in his life"

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Da 'Fins, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I do not think you should feel sorry for Dez Bryant. I do not think you should feel sorry for anyone.

    I do understand if you have an emotional reaction towards the situation. Most people do when it is about money. Most people have bigger emotional reactions to money than they do about sex or family.

    You are going to be disappointed when you are crying in your cereal with your $800K slickj101 necklace around your neck, wondering why didn't the sudden rush of money solve all of your problems.
     
  2. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    lol

    He acts like a stupid kid off the field and we paid much more for a guy that acts like a stupid kid on the field.

    Let me know when he gets into any real trouble and stops being a dominating play maker...

    And ask Deion if he's so worried about his own rep, why is he still butt buddies with a train wreck like Irvin.
     
  3. MarinePhinFan

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    I don't feel sorry for him. I think he's a dumbass.

    There are a couple of things about the NFL, some things that people don't consider. There is of course the whole "going from the ghetto", dirt poor" to "richer than Jesus"! status. Imagine if a kid is starving (and most of these guys are kids without any role models other than the idiots they see on TV) and then he sees 5 whole apple pies in front of him. Well, if no one tells him any better he's going to eat all of them in one sitting. And then puke. Add to the fact that most of these players aren't really bright and you have a train wreck about to happen. Seriously. Have you ever seen a Wonderlic Test example? Dude, if you don't score perfect or damn close you're ******ed. The test consists of things I learned in the 6th grade.

    Then, when you go from dirt to gold and then ALWAYS have someone right on your *** trying to take your job! That has to be stressful for anybody. It's like they finally make it only to find out that they can have it all taken away in a heart beat.

    So, we have poor, uneducated, stupid (in some cases), young, sometimes violent criminals/thiefs etc all of a sudden getting handed millions of dollars and then told they better watch out! There is a guy over there who trying to take it away from you. I can see why some of these guys lose it. Not saying I would, but I've had a different life.
     
  4. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    I used to agree with a majority of the posters here until I had to confront someone that struggled with mental illness and a general outlook of misery.. Nothing I did, no logic, money, adventure, vacations, material possessions or laughter cured this mindset.


    It is easy to sit back and judge someone who by all indications, endured a horrific childhood, with drug addicted parents and a mother that probably whored herself. Money doesn't erase the past, especially if the early seeds were rooted in dysfunction and no role models.. Unfortunantly, we are all tied to our early childhood development, and if you were raised in extreme circumstances, your internal wiring can be faulty and no amount of logic, medication or therapy can really re-wire it back.
     
  5. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    A lot of people didn't agree with me when I suggested the rookie hazing thing was a big deal and verified some of my character concerns. And most people forgot all about it when he started performing during the season. But refusing to merely carry practice equipment as a rookie really struck a nerve with me.
     
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  6. slickj101

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    I didn't have an emotional reaction to Dez's money. More of an allergic reaction to people who make excuses for bull****.

    Then again, if we didn't have that bull**** then how would therapists make a living?
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    You have an emotional reaction to your allergies? You should see a doctor about that.
     
  8. slickj101

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    Know any good therapists who can give me a reason for why I should be crying instead of being happy w/my life?
     
  9. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Oh yes, suicidal people are the product of bull*rap, people that talk to themelves or have chemical imbalances are full of it, and child abuse(physical and emotional) / incest doesn't exist in shockingly high numbers..

    Count your blessing. I sure do everyday.. But the fact that most of us had it easy or had personalities that were able to overcome issues that others couldn't, doesn't make us better or remove our ability to understand that some people just can't overcome their emotional handicaps.. Much easier to be ignorant about it and just assume that they should just get over it.
     
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  10. slickj101

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    Instead of just wallowing in it, yea I'd say the ladder is a better idea.

    lol And where the hell did all the incest and imbalance talk come from?
     
  11. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Actually, the fact that you are happy with your life is a very healthy and great thing :)


    The fact that you show no empathy towards people that are seemingly mentally unbalanced would be a good first discussion with your therapist :tongue2::tongue2:
     
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  12. MarinePhinFan

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    Sure it does. I'm better than my siblings. I'm stronger. There are the weak and the strong. My brother is in and out of prison, my sister is on her 2nd child from a 2nd guy, unmarried. Neither work. My parents are drugs addicts and losers. I came from ****. I made myself. I'm better than them. ;)
     
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  13. Bumrush

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    You talk as if people with emotional problems are the product of whining or bullcrap.. If you took a second to dive deeper than having an emotional reaction you would see that people with these types of problems normally have a history of abuse that involves those two.

    Nobody said you had to wallow in anything. Nobody is saying SlickJ should cry for Dez Bryant.. Yet your reaction shows a lot more anger than even attempting to understand the situation. We may all be wrong in our analysis of why Dez Bryant acts the way he does, but to deny that ones past should be ignored is pretty ignorant if you ask me.
     
  14. Bumrush

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    Bro, I agree.. My current GF had two drug addicted parents, has been talked down too and endured very tough times growing up, yet is a model citizen, has a great outlook, is positive and works harder than anyone I know without an ounce of complaining..

