Henne Stats Under Pressure

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  1. Southbeach

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    Here's what Henne has done with and without pressure.


    No Pressure- 253-373, 2774 yds, 67.8%, 11 TD's, 13 picks, 0 sacks


    Pressure- 49-118, 524 yds, 41.5%, 4 TD's, 5 picks, 30 sacks.


    Blitz- 114-179,1454 yds, 63.7%, 7 TD's, 6 picks, 19 sacks


    Under pressure and being blitzed are separated as a blitz does not always result in pressure.


    I did take a look at a number of other QB's pressure stats and, save a few, Henne is right there with his completion percentage, avg yards, and TD/Int under pressure.


    He is also right there vs the blitz vs most QB's, although TD/Ints could be a bit better. Guess he is better without thinking.


    His biggest problem is TD/Ints when there is no pressure. Blame whoever ya like (plenty to go around) but, this has to be fixed, and it has to be fixed this year, or we need to move on.
     
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  2. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Better without thinking? Thats doesn't sound good. But does that translate into his natural ability is a good thing then.

    The Int% has to be improved.
     
  3. Southbeach

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    IMO, when Henne does not have to think about his head being POUNDED with NOT MAKING A MISTAKE, he is a much better QB.
     
  4. Ozzy

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    It translates into getting a running game going along with a solid offensive line. That takes pressure off of any and every Qb.

    Whether we like Henne or not, this is not arguable imo....
     
  5. vt_dolfan

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    I agree with what Ozz says.....

    A running game would take a ton of pressure off of Henne.

    Could it be that when he isnt under pressure....thats when he actually thinks TO MUCH....I think its a perfect reflection of....the preaching of being to careful, not turning the ball over. Henne just needs someone to tell him..."Kid...you got a golden arm...use it" The thing about Marino....is that he had such confidence if he turned the ball over with an INT...he could get it back with a TD on the next drive.
     
  6. jdang307

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    Sometimes I wish we had a QB that could take the pressure off the running game. Know what I'm saying?
     
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  7. CaribPhin

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    There's no such thing.
     
  8. pennphinfan

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    so what this is saying is that Henne's robotic shell is NOT made from Unobtainium, yes?
     
  9. ToddsPhins

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    You kinda need an entire offense set up for that to happen. It's hard for a QB to take 1 TE, 2 healthy receivers, & poor blocking and make that happen. Know what I'm saying. lol.

    Even Peyton couldn't make it happen during a 5 game stretch. So I guess now Manning sucks, too, when he has little support around him? :lol:

    What you're asking is like trying to take a monster truck (what Sparano wanted our offense to be) and all of a sudden turning it into an airplane. It's pretty hard to take something that was designed & intended to run over things and then ask it to fly over them instead.
     
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  10. Ozzy

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    Me too but there is no way to do that without a solid offensive line.
     
  11. djphinfan

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    shouldn't we count Phantom pressure as well, Henne's happy feet and hectic tempo without pressure is one of my biggest concerns....Dude does not look comfortable in the pocket..I would be nervous to if I knew I couldn't run from the bullies..
     
  12. vt_dolfan

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    I just wish we had a QB who had enough confidence in himself to believe he can take the team on his shoulders.....and will them into the endzone. I think Henne tried to hard to do everything Sparano, Lee, and Pennington told him to do. He bought into the care taker QB job.....

    I almost think he believes its ok just to be an average QB.

    I want a kid with the metality it seems Mallet has. He believes hes a stud...and your not gonna convince him different. Might he be an *** hat? Maybe....but we need a QB with Balls and Swagger
     
  13. vt_dolfan

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    Why...Dan knew he couldnt run from them. He just knew he had the arm to make it hurt when you blitzed him...or made a mistake. He believed in that right arm. Henne doesnt.
     
  14. Ozzy

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    Marino also had one of the swiftest one step slides in the NFL. Many a defender would get up looking at their arms like there was a hole in them or something
     
  15. jdang307

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    Just like you need an entire offense to have a good running game. My point is, if the entire offense is set up for a good passing game, its all for naught if you have a QB that is crap. A QB that people fear, Brady, manning, Rivers Rodgers, then the defensive backfield might have to give pause before committing fully to the run. I'm not saying a QB can make a defense fearful all by his lonesome. But you can have all the greatest parts if your qb is lacking, it doesn't matter much.

    Henne doesn't strike fear into anyone. Sure his under pressure numbers are "in line" which doesn't mean much. His regular numbers suck. so that just means defense don't feel the need to have to pressure Henne as much as they would a Peyton, a Brady.
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That is a good point. I have seen Henne get sacked without pressure. Where there is a perfect pocket and Henne runs or slides into the defensive end. I do not think he panics or gets happy feet, he is just horrible at buying extra time in the pocket.
     
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  17. texanphinatic

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    Agreed, his pocket awareness is rather iffy.
     
  18. Jaj

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    Henne's best formation is when he runs out of that spread offense. His best formation if anything would perhaps even be a K-Gun reminiscent of the Bills in the early 90s. Give him a receiving back that can catch his wild errant short passes, and add perhaps a little more speed from one of the WR spots and he's actually a pretty good quarterback. Ask him to read the field with a two WR set, two blocking TEs, and a slow *** RB in play action formation and well you're ****ed.
     
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  19. CitizenSnips

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    This offense had no running game all season and generally only ran 2-3 wrs/te's out on passing routes. Meaning the opposing defense could cover our entire passing offense with just their secondary, the lb's who dropped into coverage just made it even harder.

    This doesn't save Henne from every poor decision cause he made too many, but in the end i just dont believe he had a chance. Everyone was always covered and why wouldnt they be? What in the our offense would ever confuse the opposing defense? Play action on 3rd down. two wr sets. A non-threat at te. no running game.

    the only thing that ever works is Marshall beasting it or Bess' fantastic route running gets him open. thats IT.

    God we're a mess.
     
  20. adamprez2003

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    I think henne's biggest problem last year was facing zone coverage. He had no feel as to how to attack it, when to be safe and when to get aggressive. Not to be surprised since he's still learning. I think that will be the key for whether he succeeds or not, can he beat zone.
     
  21. the 23rd

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    The way I'm going to approach this season
    is I'm going to pretend I never saw the bum play before...
    I'm going to totally discount the fact that he is a bust,
    however, I am unwilling to give him the benefit of the doubt,
    only because there can be no doubt about his lack of ability.
    Instead, I bequeath to him a veil of anonymity to hide behind
    until he's ready to re-event himself & make his run in 2011.
    May the new Chad Henne emerge to lead us to the SuperBowl
    This is my approach to the up-coming season


    now I ask you: what are the chances?
     
  22. RGF

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    I honestly think you know better. But, what the hell ,no harm in dreaming i guess.
     

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