    On the other hand my Ex went through some really terrible things as a child and turned in to a complete self sabatoging whacko.. It can turn either way in life... The thing you have to understand is that some people just can't help it.. They were hurt so often and so early in life that they didn't develop healthy human emotions.. They are hopeless...
     
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  15. NaboCane

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    He'd be late for those too.
     
  16. Striking

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    Simpleton or ignorance I don't know enough about him to say. Obviously trying to buy happiness is not going to work and the debt will only add to any feelings of depression he might have. But its still his money to spend as foolishly as he wants. Drugs on the other hand cost other people their happiness, that's the difference to me and why I don't want those types on teams I root for.
     
  17. NaboCane

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    JS, if you really think that personal strife won't affect an athlete's performance on the field as long as his public problems have nothing to do with his sport, I have two words for you:

    Tiger.

    Woods.

    Absolutely nothing about Tiger's extramarital affairs nor the subsequent breakup of his marriage had to do with his golf game; yet his game went in the toilet and still resides there today.

    You can't separate the personal from the professional.
     
  18. slickj101

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    That word "seemingly" is great to use when there aren't any facts to support the idea, isn't it?

    For all we know, he's a perfectly sane individual who just enjoys acting like an ignorant child. There haven't been any real reports to contradict that yet have there?
     
  19. slickj101

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    Thats kind of a blanket statement in reference to weed, but that's a whole nother debate.
     
  20. slickj101

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    And that is where we'll always disagree.

    It's all about your outlook and what you want to make of your life. Seeing as you define that as a person, nobody should be able to take it from you as a grown adult.
     
  21. muscle979

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    He's right but this is a class and culture thing more than anything. There are more poor blacks and minorities that become rich athletes so we see it more with them. But if you take a white person from a poor and less than ideal upbringing and suddenly give them lots of money they will blow it in the same ways. When you come up in a poor culture the first thing you want to do with money is get things you never could have had before. You probably came from families that lived paycheck to paycheck for years so you don't know how to think any differently than that even when you can.
     
  22. MonstBlitz

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    Well said. I was always very against medication, therapists, all that. Wondered why people couldn't just get over it and be happy with their lives. Then one day I woke up with unexplained crippling anxiety. Hypochondria, depression, all this stuff just hit me like a ton of bricks. Not sure why. Luckily it passed, and I didn't end up medicating or seeing a therapist. But it sure made me realize what some people go through and that no matter how happy some people should be, there are reasons far deeper than any of us can imagine why they aren't.
     
  23. MonstBlitz

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    See just about every joe blow jerkoff who wins the lottery. :lol:
     
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  24. MarinePhinFan

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    lol...I agree 100%. Look at all the white people who win the lotter and end up more broke than before they won it. I wasn't trying to insinuate anything. This entire "jewelry" thing just reminded me of this Chris Rock bit...
     
  25. slickj101

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    The entire jewelery thing is one of the biggest things wrong in the world lol

    That mentality is ****in scary.
     
  26. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    First off let me say that yes, if he doesn't get himself together at least somewhat, things could certainly escalate to where he may not even be able to get on the field. It's not as though I see this as nothing to worry about or it's no big deal........ I just don't see it at the point where ppl should be giving up on the fact he might somehow be salvaged as a person and that great talent of his go to waste.


    As far as the comparison....... I don't see it.

    Tiger Woods was basically raised in a protective bubble with a a strong support system surrounding him.......really, what adversity has he faced prior to the sex scandal? Things have always come easy to him, as long as he put in the work.... the first time he faced a crisis, he was obviously not prepared and crumbled.

    Bryant wasn't raised in that protected bubble....... he was raised by strangers, sleeping from couch to couch. How big of a deal is it to be chastised for the childish things he's done, compared to him living with the fact his dad was a pimp and his mother a crack whore.....he lived through that and found himself being taken in the first round of the NFL draft.

    Deion Sanders is the most egotistical prick on the planet....... I have no delusions that he does what he does with college athletes for no other reason than to keep himself relevant and to continue to bask in the glory of the spotlight.

    The last thing Bryant needed was for Sanders to do what he did publicly.....if he really cared, he'd have made more of an effort to mentor the kid. Not add to the problem....

    Yes he needs help......... but he's yet to do anything as bad, on or off the field as we have seen from the guy we gave a 40 million dollar contract to.
     
  27. ToddsPhins

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    I wouldn't necessarily quantify him as a rotten egg yet. IMO how he responds and rebounds from this (if at all) will determine who this kid truly is. When you drop a lump of cash on a young guy's lap who endured what he did growing up, there's bound to be some sort of fall out.

    <This isn't meant to be a racist comment>---- IMO some of the black culture is to blame for this. Young kids look up to these rich, glorified athletes and want to be like them. An image is created where you're almost nobody if you don't have tons of bling etc. It can put a lot of pressure on newcomers to look and act a certain way. I admire Allen Iverson's reformed approach and wish more pro athletes would follow in his footsteps.

    One thing to like is the kid has some serious passion for the game, and it shows on the field. If he can learn how to channel that passion into something positive and meaningful, he could be alright.
     
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